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In general, Disney’s content lacks vision and it lacks conviction. Slow down, stop announcing projects cause it’s 50/50 they get made, and spend more money on writers.

If that Rey movie has something to it, go all out and make it Episode X. Don’t churn out another side project, make something with ambition.
Stop beating around the bush and make a wonderful Luke Skywalker series too. He is THE Star Wars protagonist and there are decades of adventures to mine.

If the Disney+ shows must continue at this volume, perhaps retool the old ‘Star Wars Story’ format and have people direct 90 minute TV-movies that function as pilots first. That way Disney can still keep the conveyor belt running, potentially take a few more creative risks on projects but also not commit 6-8 hours to a bad pitch.

Starkiller Base is my biggest gripe with TFA. To hear it may have been patched in late in the game is pretty disappointing ha

It’s mildly infuriating to see the grifters continue to poison the well with their bizarre narratives when the problem is always just the quality of the product.

I wish this film luck. I’d like to see Rey redeemed after TROS.

It’s a recurring, fatal flaw throughout the trilogy. It’s clear what Lucas is intending to do, but he botches it so badly in the details that everyone looks stupid or accidentially terrible in every situation.

The PT functions better as a trilogy, but each piece sucks. I like TFA and TLJ well enough, they are better than the prequels, but TROS is shoddy conclusion so the ST sucks as a trilogy too. Tough choice.

I’m gonna wait and see on this one. I just can’t count on a D+ series to wrap up nicely. It’s the show I had most hope for since that big annoucement, so I’m rooting for it.

adywan said:

Sadly, the dark side of the fandom is ripping it apart. The usual " Woke" bullshit comments are everywhere. Slating the show because of its female lead, the fact they mentioned " two mothers" and other crap. If it’s not white male lead they don’t class it as Star Wars. Wankers. I’m so fed up hearing how Star Wars is dead, just because it doesn’t follow their narrow minded bullshit. No one is allowed to just enjoy it any more without all their vitriol. I’ve seen so many commenting on how they refuse to watch it but will review bomb it wherever possible. Then attacking fans who dare to say they like anything “Disney” Star Wars.

Can I just say thank you for this. Traversing the internet, it seems impossible to avoid contact with that whole hateful eco-system and it is genuinely depressing. Just seeing someone else talk about it gave me a little sigh of relief.

Good questions, for another time.

I like 7 & 8 more than the prequels. 9 might be the worst of all though, just for how incredibly cowardly it is.

Mocata said:

I would imagine they’re going to ignore this whole idea and try another soft reboot. If it ever gets to production.

Probably for the best. Considering how divisive and bizarre a lot of the choices have been, another story with Rey will go down easier with a clean slate. Ridley has charm and can deliver in the role. I like Rey, enough to wish Episode 9 never happened to her. Hopefully she will be gifted better material this time*.

(*if this film actually crosses the finish line, which you cannot count on)

Cutting to Jimmy Smits with a “well, fuck” expression during the Alderaan explosion sounds so ridiculous I wish it had been in a Special Edition.

jmarso1 said:

I guess if I had my druthers, I’d do one of the following:

1. Recast the lead characters and film Zahn’s trilogy as the ST. (Sebastian Stan as Luke, Millie Bobbie Brown as Leia,

That’s like a 22 year age-gap between the Twins. That would be weird as hell.

DZ-330 said:

Surprise, surprise…

Upcoming Rey ‘Star Wars’ Movie Delayed Indefinitely
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/1/15/io4tuslm6h62bptffpsahtp9b356rz

Never heard of this source before

This is awesome. Takes me back to an innocent time haha.

[Spartacus01 said:]Also, the chronological order is the order George Lucas told us to watch the movies, and there is a reason for that.

George Lucas would say that; but the PT (as with most prequels) are informed by the films that came first. They communicate with the audience based on things they already know, beyond the obvious twists from the OT that are spoiled. I get why people watch them chronologically but dear lord I would never reccommend it. With all due respect to Lucas, he doesn’t even want us watching the films that made him and the series.

As I haven’t done it apparently, I shall jump on the pile too

The ones I like:

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Star Wars
3. Return of the Jedi
4. The Last Jedi
5. The Force Awakens

The rest:

6. Rogue One
7. Solo (maybe? I don’t really remember it)
8. The Phantom Menace
9. Revenge of the Sith
10. Attack of the Clones
11. Rise of Skywalker

Some great criticism presented in mostly funny ways. They’ve aged poorly in places but still hold up as solid video essays beyond the extreme character. RLM have really built a solid brand in the years since. I enjoy their reviews and Best Of The Worst series.

