generalfrevious

imperialscum said:

generalfrevious said:

imperialscum said:

generalfrevious said:

imperialscum said:

Earl said:

imperialscum said:

The truth is that SW and ESB are great, while the rest is crap.

There, I fixed it for you.

Any alteration of the truth makes it untruth.

Jedi crashed the franchise less than ten years in. That’s common knowledge.

Common knowledge doesn’t necessary equal to the truth.

Like how people thought Episode I ruined Star Wars, but in reality it was already ruined sixteen years earlier? ROTJ is closer to Howard the Duck than ESB in terms of quality.

No, don’t be silly. The truth is that ROTJ is on the same level as the rest of OT.

Those shot/reverse shot angles of Luke and Ben/Leia sitting down and talking are SO visually engaging.

All the bad dialogue and boring cinematography from the prequels can be traced in a direct line to Jedi.

Still, the mid-80s were not good for Lucasfilm critically; Fist there was Jedi of course, then Temple of Doom, Howard the Duck, and maybe even Willow.

imperialscum said:

generalfrevious said:

imperialscum said:

Earl said:

imperialscum said:

The truth is that SW and ESB are great, while the rest is crap.

There, I fixed it for you.

Any alteration of the truth makes it untruth.

Jedi crashed the franchise less than ten years in. That’s common knowledge.

Common knowledge doesn’t necessary equal to the truth.

Like how people thought Episode I ruined Star Wars, but in reality it was already ruined sixteen years earlier? ROTJ is closer to Howard the Duck than ESB in terms of quality.

imperialscum said:

Earl said:

imperialscum said:

The truth is that SW and ESB are great, while the rest is crap.

There, I fixed it for you.

Any alteration of the truth makes it untruth.

Jedi crashed the franchise less than ten years in. That’s common knowledge.

LuckyGungan2001 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

generalfrevious said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

NeverarGreat said:

As if anyone ever watched Star Wars and Empire then said ‘yeah, I’m fine with this cliffhanger ending forever’

I would’ve preferred that over Death Star 2: Electric Boogaloo, Palpatine’s Saturday morning cartoon method of proselytization, the Empire’s finest troops succumbing like bitches to stone age teddy bears, and Vader’s “get-out-of-jail-free card” redemption.

All right we get it. Many people hate Jedi, like forty percent of the posts on this website are about why it’s bad. Most of the Internet knows that information by now.

I don’t hate it. I just dislike it with a steamy, romance novel passion.

And yet you gave it a six out of ten right? To me, a six out of ten means that it’s good, or at least above average.

I blame Clerks for ROTJ’s reversal of fortune.

To be fair, the PT was just Lucas remaking ROTJ three times.

CatBus said:

generalfrevious said:

It’s interesting that SW’s “glory days” lasted only three years.

As of May 24th, 1983, there were only two Star Wars films. So if you’re saying the “glory days” are the years in which only Star Wars and/or Empire existed, that’s six years (1977-1983). That’s if I understand your intent correctly. If you intended to say Empire sucked all the glory out of the franchise, then you just go right ahead saying three years.

I refer to SW & ESB as the “glory days”, so maybe it was six instead of three. What I probably meant was that it peaked after three years. It seems most hardcore SW fans only count the first two films of the franchise and nothing else; heck, TFA was literally built on elements solely from ANH & ESB.

Is Star Wars going to end up in the same category as politics and religion now?

It’s interesting that SW’s “glory days” lasted only three years.

…and there never arose a film like Empire Strikes Back in the franchise ever again…

DuracellEnergizer said:

NeverarGreat said:

As if anyone ever watched Star Wars and Empire then said ‘yeah, I’m fine with this cliffhanger ending forever’

I would’ve preferred that over Death Star 2: Electric Boogaloo, Palpatine’s Saturday morning cartoon method of proselytization, the Empire’s finest troops succumbing like bitches to stone age teddy bears, and Vader’s “get-out-of-jail-free card” redemption.

