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- Star Wars Rebels Recut - A Fanedit TV Series
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Toastb, I’d love to hear what you think about this potential rework of the text in the first episode.
Toastb, I’d love to hear what you think about this potential rework of the text in the first episode.
Not sure how the quality of v4 compares to v3, since I have no comparison at hand.
That’s alright! 😃
Most of the time the issues are repeated words, at the beginning of sentences/paragraphs, which should be avoided at all cost.
That’s a lot of what I’m trying to fix in the text for the V4s currently.
I would also completely remove any mentions of what characters are thinking. Intentions are debateable, since it is, as you said, on a smaller scale than clone wars, but thoughts of a character should be omitted.
This is a very good point…
Overall I do like them and I think they are needed for additional information or to explain things that might have been cut, although the writing style does not remind me of Star Wars and immediately brings me out of the immersion.
I agree here. I’d considered cutting them out but realised they could be very helpful. I think you’re correct about the writing style… my main focus is to get across the information with the size that my text is… hahaha.
Out of interest, I put your first opening into ChatGPT and told it to rephrase it in a style similar to the star wars opening crawls:
The 2nd version reads a lot more “Star Wars”-y. It does embellish quite a lot, is rather long (and should be shortened) but in my mind it sounds more like something the Clone Wars narrator would say.
This is a very interesting point that I hadn’t considered…
I think I’m going to play around with this idea. If it improves the overall immersion and feel of the edit I’m down for it! 😄
Hello, I am currently beginning to watch Rebels in a bit of a rush because I didn’t watch it and I feel like I should complete it before moving to Ahsoka. The problem is I don’t have enough time to watch all the episodes, so I think this project could be my lifeboat before Ahsoka ends! (I’m scared becasue spoilers…).
Can I have a link? Thanks for your work!
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Could I get a link? I’ve heard good things about your edit out in the wild 🙂
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Episode 3 of season 1 “Old Masters”: The audio is not in sync with the video, not sure by how much but it was a few ms behind. Had to correct it manually.
I had some time to check the audio and it seems fine to me. Are there any points in the episode where it stands out? And like I mentioned above, do you know what version and which release? 😃
Couldn’t agree more Eddie! I’ve loved the whole series so far 😄
Thanks for the feedback Toastb! I really appreciate you taking the time!
Writing the opening crawls is the element I’ve found the most challenging and every new revision I’ve tended to change or tweak them.
What have you thought about the quality of them in the V4?
I’ve tried to avoid a more grand view of what’s going on. Rebels is a much quieter and smaller scale affair then Clone Wars so I’m not sure that suggestion would suit it. But I’m always open to reworking them 😃.
When you describe the font, I’m not sure what feedback you’re giving. Were you saying you prefer Eddie’s font and setup over mine? (That’s how I’m reading it but I’m not 100% sure).
Is the audio out of sync for V4? And what are you watching 4K, 1080p recolor or 1080p? 😃
I do agree about the subtitles and that is something I will address but for now it’ll stay as that’s what my AI does. Once the whole edit is subbed I’ll think about fixing it 😃.
Episode is essential. It sets up the main antagonists of the season.
Episode is skippable but serves as the introduction to both Azmorigan and Hondo (who appear later on in important story arks).
Hi Eddie (or anyone else here with knowlegdge on the subjeect).
I am diving into the world of Star Wars fan edits.
We were quite daunted by the thought of 14 seasons of animated content between TCW, Rebels, Bad Batch, Tales of, even the live action shows on top of that with some of the filler they have. I say we haven’t watched it, truthfully we’ve both seen a few episodes here and there in passing and felt we would definitely not be able to stomach that much animated content in the writing style of the Filoni-verse.
However, we were both intrigued by the idea of movie cuts because it seems much more digestible (might take a couple weeks instead of months). I especially wanted to do this after I decided we were going to watch acbagels Mandalorian and BoBF movie cuts. Ideally I was aiming to just watch movie cuts of all the series. ((the only thing I didn’t see working was Tales of the Jedi, but its so small I didnt see it being a big deal)).
Hi Patali! I can’t speak for Eddie but I can speak as a fan and a faneditor. I would tend to avoid movie cuts for the animated shows as a first watch. I feel the movie edits work better for the live action series as they tend to follow the trend of one ark per season, the animated shows however tend to follow a few different ark’s throughout.
