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A great many shots in Harmy's newer versions have replaced what used to be GOUT upscales with 35mm material from the -1 project, and in every case these shots look far, far superior to anything that could ever be derived from the GOUT.

Also, Harmy's eventual goal (assuming he has time) is to replace every GOUT-based shot with 35mm material as it becomes available.  This will give the ability to further despecialize the Blurays and bring back original compositing and mattes for every shot, eliminating the SE recomposites that currently remain.

For this reason alone, -1 must be allowed to continue, 'Team' or not.  And having seen some of their other work, I must admit to being increasingly interested in watching a fully film-based version that doesn't use the SE as a source at all.

All that said, there is clearly something weird going on with this whole 'Team' thing and it does irritate me somewhat.

The idea is hardly new: in The Last Command, the clone of Luke was grown from the chopped hand, and used Luke's first lightsaber.

Luke's hand was said to be one of the Emperor's prized specimens held at the Wayland facility.  Presumably it and the lightsaber were retrieved from Bespin so that Palpatine could make an evil clone version of Luke if he failed to turn the real one to the dark side.

IM ON UR FLIM PRINTZ COMPOSITIN UR MATTE LINEZ

It's definitely supposed to be there, just not so crazy green as it is in these clips.  More of a blue-with-some-green-in-it.

Whenever I hear about Scientology, I immediately think of 'MindHead' from the movie Bowfinger:

keepittogetherkeepittogetherkeepittogether

Bum Buccaneer bumped Fink's mom at a Spice Girls concert:

"Tell me whatcha want, whatcha really really want!"

Bum Buccaneer

Bum Buccaneer

Sailing the High Seas

Cuz I'm So F***ing Queer

Bum Buccaneer gonna bump yo' old azz . . .

Are you depressed?

Irritable?

Tired of life?

Keep it up.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I'm getting a sense of deja vu from this post. 

What, as in "This toilet has lowered my respect for everyone who has crapped in it"?

It recently occurred to me that lately I probably come off like a grumpy arse-bandit in the majority of my posts, since most of what I say has been expressing frustration with online shenanigans rather than contributing in a more positive way.

My actual level of seriousness, however, shall remain enigmatic.  In the meantime, let's all chillax and listen to this silly song instead: Word Crimes

So now we're... scrapping sending anyone money and instead drinking with bums after they have sex with our mothers? Or am I misinterpreting.

So it would seem . . .

This thread has genuinely lowered my respect for everyone who has posted in it.

And since I've now posted in it, I'm including myself in that list.

"Come play with us, Salacious . . ."

Yup, it's a '97 change.  In the original version cave-Vader has the same breathing sound as in every other scene, but in the SE it is changed to a more generic, lower-pitched, and more raspy sound.  The difference isn't hugely obvious, but it is there, and it is certainly a pointless thing to have done.

The way Zahn himself tells it, the idea of the capital city-planet itself already existed and was present in the West End Games RPG and its related books, and he used it since he'd been directed by Lucasfilm to tie his stories in with that material.

In the West End source, however, the planet's name was Imperial Center.  Finding this to be an unacceptable name for a planet, which should have its own culture and history and so on, Zahn came up with the name Coruscant as a derivation of 'coruscating', or glittering, as a reference to the many lights a gigantic city would produce.

In-universe, this discrepancy of naming is attributed to the Empire's revisionist portrayal of history.  Apparently, Palpatine changed the name of the planet to Imperial Center when he came to power, and it had only just been changed back to its original name when the New Republic decided to set up the government there.

I've noticed that one.  It bugs me too, for the same reason.

Yet another case of the SE over-thinking it and changing things that were perfectly fine and didn't need changing, just because they could do it.

Speaking as someone who likes Return of the Jedi, though acknowledging it to not be as good as the first two films, I'm seeing a lot of stupid things being posted in this thread lately.

NEEDZ MOAR BOOBZORZ

grifter said:

Still a big "meh" for me, don't really feel anything with this trailer or the last one.

It kind of looks like SW but more like "i'm watching a Dark Forces 2 cutscene in HD" SW...

Am i the only one to feel like this?

That was pretty much my reaction.

Parts of it kind of look like Star Wars, and some of it even sounds a bit like Star Wars, but . . . there's just something missing.  The sense that it isn't going to be ridiculously overblown, maybe?

Actually, I got a more genuine sense of SW-ness from those DF2 cutscenes than I did from this.

And seriously, what the hell is going on with Chewie's face?

I thought it was orange?

Oh wait, that was Darth Maul.  Nevermind.

For the record, I just invited someone to put on my pants after I crapped in them, so they wouldn't have to feel peer pressure to crap in their own pants to fit in.

Also for the record, I was not ignoring myself when I said it.

Since the novelization of Revenge of the Sith was so good, it took me a while to see just how dreadful the movie actually was.  I wanted to believe that what I'd seen matched up to what I'd read, even when it clearly didn't.  It was also the last hope that the prequel story as a whole might actually turn out to be watchable, so I clung to the idea that I'd seen a good movie for a while before eventually having to accept that I really had not.

I always liked that many different lightsaber colors are seen in use by the group of dark Jedi in Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight.

AYE UHGREE WIT AWL DA LISTE

"This place can be a little rough."

Yes it can . . . and it seems to me that if folks are intent on carrying through with making this place into a bar where ruffians and scumrots can enter freely, then what it really needs is a wandering space samurai with a lightsaber who can, in extreme cases, dismember the worst of the drunken louts when their attacks become too aggressive.

If this thread were to be moved to Off Topic, which is a legitimate outhouse, then it would fit right in.

Akton said:

Tarkin's line also evokes the singularly unique image of Vader we all once accepted as a given - that he, as far as the citizens of the Empire knew, was the last of the Jedi; the last practitioner of the Force (to whatever extent its existence was known or acknowledged); the last wielder of that mysterious and ancient "Jedi weapon" (as Palpatine called it) - the lightsaber. And his title - Dark Lord of the Sith - being some obscure honorific attached to his position in the Empire, and not an indication that he's merely a member of an ancient order of "anti-Jedi," all named Darth and all equipped with red lightsabers (even Palpatine himself - despite his clearly expressed disdain and relative unfamiliarity with that "Jedi weapon").

This—so much this.  It is exactly why the prequels just don't jive with the ideas we all had in our heads about how the SW universe worked, because the way the original films were written was full of these kinds of implications, which ultimately ended up getting stomped over and contradicted to death.  It's a huge part of why the prequels will never fit as a legitimate part of the Star Wars story, no matter how anyone tries to shoehorn them in there; and why we stubbornly resist all attempts to say otherwise.  Vague as they were, these hints and implications formed a much cooler picture than what was later shown, and the clashing of tonal inconsistency plays a big part in what makes them so jarring, even when removed from any considerations of their overall quality.