gobalicious

Davnes007 said:

fishmanlee said:

So do like I said, flip the entire video in "Vegas".

Actually...you're right. - I won't let FOX win.

I've now mirrored the whole video.

http://youtu.be/Yu6P2GXa4u0

I didn't want to redo the my title 'sequence'...but I did it.

 

Yeah, that's really good.  I think I would have cut most of Obi-Wan walking up to the ship and just open with C3PO on the platform.

There's also this deleted scene from the trailer that could be used to establish that Palpatine's coming right away.  It's of his ship arriving at Coruscant, but the planet could easily be changed to Mustafar.  I don't know if it exists in high quality though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G1gRexyd7g

The Concierge said:

Nice video! I wonder if it'd be possible/worth it to have Obi actively attacked/pursued, rather like the Falcon's escape from Cloud City...?

It would be hard.  It's already bad enough that Obi-Wan shows no urgency when trying to leave.  But maybe an exciting John Williams cue could do wonders.  Imagine the Falcon escaping without the music.  Boring.

Davnes007 said:

Well, here's a video that partially uses your idea. At least it inspired me to get off my ass, and make a video.

Enjoy...if you dare.

http://youtu.be/elO3omkyE5Q  - Oops...already blocked by FOX

 

Dailymotion to the rescue.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnewqb_oh-no-not-another-rots-re-edit_shortfilms

Blocked too.  Vimeo?  Google docs?

I still don't think that works. Obi-Wan would be running.

Yeah, I thought of that.  It could doom the idea.  But if you cut away as much of Obi-Wan's walking as possible, it could work.  A mockup video would be the only way to tell.

Here's an idea for those of you who take issue with Obi-Wan leaving Anakin to burn.  Obi-Wan comes off as spiteful or at least merciless.  We need a better reason for him to leave instead of going down and putting his friend out of his misery.

So I thought a good reason might be because he sees Palpatine's shuttle coming.  In that moment, he knows Yoda is probably dead, the Republic is doomed, and he needs to high tail it out of there before he gets double teamed.  His mission to kill Anakin is aborted, and his only goal is survival.  Maybe at the very least he can prevent Padme and the kids from falling into the Emperor's hands.

It turns out there is a good place to put such a scene where Obi-Wan sees Palpatine's shuttle.  Right before Anakin says, "This is the end for you my master." there is a pause in the fight as they stare at each other.  See 5:47 here.. Here you could put in the shuttle flying over.  Right after this shot, Obi-Wan makes his final stand and jumps over the river bank. It's a really good placement because it explains why Obi-Wan needs to end the fight quickly.

I don't know enough to do a mockup video, but here are some poorly photoshopped images of what I'm talking about.

After Anakin says, "This is the end for you my master." Cut to the shuttle landing, and then back to the ending of the duel.  After Obi-Wan leaves, cut to Palpatine discovering Anakin's body.

Anyone think this is possible or worthwhile?

aalenfae said:

I'm not dead! Just haven't been at my editing computer for a very long time.

So I made a mock-up for a potential idea I had. Thoughts?
 

I like it.  It looks like you increased the size of her belly too.

To be honest, you could make it a lot bigger.  Take a look at woman 9 months pregnant with even a single baby.  It's huge.  As it was, it's way too small and misshapen.  It's like they just put a throw pillow under there.  Rounder and perhaps a little farther south.

nightstalkerpoet said:

Vader believes that Obi-Wan is responsible for manipulating her against him,

All the more reason for him to not want to think about her again.  She betrayed him.

Somebody who has taken to the dark side of the force is not suddenly rendered incapable of love

I couldn't disagree more.  The fact that Vader found the love in his heart to save Luke is an exception and is what makes the moment so powerful.

At this point, I'm sure Vader wants to forget his former identity of Anakin Skywalker and he wouldn't want anything to remind him of it.

nightstalkerpoet said:

Has anyone considered inserting Anakin/Vader and Palpatine in the funeral procession for Padme? Considering there is no longer any reason for the relationship to be hidden, and the fact that Padme is the only thing Anakin truly cares about, I can't understand why he and the Emperor (originally from Naboo) would not make an appearance there.

Vader believes he killed Padme.  He probably doesn't want to think about her again.  People would wonder who the dude in the black suit is.  Although, in my ideal edit, Vader would show absolutely no remorse for killing Amidala.

Perhaps Palpatine should show up for appearance's sake, but I imagine he would be too busy solidifying his rule.  I don't see any compelling reason for either of them to be there.  I'm more into the idea that Padme shouldn't die at all during childbirth.

Well done on the video.  It's always good to see a new ROTS edit.  It has the most potential of the prequels.

I really like the edit of the elevator scene.  It's so ridiculous that old man Palpatine somehow managed to latch on after falling and swing out the door without raising serious suspicions.

I remember someone else did a similar edit of this scene (maybe Bob?) and then after they swung out the door, inserted Obi-Wan's line "Did I miss something?"  It was one of the few times I laughed out loud in a prequel.  After he turns around, he has a very confused look on his face.

