The next Batman movie should be written by Damon Lindelof and directed by M Night Shyamalan. My choice to play Batman is Shia Lebeouf.
Is that a chestburster?
Ugh when I read interviews of Lindelof I cringe. His "vague is good" argument is a laughably transparent attempt to divert criticism from his extremely flawed, amateur writing.
If you want to do big ideas about science, resolve those ideas with science. Not with religion. Nothing against religion. It's just bad writing to present poorly conceived scientific ideas then say, "Well, it's due to something beyond explanation."
A movie is different than a tv series. A movie should have a self-contained plot. You can leave answers unquestioned, but those answers must not be critical to the plot. I saw a comment somewhere which said Prometheus is the first 3 episodes of a 12-episode tv season. Gee, unsurprising from the hack writer of Lost. And I'm not a bitter Lost fan. I watched that show knowing it was going down the tubes with horrible writing, and I didn't expect answers to all the questions they raised. It had great moments and strong characters but the mythology was trash.
Lindelof is completely oblivious. It's maddening because all of the extremely valid criticism gets swept to the side because people either "don't get it", "want to much information", "are haterzz", etc. If so many people agree on these criticisms, surely it's not a fluke?
Guy doesn't want to think he is anything less than the savior of sci-fi.
Ugh. That Lindelof has friends in very high places (JJ Abrams) is the main reason he gets these high profile projects.
And now I'm starting to really jump on the hater bandwagon. Trying very hard to still like Prometheus. It feels like TPM all over again, but the evolution of my feelings on the movie is more accelerated (days vs. months or even years).
I don't agree with the Kingdom of Heaven analogy because that movie had a pretty solid script. The theatrical version of the movie indicated bits of story had been left out.
In the case of Prometheus the criticism is arising from deeper script issues that may actually be highlighted, rather than tempered, by 20 minutes of additional scenes.
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TV's Frink said:
Duke Dooku would like a word with you.georgec said:
Count Dooku (worst name ever)
http://wiki.ewokpedia.com/index.php?title=Duke_Dooku&oldid=1773&printable=yes
James Franco on Prometheus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdYzGt19zH0#t=0m58s
LOL. How his legs are still attached or functional at all is beyond me.
LOL. Yea I just checked and I guess a high roller dropped a big pledge on the project. Fantastic!
Two Guys is definitely making it. No doubt. The stream of backers and $1000+ per hour has been amazing this past week. I don't know what did it. A couple of weeks ago the chance of success was very slim.
Between Two Guys Spaceventure, Tex Murphy - Project Fedora, Jane Jensen's Moebius, and Double Fine Adventure, I'm so happy as an adventure gamer. This is the resurgence I think many of us were waiting for. Adventure games never went away, and there have been some amazing titles in the last 10-15 years, but seeing all these older developers take back the genre from publishers is very exciting.
^ I understand all too well. That moment visually struck me as awful.
;)
What stands out to me is when Count Dooku (worst name ever) throws Obi-Wan into that bridge in ROTS. Obi-Wan falls, then Dookie drops part of the bridge on Obi-Wan. The CGI in the shot is horrible. It looks like the edge of the bridge should cut both of Obi-Wan's legs off. Then Dookoo drags it along. Just looks awful.
This article is unfortunately pretty spot on. I'm not in the "disappointment" camp, but the more I think about it the more this movie and the reaction remind of The Phantom Menace. I have a feeling that I'm currently rationalizing my fondness of the film based on Sir Ridley's reputation and my enjoyment of his other films, but in a couple of years I might view Prometheus more negatively.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2012/06/11/review-prometheus-is-a-visually-stunning-epic-failure/
http://enchantedmitten.blogspot.com/2003/12/reading-previous-entries-in-this-series.html
I saw that blogger's theory on reddit. He is way overthinking the movie, just like people did with Lost.
Big ideas, muddled script. What annoys me is that in interviews Damon Lindelof talks about preferring ambiguity vs spoonfeeding answers, but that only works if the script is done in such a way that multiple interpretations can be justified.
Look at Inception. You can conclude the ending is a dream, the ending is real, parts of the movie are real or not, etc. The script is well-formed such that these various theories can hold up.
This doesn't work with Lindelof because the guy likes to hint at big ideas but he has zero idea of how to tackle them. He uses the facade of "ambiguity" to rationalize his lack of clear resolution.
Anybody looking for deeper meaning in Prometheus is going to drive themselves crazy. It's a solid sci-fi thriller, but it's not the reinvention of the genre some people hoped it to be.
Honestly, the theories, debating, arguments, etc. that I'm seeing all over the web are identical to what happened during Lost. LOL, people need to stop looking for answers to life in some guy's movie script or tv scripts.
msycamore said:
georgec said:
For which version of ESB does the cropping take place? On the blu-rays? 2004? 1997?
On both the '97 and '04 editions, not seen the blu-ray so I don't know if further alterations have been done, a few shots were still left alone on the DVD.
Interesting. Never knew of or noticed this change before.
A few inconsistencies stick out in comparing Prometheus to Alien. They are supposed to exist in the same universe, so it's a fair comparison.
For example, why does the Xenomorph at the end emerge from the Engineer's body as a human-sized being, when we've previously seen chestbursters to hatch much smaller than that?
It's not so much about things being "unanswered" as it is them simply making one wonder why create these inconsistencies. They don't ruin the film at all for me, but they drag it down a bit.
Lindelof's fingerprints are all over this. I'm curious as to how he continues to receive high profile work. It's mostly due to his relationship with JJ Abrams. But the guy simply isn't a very good writer.
Another question - how exactly did all the Engineers die? We're led to believe that their "weapon" turned against them. That's presumably why we saw the holographic recordings of the Engineers running from something. But if we assume it was either hugely tentacled creatures or Xenomorphs, what happened to those beings?
Maybe I missed something there, but it's disappointing that the more I think about the movie the more I question. LOL, Lindelof.
For which version of ESB does the cropping take place? On the blu-rays? 2004? 1997?
Johnny Ringo said:
see you auntie said:
I had the same thoughts before I knew this, my not cast someone like Max Von Sydow, Christopher Plummer or Peter O'Toole... oh wait not him he's already in the movie, that would be weird.
why not Lance Henriksen? ;)
Why not Zoidberg?
Moonrise Kingdom
Wes Anderson at his best. Charming, wonderful movie.
I saw this today and was satisfied. Not the best sci-fi movie, but a good one. Flawed, most likely due to the script, but entertaining nonetheless.
Some people started leaving when the film faded out as Shaw was heading off the planet and leaving her message. As the final scene began, they were still walking out. I kept thinking, "Don't people want to see the whole movie?" Apparently not. These same people probably later complained that Prometheus didn't have the Xenomorphs (even if it's just at the very end).
I'm guessing that to most people in the SW universe regard the Force and its followers as many on Earth regard Scientology.
Bingowings said:
Persephone would probably be a good title.
Just put in ESB, go to an outdoor scene on Hoth, and adjust color settings until the snow goes from blue to white. :)