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#82845
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Tellan, I think you're on the right track with the notion of having two versions of the movie: the O-OT based on the LD and a Special Edition that's watchable, based on the DVD. The latter is what my project has turned into. The only LD footage I've used is that of Shaw-as-ghost, and it wasn't problematic as other LD-source video would be, given the nature of the ghost effect.


I posted a DVD-quality clip of Shaw-as-ghost a while ago. Why didn't you use that? I could repost it if you want.

Greetings
Grisan
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#82838
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<strong>The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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Originally posted by: Cowclops
Hi. I'm the one that made "The TR47" set and I'm the one making the new one. So far, the in movie video is finalized for the new set, and this week I'm finishing up the extras. One thing that TR47 said (he's sort of the executive producer of this little project... I sold him a set back when I was selling them on ebay in March 2003 and he liked it, so thats how he ended up on this) is that I would use the actual Definitive Collection chapter stops. I may not be doing this because I think it has an unnecessary number of stops per movie... something like 60 i believe. I'd prefer to do less than 30, as this actually makes it easier to navigate the movie (and frankly takes less effort to author). I might just do every other stop, or "the most important ones" but anyway, I didn't use the original stops for the so-called "TR47" set and it works. As long as they're not arbitrary, I can't imagine anyone complaining.

As far as using PCM audio on a single layer disc, there has been talk of the video quality suffering far too much. This is not the case. Because the Laserdiscs are so much softer than a true film->dvd transfer, it actually makes it very easy to compress. The average bitrate I'm using on the new set (which is actually a little less than I used on the old set because I'm making room for menus) still produces a maximum Q level (as reported by bitrateviewer) of LESS THAN 5, and an average of less than 3. While this doesn't imply that the final video quality is perfect, it DOES imply that the quality lost due to compression is extremely minimal. As a comparison, I popped in the theatrical version of Fellowship of the Ring, and the average Q was around 4 and it peaked all the way up to 8 for a max. The point is, because of the nature of the source, it is very compressable... so you lose just about nothing when comparing single layer to dual layer versions. For those who don't believe me, I did actually compress it twice and I will keep the "dual layer" version archived for future purposes if necessary, but right now, it just isn't necessary.

They will be anamorphic, so that people with 16:9 sets can watch them without black bars on the sides. The one thing that might be an issue is that while the subtitles in the Jabba the Hutt scenes aren't cut off because of the resizing process, they well almost certainly be in the overscan area on typical 16:9 CRT sets. This shouldn't be an issue for LCD/DLP projection and it won't be an issue on a PC monitor, however.

For those that think the color saturation in the original set is lacking, I've picked up a lot more knowledge on color processing in the last 2 years, so hopefully people should agree that the color on the new set far exceeds the quality of the previous set.

If you have any more questions, you can get me on "Cowclops" on AIM.

For those wondering about the previous version, you can find my crappy leftover "faq" site on the original version at http://www.cowclops.net/sw.htm

Feel free to continue referring to it as the TR47 set, as he is going to do most of the "promotion" work anyway, as you've probably already noticed.

Enjoy.


Hello Cowclops and welcome to the board.
You did a very good job with your DVDs and I am looking forward to your new set.
I agree with you that 30 chapter stops are enough for a movie, but I also understand the people that prefer the original LD chapter stops.
I am also pleased to read taht your next set will be anamorphic, because this will increase the quality a little.
However using PCM on a single layer DVD is just plain stupid IMO. (No offense.)
Of course you are right if you say that because of the LD-source the video is easy to compress, but the video quality could still be better with a higher bitrate. I think video quality should always be first, especially because the difference between PCM and ac3 sound is extremly minimal if noticable at all. If you choose a high bitrate for the ac3, lets say 384 Kbit, there is no way anyone can hear a difference. You would save more than 1 Mbit that could be used for the video track. 1 Mbit will make a big difference in scenes with high motion. Another factor is that instead of 1 PCM track you can easily add 3-4 alternate audio tracks (other languages, music, DC LD commentary, 2004 DVD commentary).