Episode I: A Disturbance in the Force

Episode I: Heroes of the Old Republic

Episode II: The Galaxy Divided

Episode II: A Shattered Peace

Episode III: The Dawn of Darkness (an oxymoron, I know)

Episode III: A Dark Order Rises

jonathan7 said:

On the whole lightsaber issue/problem. Had a sort of wild idea; could Anakin give Obi-Wan his lightsaber the last time they see each other before Obi-Wan leaves for Utapao. Instead of Anakin saying "Your going to need me" - Could it be changed to "you might need this", and then move into a close up of two hands with the lightsaber changing hands?

Just a thought... It could also mean that he already has a red blade when he cuts Windu's arm off. Would possibly change the perspective of Anakin turning up at Palpatine's office that he had already decided to side with Palpatine and made himself a new saber.

Just a thought...

It's a good idea. 

Instead of Palpatine's lightsaber falling out the window, it could fall on the floor.  Anakin would then pick it up and use it to slice Mace.  This would then be the saber that he uses in the duel.

As for why Obi-Wan needs Anakin's saber, he is going against Grievous who is known to fight with multiple sabers.  In addition, Obi-Wan does eventually lose his lightsaber.  Maybe you could cut the scene where he gets it back, so that he does in fact need Anakin's lightsaber to escape order 66.  Maybe he even uses Anakin's saber in the duel?  However, you have the question of why doesn't Obi-Wan use Anakin's saber versus Grievous, unless you cut it so he loses it before then or have some other death for Grievous.

WheresBlackhawk said:

How about if you take the comic one step further...

Back in that ancient thread about animating the NPT, I always figured that would be near impossible.

I always thought it would be cool to make storyboard for the NPT, so basically a comic with soundtrack and sound fx.

What do you think?

Good idea.  It's the best a single person could hope to achieve who already doesn't have some animation background.

I've already had the idea of turning the existing PT into a storyboard.  Take stills from the movies, add completely new dialogue, incorporate John Williams' score and SFX.  Perhaps add a comic book effect to the images.  With some voice actors you could even do a sort of visually aided radio drama.

TheoOdo said:

We may agree that it's silly for Obi-Wan to be dressed as a Jedi whilst in hiding, but it's been established - from Return of the Jedi on, if not earlier - that that's just what he was doing.

It's not completely established.  Two of those guys lived on Tatooine, so we might expect they were just wearing traditional Tatooine clothing, like Owen.  Yoda was essentially a monk wearing sackcloth.

That said, all Jedi wearing brown robes doesn't bother me.  It's obviously intended to match the simple robes of a peasant/farmer like Owen.  Obi-Wan would just blend in as another farmer.

Now I don't think Jedi should wear brown robes all the time.  It seems a very foolish thing to do in the heat of battle.  How about some armor?  How about a military uniform?

Basically, the brown robes should just be their everyday clothing that they wear while meditating, teaching, and meeting.  But when they go on official Republic business, they put on their uniforms. (Perhaps like Luke's black uniform?)  For battle they add armor.

R2D2 said:

• Yoda communes with Qui-Gon scene not in the movie

 

I'm sad.  You bring in Liam Neeson to do a voice over for Clone Wars but don't shoot this?

He should have just said, "Leia is your sister."  On your deathbed is a good time to be efficient with words.  Besides, it's kind of pointless drama anyway, since the question of who the other Skywalker is gets resolved almost immediately when Luke talks to Obi-Wan.

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

miker71 said:

Personally I never knew what a parsec was, and still have not looked at a dictionary definition.

Parsec: a unit of distance used in astronomy, equal to about 3.25 light years.

=P

 

Defined by the distance an object would have to be from Earth if its parallax was one arcsecond.

Really I would prefer if no Earth units of measurement were mentioned in Star Wars.  (Not only parsecs, but meters when describing the width of the DS exhaust port.)  As a scientist, it really brings me out of universe.  Now if this was hard sci-fi, different story.

Evin Jade said:

Hello there! Long time reading this boards, but never really post something. And I must say, you guys rocks in terms of creating something new from very sad PT. I just hope that ideas from here one day became a part of really cool edit.

Something came to my mind today. It's a little crazy idea, but what if we replace Jar-Jar on C-3PO?

For example, in Episode I, C-3PO could be that servant droid on trade fed's ship in the very beginning, who sought a chance to escape from his greedy masters when jedi show up. Hi sneaks onto one of the ships after jedi and lands on the planet. When Qui-Gon run through the forest he might see him (here we replace JJ with droid) and so on. Then they meet Obi-Wan and Threepio say, that he knows the way to the city (cut underwater sequence entirely). Movie continues as usual, except we see Threepio and no Jar-Jar. When on Tatooine, we smoothly cut meeting Threepio with R2, then roto/replace/cut the footage with Binks and Threepio to create one golden droid from both gungan and non-covered C-3PO.

In other two movies similar things may be done. I just seen a footage and it really could work. Of course, this almost impossible and would require shooting an actor with a suit and a massive redub and effects work, but who knows..