Probably paved the way for a lot of youtubers and long form video content. At the same time I think Plinkett inspired a bunch of dreadful imposters who do the act without the self-awareness. That is unfortunate.

Most impressive. That Vader/Ben duel shot is insane.

With Ahsoka’s nod to the Mortis gods, I was thinking about that place, and how cool a location it was for the final battle in that “Duel of the Fates” script. It’s one of many things I wish weren’t dropped in the process of making Episode 9. I had a brain wave though about incorporating the Father/Son/Daughter mythology into the script that could have made for an interesting resolution, as well as addressing some common complaints about the ST.

Instead of dragging Palpatine’s corpse back, use Anakin as the final ‘boss’. The confrontation on Mortis ends with Anakin Skywalker appearing to Rey and Kylo. Anakin has become the ‘Father’, intent on bringing balance to the force, and to achieve this he needs a Son (Kylo) and a Daughter (Rey). Both have been ‘destined’ to fulfill these positions and have felt the weight of external forces pulling them throughout their lives. Rey defies prophecy, choosing to leave and help the galaxy directly rather than watch from a distance.

As a visual spectacle that duel is still good fun for me. After a few watches, the actual ‘sword fighting’ felt apart, and that section of amped up Obi-Wan vs Maul got shorter and shorter ha.

Of all the revisionist takes of the PT that came up after Disney started crapping the bed, the way the twirly glow stick fights have been elevated kind of baffled me.

The Acolyte has long been my low-key most anticipated SW project. Headland is a more interesting hire than those out of the Mandalorian factory; and likewise the time period is more interesting than ‘right next to the OT’

… granted. Expectations are still low, but Andor was solid stuff so these can work out occassionally.

G&G-Fan said:

Not even the worst of TCW did the same irreversible damage to Star Wars that the prequels and Rise of Skywalker did.

Yeah probably wouldn’t argue with that. TCW doesn’t do much to alter anything significant, and is basically entirely supplementary. The lazy cowardice of TROS’s story ripples back through everything unfortunately.

TCW Anakin is great at points, when he got to be a kind of ruthlessly heroic character. He wouldn’t hesitate when a friend was in danger, which was an interesting way to foreshadow his eventual turn.

It seems pretty fair to me that Lucas doesn’t get much credit for ‘saving’ Anakin though. It would only be balancing out the ruining he did already. I’d have much preferred to just have a decent Anakin in the films, and not scattered throughout 7 seasons of a cartoon spin-off. TCW is fairly overrated by the fanbase too. The good stuff is remembered fondly, but there was LOADS of average to outright bad material too. It’s a worse hit rate than the movies.

It’s obvious that the TLJ audience score on RT was review bombed. You only have to look as far as other user voted scores to see that. It currently sits at 6.9 on IMDB.

I don’t understand the rejection of critics’ opinions in recent years. As bad as some can be, I’d still generally take the word of that group over a group of randoms. Even if the professional pool has been diluted, I don’t see how an audience score consisting entirely of less informed reviewers is a better option. For Rotten Tomatoes specifically, its flaws are obvious as long as you understand how the % is generated, but as a guide of general critic approval - the odds for finding something enjoyable - it functions just fine to me.

On Topic: Despite not enjoying TROS, I like Rey and Ridley’s performance as the character. I’m all for her returning. I hope she gets something good to do. If you’re not happy about it, there’s plenty of Star Wars to go around. You can just not watch this.

I too found Rogue One to be extremely mediocre, and Andor to be one of the blandest characters in an incredibly bland set of characters. Above all others, that film (and its popularity) demonstrates to me just how different peoples’ expectations of Star Wars can be. Suffice to say I really didn’t care about the spin-off prequel show to the spin-off prequel film when it was announced, and didn’t check it out til long after it was over and the praise kept piling up. Part of me thinks Disney/LFL didn’t care much either, as it seems like a rare case where a creator was left alone to tell their story.

I kind of want an Episode 9 one to complete the ST set but Mike doesn’t care like that anymore. Those Plinkett reviews were a lot of work and everything has changed so much since then. In depth complaints about Star Wars in general aren’t the same anymore.