Greetings
Grisan
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#82709
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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Just out of curiosity, do they include the English 5.1 mix on your disc? And how is the music mix on ANH?


The german discs include a german 5.1 EX, english 5.1 EX and the commentary track in 2.0.
I can't tell if there is a problem with the music mix (if you are referring to the problem that the rear channels of music are reversed), because I only have a Prologic II setup.

Greetings
Grisan
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#82701
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Grisan, you continue to be a source of coolness on this board. Thank you. One question: the file had a .jpeg extension on it. Should it have a .mpg extension or an AC3 extension?

Daniel, no frames were added or restored, only deleted. Not a true restoration, but at least a restoration of concept. More later ...


It is an mpeg 2 file (file ending should be mpg or vob) , Mpeg2-video with muxed ac3-audio. You can watch it with a media player of your choice and use a de-multiplexer (Tmpeg etc) to get the ac3 audio.

Greetings
Grisan
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#82697
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan


3) I've gotten the "Wesa Free" line out of the ending of the stereo track by crossfading with the French 2.0 track during the final scenes of the movie (after the dialogue is complete). I have not gotten the 5.1 remixed though, as I'm having a bear of a time editing 5.1 audio. If anybody has a 5.1 track in a non-english language (German for instance) PM me. It may help. I'm unsure if they made a 5.1 mix in any language other than English, but I'm hoping.


I just checked my german original DVDs. The german 5.1 track does not have the "Wesa free" line or a german equivalent. I uploaded a clip of this ending sequence to:
http://ice.prohosting.com/~grisan/.
This is from a PAL source again, so you'll have to change the audio timing from 25 to 24 fps.

Greetings
Grisan
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#82133
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Info Wanted: German HDTV rip
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Originally posted by: Karyudo
Well if that's the case, then there's a good possibility there's almost zero difference. I have two copies of the German DTV broadcast: one purportedly from DigiBeta, and one a direct rip. They're nearly identical in terms of sharpness, etc., but the DigiBeta-sourced one looks to be 16-235, whereas the rip looks to be 0-255.


I totally agree. There is no real visible quality difference. I only have one version of the german rip, but this is the same quality as the reivax version although bitrate is much lower.
Never heard of a second german rip though. Where did you get it?

Greetings
Grisan

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#80774
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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Hi,

I finally moved my cover collection to a new and reliable host. I also added a simple upload section, where you can upload your covers (jpg < 2500 Kb) for temporary hosting.
From time to time I will move covers from the upload area to the gallery, if the creator has no objection. Of course I have to take the upload section down if there are too many abuses.

here is the link:
http://home.pages.at/grisan/

Greetings
Grisan
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#78667
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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Originally posted by: El Lono
Grisan:

I would be very grateful if you could upload the Emperor sequence in Empire, and the finale (mos eisley, coruscant etc) from Jedi.

Also, I have ripped the alternate angle with no problems. This was done with osex.



rotj_97_SE_ending.m2v 29 MB
esb_old_emperor.m2v 27 MB

These are muxed mpeg files with 2.0 english audio. File ending "mpg" was not allowed by the host.
Get it fast, it will probably be removed soon.

Unfortuantely the opening crawl (inlcuding star wars logo) is in german in my version so it is useless for you.

Greetings.
grisans

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#78654
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Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
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Originally posted by: General Gravos

By "broadcast" tape, do you mean that the tranfer has been made from a professional tape like the star wars reivax version?
Could you post a screenshot?


With the difference that this broadcast tape is probably from the late 70s (when TV quality and studio equipment was much worse) and not digital.
Although I really would like to see a screenshot, too. So far I only watched bad VHS transfers of the HS.

greetings
grisan
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#78313
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Mpeg encode ??
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Originally posted by: khamul02
I'm not sure how it is smaller when it is converted back to 30fps?