Sorry for spelling, my english is not so perfect)

This is a great idea.  I'm surprised how plausible it is.  I think someone with Adywan's skills and backing could really pull it off.  *hint hint*

STAR WARS

Episode II

THE GALAXY DIVIDED

Despite the end of the crisis on Alderaan, unrest persists throughout the Republic.  Hundreds of systems under the leadership of former Jedi, Count Dooku, threaten to secede from the Republic.

Meanwhile, the Mandalorians have continued to build their military.  Many fear an alliance between the Mandalorians and the Separatist movement could lead to war.

Senator Amidala returns to the capital to vote on the critical issue of raising an Army of the Republic to maintain order in the galaxy....

STAR WARS

Episode III

FALL OF THE REPUBLIC

The war between the Republic and the Separatists has ravaged the galaxy, but now the Republic is on the brink of defeat.

In a stunning move, the nefarious Lord Maul and his clone army have swept into the Republic capital and kidnapped the Supreme Chancellor.

While Maul attempts to flee the besieged capital with his valuable hostage, two Jedi Knights lead a desperate mission to rescue the Chancellor and save the Republic from certain downfall....

Crawls from my burgeoning rehash of the PT:

STAR WARS

Episode I

A DISTURBANCE IN THE FORCE

For 800 years, the Galactic Republic has thrived in peace under the guidance of the Jedi Knights, but now a crisis stirs.

An army from the militant world of Mandalore has invaded the peaceful planet of Alderaan and taken its leaders hostage.  In exchange for withdrawing their forces, the Mandalorians demand full independence from the Republic.

While the Galactic Senate endlessly debates the situation, the Supreme Chancellor has secretly dispatched Jedi Knight Obi-Wan Kenobi in a desperate attempt to rescue Alderaan’s captive senator....

Just playing around with a crawl for an edit where Endor is a moon of Coruscant and Luke returns to Dagobah before rescuing Han.  I tried to keep it short and sweet.  Many fan crawls are far too wordy. 

STAR WARS

Episode VI

RETURN OF THE JEDI

The Rebel Alliance has been scattered across the galaxy.  After his disastrous duel with Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker has returned to complete his Jedi training under Master Yoda.

Impatiently waiting for Luke, Princess Leia and Lando Calrissian have went to Tatooine to rescue Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt.

Meanwhile, the Galactic Empire has begun construction on a new Death Star orbiting a moon of Coruscant, the Imperial capital.  When completed, it will spell certain doom for the Rebellion….

Bingowings said:

I don't know how much this could be done but maybe instead of having the water-ball ballet at the Opera House in ROTS, there could be a propaganda piece about how the evil Jedi Dooku had started the war and was defeated by the efforts of the Grand Army and The Chancellor.

It would show how the regime was already twisting the story against the Jedi and in favour of Palpatine and serve as a better parallel to Palpatine's grooming of Anakin.

^Agreed.

A real missed opportunity is that Palpatine could have insinuated that it was the Jedi behind the war.  He could have suggested Dooku was colluding with the Jedi council to perpetuate the war, and they used it to build their power to take over the Republic.  The Sith were just a proxy on which to place blame.  What about the mysterious Jedi that supposedly ordered the clone army?  It seems such an obvious thing to do.

"You look absolutely beautiful. You truly belong here with us among the clouds." Sorry Lando, but that's just cheesy, not charming.

TV's Frink said:

gobalicious said:

I could be wrong depending on how BobGarcia, TheCutter, and Adywan's revolutionary edits turn out though.

*scans list for own name*

*sobs*

I would like to be proven even more wrong.

I like the idea of the prequels and certain aspects of what we got, but overall I think they're unsalvageable despite the noble efforts of many fan editors.  I could be wrong depending on how BobGarcia, TheCutter, and Adywan's revolutionary edits turn out though.  I still hold out hope an edit, comic, novel, or animated film could be made that I can add to my personal Saga.  I don't hate them and I respect George for making his vision come to life, even if I think it is very flawed.  Overall I treat the prequels like a rogue son.  I dislike his choices and lifestyle, respect his decisions nonetheless, but hope he can be reformed.

Love it!  Can't wait to see how you use it in your edit.

I originally thought killing off Han was a good idea, but the more I think about it, the harder it seems to do.

If Han dies early in the movie while being rescued, it adds a lot of gloom to what is supposed to be that last of the lighthearted adventures of Luke et al.  Also, there likely wouldn't be any glory in his death.  A beloved character like Han deserves to not go out like a punk.  In the end, his story still seems like a dead end.  People say his death would add more tension to the movie since it sets the tone that any other of the main characters could die as well.  I disagree.  I think it accomplishes the opposite, since more than one main character dying is very unlikely.  Yoda's death is already sufficient to set this tone.

If Han dies late in the movie, it will overshadow Vader's death, which should be one of the most important moments of the Saga.  We would feel worse for Han, who we've seen over 3 movies grow into a new person, rather than Anakin, who's changed in only over a few minutes.

That leaves only the middle of the movie.  It could be done, but only very carefully.  Too shallow, and his death is a massive let down.  Too dramatic, and it overshadows the upcoming action.  I like the idea that he should sacrifice himself, but how it should be done is very non-obvious.