DominicCobb said:
imperialscum said:
DominicCobb said:
imperialscum said:
DominicCobb said:
imperialscum said:
adywan said:
The Dark Empire said:
I am not looking forward to see shoretroopers, woodtroopers, deathtroopers, watertroopers, sandtroopers or hover tank troopers and what so ever is about to come.
Then you won’t like Episode 4 because they have Sandtroopers 😉
Technically sandtroopers they were just stormtroopers with some extra gear, which is how it should be in most cases. Since stormtroopers were supposed to be elite units, I am still waiting to see regular army. It would be much better instead of some new dumb ideas.
In the OT we get introduced to Snowtroopers and Scout troopers after ep4. So, did you have a problem with those, or is this just because they are something new? Because, if you didn’t have a problem with the introduction of those, then you are being a bit of a hypocrite.
I had no problem with snowtroopers because the change of armour was justified by the extreme conditions. I had no problem with scouttroopers because they were an entirely different type of unit (i.e. not infantry). I have problem with beachtroopers (or whatever) because it doesn’t make sense for them to change armour just because they go to a beach. It is not an extreme condition like frozen Hoth. If stormtroopers did not require to change armour when they went to a very hot place like Tatooine, I don’t see the reason for them to change it when they go to a beach (unless when they go for R&R, but then they need a swimsuit, not an armour).
Interesting.
Those are navy seals in the diving gear coming from the dive. The comparison you are trying to make is stupid.
Don’t embarrass yourself.
The obvious point is that military forces utilize a variety of different combat gear, including some that are water resistant. This is one example. Don’t know why the Empire would do any different. Shore troopers need armor that isn’t going to waterlog them.
Like I said, navy seals use diving gear as a temporary solution for a very specific purpose (diving). They would drop it after the dive if ground combat was ahead. Shoretrooper armour doesn’t seems like a temporary solution just for diving. It is pretty much a standard outfit they would wear on the ground.
The shore trooper armor is for both environments.
At some point though we have to realize this is all speculation because we haven’t seen the film. But it seems ridiculous to say there’s no possible way to justify the shore trooper when we haven’t seen it in context.
Regardless, I don’t see how one could defend the scout trooper and not the shore. If the scout isn’t general infantry then why is the shore?
Scout trooper uniform is specific for riding the speeders (very different role from infantry), hence they wear pants and their helmet seems to be designed to block side view in order for them to be focused in the front during the high speed manoeuvring. Compared to storm trooper, it makes perfect sense.
On the other hand, shore trooper has exactly the same role as storm trooper (infantry). In addition, none of the adjustments to their outfit make sense or give them any advantage over storm trooper. We see storm troopers in the sand on Tatooine (they can operate on shore). We see them in outer space (they can easily operate under water).
Let’s stop kidding ourselves. They made it simply because they wanted to make some new crap for the marketing purpose (despite being logically redundant). We came to the same sad observation that I already made some time ago: in TFA where they should have come up with new stuff to satisfy the basic logic of 30 years of development, they rehashed stuff like x-wing vs TIE, and in R1 where they should have stuck to what we see in OT, they came up with redundant new stuff.