It is not really convert to 29,97 fps. You just enabled a flag in the mpeg stream that tells the player software to perform a 3:2 pulldown while playing.
This basically converts a group of 4 frames into a group of 5 frames. This happens 6 times per second. (24 fps divided into 6 groups per second == 4 frames per group, then create 5 frames out of these 4 in every group and still playback these 6 groups per seconds == equals 30 fps). The new frames are created by splitting frames into even and odd fields (think line numbers) and put together in a specific way.
Here is a more exact and technical description of this procedure:
http://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report/production_a_z/3_2_pulldown.htm

You could just capture your LDs at 29,97 fps and encode it to mpeg with 29,97 fps interlaced mode, but 23,976 fps progressive mode usually gives much better results, so most people try to restore the original 24 fps from the laserdisc material by applying inverse telecine.

Greetings
Grisan
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#78269
Topic
Mpeg encode ??
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When you enocde your video with 23,976 you need to enable the 3:2 pulldown flag in the mpeg stream to get it NTSC DVD compliant. There are several tools that can do this .
Some DVD authoring programs even do this conversion themself (e.g. dvdlab).
This will not effect audio sync. The new mpeg video stream has the same duration (just higher fps).

http://guiguy.wminds.com/downloads/pulldownbatchfe/

Greetings
grisan.
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#78141
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STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
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Originally posted by: Rikter


COOL!! - I don't have to upload them now that your uploading the The REIVAX Version - Will you be uploading these on MYSPLEEN.NET??



The torrent for ANH is available at suprnova.org.
It has really great video quality (about the same as my german dvb-version), and seems to have nice menus.
Anyone knows if there will be torrents for ESB and ROTJ?

Greetings
Grisan
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#77402
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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Originally posted by: Chrysophylax
Haven't tracked it down just yet, but this is the one:
Definitive Case-Rear

-logan.


Look what I found on two of my german Star Wars VHS Boxes.

http://scifi.pages.at/swpaldvd/trilogy_posters_small.jpg

It is not the quite the same picture, but the one from DC box was used to create this picture (Artwork of one of my vhs-boxes).
I used scans of the box to stitch this picture together.

Here are the hi-res links:
http://scifi.pages.at/swpaldvd/trilogy_posters.jpg
http://scifi.pages.at/swpaldvd/box01.jpg
http://scifi.pages.at/swpaldvd/box02.jpg.jpg
http://scifi.pages.at/swpaldvd/alternative_box.jpg

Greetings
Grisan
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#77342
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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Originally posted by: Chrysophylax
Anybody here have a scan of, or knows where I can find the image that is on the back of the Definitive Collection's outer box? It's essentially a blend of all three theatrical posters. My idea is to put together a cover sleeve for a 4-Disc case that reproduces the DC package. Rikter designed one a while back that is quite close to what I want; I'm thinking of using it as a template for the overall sizing, color scheme etc. Maybe I could throw in that image of the TIE fighter with X-Wing in pursuit from the DC spine too.

-logan.


Do you have a a low res pic or similar pic of the one you mean?

Grisan
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#77076
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Info Wanted: German HDTV rip
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I think I have this version. I got it from Ebay about a year ago. It is a special edition PAL version in 16:9 anamorphic widescreen (it was actually broadcasted via DVB in this format, so it is not upscaled) with german 5.1 and english 2.0 sound. The quality is absoluty brilliant, very near to "real" DVDs.
It is definitely better than any laserdisc transfer could be, and is the ultimate version of the 1997 SE you can posses right now.

here is a sample:
rotj_old_anakin_ghost.mpg

Greetings
Grisan
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#76042
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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Hi,

I reuploaded my covers. Here is the new link: Cover Collection
Unfortunatly practically all free webspace providers are useless for this kind of image archive (no ftp access, only 25 mb space, filesize limit of 250 kb, no image galleries allowed, only 1 Gb traffic etc.) .
This time I used multiple free webspace providers and accounts to spread the bandwidth.
So at least some of the content will probably be available most of the time.

Greetings
Grisan
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#75882
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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Hi,

the site seems to cause to much traffic (although the host claimed unlimited traffic for free :-( ).
I am currently looking for another free webhost. If someone has a suggestion please feel free to inform me. 250 Mb space needed abd as much traffic as possible.
I will upload the covers again and spread it to multiple hosts. Maybe it lasts longer this time.


Greerings
Grisan.