Well Disney erased the old EU simply to be able to sell the same crap twice. No point of leaving anything and therefore not being able to sell it again.
I just dropped by to throw in some facts. Films cannot be objectively bad or good as there is no objective measure for that. And yes, opinion cannot be wrong or right. And the person who came up with the dumb example of moon landing dispute should better educate himself on a difference between an opinion and a claim.
EDIT: and imperial scum happens to be the Offical even more ignorant bully of TFA fans.
Point me to some clear evidence of this. I have never bullied anyone for liking TFA. I simply express my opinion of TFA.
for all the love and passion put into this film it’s such a shame the end product was so mediocre and forgettable!
For such a forgettable movie, you sure have no problem remembering each and every single flaw (real, imagined, or exaggerated) that comes to mind.
Well it seems it was unforgettably bad.
Alanis…Oh yes the action orientated sequel to the scary and superior Alani .
What’s your opinion on Alani3?
This joke has been forbidden because Frink cannot get it.
Am I supposed to laugh now?
Don’t you have your brain?
13 replies to a thread like this. Don’t you people have something better to do?
PUNCH A MILLENNIAL
gladly, and I am one
Then punch yourself.
I think he wanted to be the main creative director and have someone else to do the actor directing (like in ESB) but simply didn’t want things to go as slow as during ESB principal photography. So he was there to make sure things ran on schedule. However, if you come up with the story, characters and ideas and being on the set while someone else is directing the scenes you wrote, you most likely won’t be able to resist interfering.
I hope you enjoy(ed) my take on Captain (now promoted to General) Phasma!
Ah, just a word on that: Promoting her from captain to general is problematic.
Going off of appearances, Phasma’s an army officer, not a naval one. In the American army, at least, the rank of captain is a relatively low one; it’s one step above 1st lieutenant, four steps behind brigadier general, the lowest ranking general. Were she to receive a promotion, the rank of major or – if you want her to skip a grade – lieutenant colonel would be a more reasonable choice.
On the other hand, if she is a naval officer, then she can’t be a general since there are no generals in the navy. She would be an admiral.
Star Wars isn’t real life. The First Order ranking system can be completely different, and besides, the Supreme Leader (pretty sure they don’t have Supreme Leaders in the America army) specifically promotes Phasma to General because Hux has failed and he thinks she can succeed at bringing Finn to the dark side (had a vision or something like the ones the Emperor, Vader, and Luke used to have in the original trilogy).
That is just a very bad excuse. Why take real life rank names in the first place if you don’t intend to make it reasonable. Audience isn’t stupid and such things get annoying. The filmmakers are just lazy and ignorant and just randomly throw in some “cool sounding” ranks. Why not make a minimal research and make her colonel in the first place and now there would be no problem.
And Supreme Leader isn’t a military rank. It seems like state position equivalent to Führer.
I don’t remember hearing about a whole lot of little girls interested in Ripley from Alien.
Hearing little kids being interested in a character really isn’t much of a measure. Otherwise even Jar Jar would be a great character.
Ripley was not the focal point of Alien until the last couple reels though.
Well one way or another she was the film’s lead.
SilverWook said:
She was just part of the Nostromo crew. Her sticking to biohazard protocols by not allowing Kane back into the ship, (before Ash circumvented her) even made her seem like an unsympathetic character at first.
That concept is called interesting character (character development). Something that is missing in TFA.
I don’t see how would having a female lead be more inclusive than having a male lead.
This is so dumb it’s not even worth explaining to you.
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My young daughters love Star Wars and Rey has a lot to do with it.
It is not dumb. You just don’t get it, despite being very simple.
If you have a female lead then young females will be able to associate/relate more. If you have a male lead then young males will be able to associate/relate more. Either way you “include” one more than the other.
The point of the thread is that strong female leads have been few and far between, and therefore having one opens up the universe to more people, making it more inclusive.
If you want to pretend that you don’t understand the thread, that’s on you.
Strong female leads have been a staple of Science Fiction/Fantasy for the past 40 years. It might be different in other genres, but not here. It gets me when people say that Rey is something amazing and new.
While this isn’t untrue, sci-fi wasn’t exactly a mainstream genre up until recently because it wasn’t cool to be into those things, even for boys. It’s easy for us to talk about all our favourite sci-fi ladies from back in the day, but shows like BSG, Dr. Who, and Buck Rogers weren’t exactly “cool” (yeah yeah, cool to nerds like us, I know; but I mean to the general public) shows; sure they existed and laid the groundwork for what we have today, but they weren’t exactly popular, and especially not among females. And I’m sure those ladies had plenty of damsel-in-distress, helpless-without-a-man moments. =P
Today, every other show has some sci-fi element, and with things like Star Wars, we actually have cool sci-fi female characters who are just cool characters who happen to be female. Like I said before, that’s what surprised me most about Rey: she wasn’t just a hollow, flag-waving, “LOOK I’M A COOL GIRL but I still need to be rescued by a dude”, girl-power female object character trope. She was just a good character and her being female wasn’t a central aspect or reason of that. That’s what I see as real progress.
