guiser

dark_jedi said:

So does anyone have a link to this supposed 1080i file of The Black Hole or is this just some smoke blowing?

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SilverWook said:

Tack said:

guiser said:

I'm also interested in The Black Hold in HD!  I haven't seen it in way too long...

Black Hold?

I think he means Disney's The Black Hole.

Correct, sorry.

At this point I would probably suspect the conversion you are doing or the playback device.

If you play it back on your computer (using VLC for example) is the aspect correct?  I would verify this first.

I'm not that familiar with tsmuxer or ImgBurn, but maybe there is a setting you need to change somewhere (or it isn't picking up the aspect ratios correctly)?  Perhaps someone more familiar with this type of conversion could chime in.

I'm also interested in The Black Hold in HD!  I haven't seen it in way too long...

Check the HandeBrake log for the encode (you might need to turn verbosity up in the settings then run the encode again), there are a ton of useful messages there.  It will tell you the values used for copping, anamorphic, aspect ratio, etc.  These are all important when trying to diagnose an issue like this.

I believe HandBrake just does this to save space in the output.  The rationale being if they are just black why encode them at all.

The aspect ratio of the video shouldn't be changing, what are you using for playback?

dvdmike said:

The Old Poppins HDTV master was filled with the worst DNR I have ever seen it looked like this:

 

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/comparison.php?cap1=25712&cap2=24883&art=full&image=0&cID=1878&action=1&lossless=#vergleich

 

But worse 

Looks like they over-sharpened it as well...

I don't know about you all, but I prefer the forum drama to a cleaned and polished news letter :-p

So it can... I never noticed the Video -> Crop feature of VLC before (I've always just used the Aspect feature if the video flags are incorrect).  Thanks!

My vote would be for open matte then to avoid re-encoding.

Does anyone know if there has ever been a preservation of the Adventures of Chip ‘N’ Dale movie?  I think the only versions available are VHS (has since I was a kid and is well past its prime) and DiscoVision (which I have never seen).

I am aware that many of the segments are available in other places, several of which I already have.  What I’m looking for is the complete movie with the cut scenes intact.

I would love to see both (one of my favorite movies)!  If it's going to take too much time, no biggie though.

Are there any players out there that can do a soft matte while playing?  Kind of a strange feature, but useful in this case.

I get irritated with the constant quality setting, especially for high compression.  From what I understand, the quality is constant within the video source, not between different sources.

I realize video compression is one of the black arts, but I would love to have a "set once" compression option to batch convert all my movies for a single target (phone for example).  With either bit rate or CQ, there are always some videos that could be compressed more or really need to be compressed less to get them to the same quality to my eyes.

In answer to the question above, for DVDs I don't even bother to re-encode them any more since HD space is so cheap.  Blu-rays I tend to keep on disc, at least for now.  Going along with my theme above, I'm not sure there is a bit rate you can point to, at which point you have hit diminishing returns.  It really depends on the source, the viewing environment, and the viewer.

hairy_hen said:

Regarding the issues with The Lord of the Rings—anybody who is upset about this could always try reading the books.  Not only are they 100% faithful to Tolkien's artistic vision, I hear the colour timing on them is fantastic.  ;)

Lol, as good as the movies are, I still prefer the books.  And I don't really even like to read all that much...

AntcuFaalb said:

Neomic said:

Most people associate THX with quality

Most people don't know WTF THX is.

And those who do– myself included, of course –realize that THX is a crock of shit.

I remember a projectionist in the 90's at my favorite theater (the one that looked and sounded the best to me) telling me that they refused to get THX certified.

The reason, they exceeded the THX specifications and would need to lower their quality to get the cert.

I don't know if this is really true or not, but the visual and audio experience of the movies I saw there is still better than many theaters today.  Might just be me getting old though...

I would love to check this out!

It must be an interesting experience meeting people from a forum in real life after "getting to know" them by their avatars :p

AntcuFaalb said:

timdiggerm said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I figured the 30th anniversary would be a 6-month orgy

Holy cow! I feel like I'll some practice to prepare!

No. All you need is lessons from this kid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq5-6PkVGCg

What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Interesting.  I'm sure the final product will look amazing.  It's always hard to tell (for me at least) when looking at all the comparisons right next to each other what the optimal one is.

Unfortunately, my only real experience is seeing the film on TV, VHS and DVD so I really don't have any good frame of reference.  It will be nice to have a proper reconstruction.

You_Too said:

By the way, here's that shot in the same kind of comparison:

Here you can clearly see that the theatrical DVD looks more pink than our final version.

On my calibrated display the DVD shot doesn't actually look more pink to me (when viewing the face and clothing).  The second image actually seems more pink in that regard, but the background elements are definitely cooler.  Perhaps it is more noticeable since the face is what the viewer will be focused on the most when watching the scene.

The contrast in the second image seems a bit low, but maybe that is just because it is sitting right next to the first which has higher brightness and contrast.

borisanddoris said:

Let's be frank too: this is a 3D only release, that is designed to be viewed in 3D, with glasses.  We aren't really giving it a fair assessment if we're looking at it in 2D, on computer monitors.

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

borisanddoris said:

As far as the image, the 3D disc is so much closer to the film print I saw.  Surely not the same, but it's so much closer and better than the 2011 disc.

Don't know... the first image is a bit dark, but colors could be OK, as the second one;

When viewing 3D at home, does the image suffer from the same dimming and desaturation issues present at cinemas?  I've never seen the home stuff myself, but remember reading about Peter Jackson adjusting attributes for The Hobbit during filming, taking these effects into account.

When converting a film from 3D to 2D (or simply taking a screenshot), do the same corrections need to be "reversed" as well?

Nick66 said:

chyron8472 said:

1978.

Believe it or not, my earliest memories of Star Wars are listening to the Return of the Jedi Read-Along Book and Tape. :)

 

Actually, I used to love the "Story of Star Wars" LP myself. :)

And the black bars you recall during the throne room scene could have still been a P&S version.  Unless I'm mistaken (and I'm sure someone will correct me if I am), some of the old P&S videocassettes switched to "widescreen" in the final moments of the film, just before the credits.  I once knew the technical reason for this, but I've forgotten it. Though I do remember something like that happening in many old VHS films, not just SW.

I always thought it was so they could show the credits at full width without having to stretch them vertically (or re-create them in the narrow P&S format)?

guiser said:

For people who want the burned in sub scenes clean, would it be possible to render just those scenes by themselves sans subtitles as an extra?

They could even be encoded at a slightly higher bit rate since they may be used in other projects and thus re-compressed later.

Or could the files be stored right in another directory in the Blu-ray (only visible if the image is mounted or the disc is viewed as data)?  I thought this was possible with DVD, but have never heard of doing it with Blu-ray.

For people who want the burned in sub scenes clean, would it be possible to render just those scenes by themselves sans subtitles as an extra?

They could even be encoded at a slightly higher bit rate since they may be used in other projects and thus re-compressed later.

As a side note, I remember hearing about multi-angle and dynamic-branching back when DVD first came out.  I've still never seen a really good implementation of it.  Mostly the discs I have just stutter or hang when trying to use the feature.  Fusion!  Still only 50 years away!

TV's Frink said:

I'm still missing one.

Chunk!

Hal 9000 said:

The real fun will begin when all three hobbit films are out, and we try to pair them down to a single purist-minded edit of comporable running time to a single LOTR film.

This ^ is what I'm waiting for!!