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jarbear said:
Just having the whispers doesn’t really “reveal” or overtly hint at anything. Why? This is a Dark side place, we as the audience know that! So having those whispers isn’t really pointing “Hey, we are hinting something, can’t you tell?!”

Agreed.

poppasketti said:
The way I looked at it with what I have currently is that the hood could be Palpatine himself or Rey in a Palpatine cloak (as she appears in TROS), and the idea is just to tease the imagery.

Although it would be less subtle, you could illustrate that by having the hood quickly morph from “Evil Rey” to normal Rey when Palpatines silhouette approaches.

Any software recommendations for removing timecodes?

For the cave scene what do you think of starting the silhouettes with the hooded figure than the parents and finally to Rey? I think it makes more sense lineage wise.

As for Palpatine’s contact, I think you can do without the laugh at the end personally.
In option C I like how you cut straight to Rey after Palpatine’s contact with echoes of his voice still there, it makes for good foreshadowing. You can still play with the dialogue a little though, something like “You are fulfilling your destiny…find me.” or “your journey nears it’s end…come to me” would make the scene linger a little and give it a sense of inevitability.

Really great stuff, I’m impressed with how fast you’re pumping these out!

OutboundFlight said:

So many missed opportunities.

So many “what ifs”.

Anakin Starkiller said:

In terms of making it a truly different planet, you could add unique plantlife or other structures in the background or recolor the sky using EbSynth. A green sky would be interesting. Especially against purple sand. However, I feel like the sand would be an absolute nightmare to recolor. At most, you could maybe tweak the color balance slightly, but that’s it.

Oh and I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: make Ilum (Starkiller Base) a snowy volcano. It’s an idea that appeared in concept art and would help resolve the issue of the fissure that splits Rey and Kylo once you remove the “destroy the superweapon” part of the film. Just add lava flowing to some of the wide shots and voila!

Yeah the Art of TFA is very inspiring, pitty they didn’t incorporate a lot of the unique stuff in there. As for Jakku I think sprinkling crashed Star destroyers/Mon Calla cruisers etc wherever possible would give it a look that is more distinct and evocative.

4throck said:

Yes, a physical fight. They fight somewhere (some planet, doesn’t matter where) as a flashback, just like the flashbacks to Luke’s Jedi temple destruction.
We don’t see the end of the fight, but understand that it was inconclusive, and the reason why Luke retired to his island.

Interesting but very ambitious, any idea on how to go about it?

4throck said:

• Use Luke’s force projection as a real fight between them after Luke’s temple is destroyed

Do you mean making him a physical presence on crait ?

The colour correction is great just the lightsabers are a little washed out.

And a few cameos by our little green friend.
sigh

The republic was established a 1000 years before TPM.
“There hasn’t been a full-scale war since the formation of the Republic”-AOTC
This new series of movies starts 400 years before TPM

Where is the “war” in this Star War?

PS: pardon my pessimism.

Problem is, In Canon the Republic was established after the destruction of the Sith one thousand years before TPM.

“I will not let this Republic that had stood for a thousand years be split in two”
“The sith have been extinct for a millennia”

I really don’t want to get my hopes up but I can’t help it.

Does this site have any kind of reputation?

Isn’t that a time of peace? I wish they tackled The Old Republic.

poppasketti said:

Ok, here’s a pass of a less subtle hood appearance as the two shadows merge.
https://vimeo.com/382919336
pw: fanedit

I used a shot from ROTJ to get the motion, but I wonder if this is a little too explicit. To me, it’s obviously Palpatine, and I wonder if I should dial it back.

Really like it, just a little smoothing out and you’re good to go.

Palpatine is still integral to Rey’s past whether she is his grandkid or not, the point of the hooded figure is to at least imply a connection.

RogueLeader said:

I could picture something added in the shot where the saber flies toward Rey and she grabs it, and Snoke’s torso falling over. Maybe when his upper body tumbles over, a whiff of that blue smoke/flame could waft up and then disappear. I think the throne is out of focus during that moment, so it would still be subtle. I guess the idea is that a part of Palpatine’s essence was inside Snoke, controlling him.

This.

poppasketti said:
The hood is very subtle right now, it was kind of a quick and dirty effort. I do wonder how explicit we want to make this though. The scene is about Rey’s internal struggle— her empty search for meaning- and if we call too much attention to the hood, I worry it will give it away and we’ll be thinking about Palpatine instead of Rey’s increasing isolation.

I agree that it should not be the center of attention, at the same time It wouldn’t register to the audience that its palpatine until the radio reveal at the end so I don’t see a problem in making it a little more distinct.

MasterSolo said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slsj4YeYaYQ I like this video someone made of Palpatine’s broadcast. Could you make a more polished, HD, widescreen version of it?

This is great, it instantly sets up the plot while world building at the same time.

Palpatine’s motivations towards Rey change 3 times in the film.
-Wants Rey dead at the start of the film.

-tells Rey that he never wanted her dead and that he wants her to take the throne.

-Wants to drain her life force thus killing her…

poppasketti said:

And here’s a first pass of the cave Sith whispers with a first pass effort for a subtle hood moment as the two shadows merge into one.
https://vimeo.com/382695905
PW: fanedit

The whispers are perfect! really liked that sinister vibe, I think there should be more emphasis on the hood though just before Rey’s face is revealed, what do you think of the idea of adding palpatine essense leaving snokes body while his eyes suddenly turn yellow just as Kyo cuts him in half? I think it would give the impression that palpatine was behind Snoke all along and was actually goading Kylo into killing him (Snoke) thus completing his training and finally becoming worthy of the Final Order.

I think it’s reasonable to at least hope for a good amount of deleted scenes

Dominic Monaghan hopes to see a Rise Of Skywalker “Directors Cut”.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-dominic-monaghan-wants-rise-skywalker-director-s-cut-1266205

Author of TROS novelization Rae Carson hints that the final cut of the film would be at least 3 hours long if it had included everything in the book:

https://mobile.twitter.com/raecarson/status/1212810807009873926

For me these recent comments by the editor of TROS highlight the underlying problem with the philosophy behind this film:

As for the negative critical reception of “The Rise of Skywalker,” Brandon said, “In a time when the whole world is polarized, it should not be a film that is polarizing.Basically, the message of the film is, ‘Hey you know what? You can be bad and good can come into your life. And maybe if you’re open-minded to it, extraordinary things can change your mind. And you have to believe there’s always hope.’”

One of the biggest complaints thrown at “Rise of Skywalker” is that the movie is pure fan service, which is not a claim Brandon will try to fight. “Look, sure, it’s fan service,” the editor said, “[but] if you didn’t service the fans, it would be, ‘Oh, he didn’t go along with the history of ‘Star Wars’ and what it all means.’”