All right we get it. Many people hate Jedi, like forty percent of the posts on this website are about why it’s bad. Most of the Internet knows that information by now.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Pfft. ROTJ was never essential.

I don’t think we can ever be friends.

The OT is sacred. All three films are essential, and deserves to be available in its original form.

The PT you can skip entirely.

TFA is a strong start for disney era, but it could go either way.

Did anyone know that Apple removed the headphone jack for the iPhone 7? What a stupid, stupid, STUPID idea that is. Why not take away the microchip when you develop the iPhone 8? Or better yet, reintroduce the rotary function on the iPhone 9?

Apple is the worst tech company in existence.

TFA is a fresh start while ROTJ is a product of exhaustion. I’ll probably still be biased toward Jedi because it’s part of the OT.

Admiral Motti said:

I can’t believe there are people here who honestly think The Force Awakens was better than Return of the Jedi. ROTJ was the weakest film of the original trilogy, but it’s light years better than TFA.

TFA is light years better than anything in the prequels. It’s on the same level as a good MCU film.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

generalfrevious said:

TFA might be a better film than ROTJ, but my cognitive bias will deny that fact. Maybe Episode VIII will be better than both films, Episode IX definitely not.

How could you possibly already be making a judgment on IX lol

Have you seen Jurassic World? Disney hired Trevorrow not because of talent, but money.

TFA might be a better film than ROTJ, but my cognitive bias will deny that fact. Maybe Episode VIII will be better than both films, Episode IX definitely not.

DuracellEnergizer said:

generalfrevious said:

It’s true we will never get the originals ever again though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YYmS7NL3Po

Why should Disney give us what we have wanted for 20 years when they can milk TFA, Rouge One, Episodes 8&9, the Han Solo movie, and a third spinoff for decades to come?
There are college students today who have never seen the original versions of the OT. That scares me.
Undoing the SE and restoring the originals should be the first priority of everyone on this site. We are literally the only place on the internet that is dedicated to the real versions of the OT.

It’s true we will never get the originals ever again though.

I don’t know why I even bother going to this site:

http://whatculture.com/film/10-things-nobody-wants-to-admit-about-star-wars?rf=homepage

flametitan said:

Darth Id said:

There ya go.

Well that’s tidy, isn’t it? Flunk admitted WHSHS without wxyx even having to say “WYSHS.” You guys are like Shinji at full bio-sync with Eva-One.

Um, what? I get what you’re trying to reference, but what? Those aren’t even all that comparable.

I made the same statement as you, and everyone ridiculed me.

TV’s Frink said:

generalfrevious said:

Hitler was right!

That’s out of line. I never said that. I find that deeply offensive, and would be ashamed to ever say that statement.

yhwx said:

generalfrevious said:

Our society is so misogynist, sometimes the Taliban look progressive by comparison.

Nope.

But there is a point buried deep in your overly dramatic words.

Well, maybe a little less deep than average.

It’s a shame; there are many movies I have to deny myself seeing because the people behind the camera has either raped or molested a person in real life. This is now another one I have to force myself to avoid. And it looked like it could’ve been one of the best films of the decade 😦

http://www.pajiba.com/news_stories/nate-parker-reminds-us-yet-again-of-the-prevalence-of-rape-culture.php

Our society is so misogynist, sometimes the Taliban look progressive by comparison. I had no idea of the incessant suffering women are going through every second of every day for their entire lives. Parker is the devil incarnate and deserves the death penalty because he straight up MURDERED that woman. This film deserves to be destroyed and never see the light of day by anyone.

Who would have guessed that Birth Of A Nation (1915) would turn out to be the lesser of two evils? At least Griffith didn’t rape anyone to my knowledge, and I have no intention of seeing KKK propaganda films.

I’m just really upset about this.

Hopefully this thread will be relevant in five months, when we can talk about the franchise’s actual 40th anniversary.