For example, Alien (and sequels) was “cool” from the day one even for general public. There are many older people I know who considered Star Wars too nerdy but openly liked Alien. And we all know that Rey is nothing compared to Ripley when it comes to female leads. So yeah, it is like lovelikewinter said, this concept is 40 years old and was already well established.
I don’t see how would having a female lead be more inclusive than having a male lead.
This is so dumb it’s not even worth explaining to you.
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My young daughters love Star Wars and Rey has a lot to do with it.
It is not dumb. You just don’t get it, despite being very simple.
If you have a female lead then young females will be able to associate/relate more. If you have a male lead then young males will be able to associate/relate more. Either way you “include” one more than the other.
The point of the thread is that strong female leads have been few and far between, and therefore having one opens up the universe to more people, making it more inclusive.
If you want to pretend that you don’t understand the thread, that’s on you.
As I said in my previous reply, it makes the whole franchise generally more inclusive/balanced. However, according to the thread title, this is about new generation of fans. Therefore my argument was with respect to them and consequently within the scope of TFA/ST.
Or in other words, I stand correct. 😛
I don’t see how would having a female lead be more inclusive than having a male lead.
This is so dumb it’s not even worth explaining to you.
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My young daughters love Star Wars and Rey has a lot to do with it.
It is not dumb. You just don’t get it, despite being very simple.
If you have a female lead then young females will be able to associate/relate more. If you have a male lead then young males will be able to associate/relate more. Either way you “include” one more than the other.
Even with Rey, we still have Finn and Poe. We still have more male characters at the center then female characters. And Rey being a girl didn’t stop the young boy sitting next to me in the theater from loving every second of the movie, but on the other hand I can get why girls might not have cared much for the original Star Wars considering Leia was basically the only female in the entire movie and she didn’t get all that much screen time. Let’s face it, the original Star Wars was very clearly designed exclusively for boys, but the new Star Wars can have strong appeal to both sexes. That’s what makes it more inclusive.
Well I could certainly agree if compared to OT. But that wasn’t the point since OT has completely different conditions compared to TFA. I pointed out that having a female lead is no more inclusive than having a male lead, under the same conditions (i.e. talking about TFA specifically here). By that I mean either Rey being a female and Poe/Finn being male or Rey being a male and Poe/Finn being female.
I don’t see how would having a female lead be more inclusive than having a male lead.
This is so dumb it’s not even worth explaining to you.
…
My young daughters love Star Wars and Rey has a lot to do with it.
It is not dumb. You just don’t get it, despite being very simple.
If you have a female lead then young females will be able to associate/relate more. If you have a male lead then young males will be able to associate/relate more. Either way you “include” one more than the other.
I don’t see how would having a female lead be more inclusive than having a male lead. And PT generated as much of fans as ST does now. And in the end, to me, they are equally bad.
I also wouldn’t agree that film was carried by Daisy. In my opinion film was pretty much carried by Ford (even with his average performance). Not that there was much of a film anyway.
the only boobs you’d ever be handling are probably from a video game.
Really?! But what about anime?
LOL at video games being included in canon.
Play Kotor and you’ll see why but I don’t think it possible for you to see outside the dogmatic, narrow minded view of only watching the films.
Let’s be realistic here. You cannot expect someone who cannot handle a pair of boobs to be able to handle that kind of video game.
LOL at video games being included in canon.
We get it that video games are too sophisticated for you. But you should know that in this case you are the laughing matter and not the medium you cannot handle. Or in other words, you are in no position to look down on things that are above you.
Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic (I guess KOTOR 2 can be considered as well with ignoring several things)
Star Wars: The Old Republic (original game only)
Original Trilogy
Star Wars: Dark Forces
Star Wars Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight
Star Wars Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
This is not even a discussion. It is basically me correcting your misconceptions.
I don’t care about what you think you are doing, I care about facts.
That is a contradiction. I only think about facts.
That’s a lie. You thought about a contradiction when posting this.
Well technically contradiction was a fact in this case.
This is not even a discussion. It is basically me correcting your misconceptions.
I don’t care about what you think you are doing, I care about facts.
That is a contradiction. I only think about facts.
This is not even a discussion. It is basically me correcting your misconceptions.
The movies where they show people taking a shit are by far the best movies. Although the movies where they show people eating a cracker are pretty good too.
What a stupid logic. It is not that showing normal things makes film good. It is simply that there is nothing wrong with showing them in the first place. It is normal.