I’d think you’d find the most enjoyment from tv style edits such as Eddie’s as it takes the content and makes it more approachable. It cuts down drastically on the watch time and presents it in a way where if you’re not enjoying an ark, for the most part, you can skip it! This is much harder to do with the original series and difficult to do with movie style edits. On top of this for Eddie’s edit, there is a spreadsheet that covers different watch orders for what you’re interested in!
I hope this helps answer your questions 😃
I would love to see these recuts, could I possibly get a link? Thanks!
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As for the second half of the fifth episode (Princess on Lothal), I felt like it cut WAY too much and made things move WAY too fast. IMO Leia’s little introduction aboard the ship (0:46-2:00 of the original episode) was much needed, otherwise we just have a legacy character randomly popping out at the scenery; also, it’s important in-universe 'cause it shows the Empire is very tired of Alderaan meddling in their affairs, which makes them going after it on EP IV a little more believable. Also Kanan and Ezra talking to Leia before facing off against the stormtroopers (6:05-6:50 of the original) was also quite important, not only to keep the pace a little slower but to give some more background as to how Alderaan and the Senate can keep supporting anti-Empire stuff. And for last, the cut pep talk between Leia and Ezra (10:54-12:19 of the original) was a pretty sweet moment of character development for both of them, I don’t see why leaving it out.
Honestly my original intention would have been to cut this episode entirely. That’s probably why the episode moves pretty fast, hahaha. I’ll rewatch the original episode and keep an eye out for what you’ve mentioned and may include those scenes back in for V4. Thanks for the feedback Psy! 😄
As for the third episode of your season 2 edit (Pirates of the Horn), since I hadn’t watched the original episode, I admit that I was quite confused with what exactly was happening here. After seeing the original version, I really thinks v3 cut a little bit too much from the intro. Starting with Ezra and Chopper fixing the ship (1:48 of the original episode) while seeing the rest of the crew going on their mission would give us more context and a much more valid reason on why is Ezra all of a sudden kind of running away to find his own adventures.
Couldn’t agree more for the V3 version. I’m reluctant to include the beginning of this episode because all the characters are acting far too childish. A sneak peak at my V4 has a reworded text intro to make the introduction and context a bit more clear for the episode. Here’s what I’ve got currently:
Commander Rex, a Clone of the former Republic,
has joined forces with the Rebel Phoenix Cell.
Through his influence, Ezra Bridger is learning to
become an expert soldier and military tactician.
Ezra is becoming overwhelmed with his responsibilities
to the Rebellion, the Ghost Crew, the Jedi and to Rex.
Seeking a distraction from his commitments, Ezra has
taken the Phantom to investigate a distress signal.
Chopper, questioning Ezra’s motivation for answering
the signal, has secretly stowed himself on board.
After takeoff, Ezra discovered Chopper onboard….
The blue sky looks quite nice, but I’m not sure I see the difference with the lightsabers.
So the original lightsabers in the show have the color of the blade slightly bleed into the central white color. (I think this is due to how they create the lightsabers in the volume). They also can become see-through in motion. My version reinstates the pure white core and makes the outer glow closer to what you’d expect from the style of movies.
It’s a rather subtle difference and the brighter the lighting is in a shot, the more noticeable it is. For example, the lightsabers in episode 4 look how I’d expect them to but for the Corellia fight in episode 2, they do not.
Can you put the original HDR or non-DV screenshot for a proper comparison.
I’ve reworded the screenshots on the original post to make it clear which is the original screenshot from the show.
I think the saber re-work is a good idea, however, I think the middle bright white is also too bright. I like the increase in red, but I think the central white bright blade is a little too wide. Just my opinion. I do like the renewed colors though
I have noticed this also, there are some shots where it looks just right and other’s where it’s a little too big. For example, in second Marrok screenshot, I’ve already decreased the size of the white inside the blade. In general, I’ve been adjusting it as I go trying to get it feeling right! I’m starting off by basing the white proportions on what is presented in the original footage and I’ll then go back and tweak it once I’ve covered it all for the fight scene. 😃
@goob, are you going to be trimming a lot of someone moments and exposition heavy conversations? I’d say a lot should be cut but it also seems difficult to do so
I’ve definitely thought about it! At this stage I’m just focusing on the Corellia fight scene as this is helping advance my editing skills. That being said, I’m watching (and loving) the show and will likely be making cuts to whatever I decide to release in the end!
I agree with you. I was boosting the Whites of the color pallet way too much. I’ve significantly reduced that now! Thanks for the feedback 😄
I’ve also now added another screenshot to the original post which shows off the work I’m doing on Marrok’s lightsaber. In my opinion it goes from looking like a toy to a lightsaber haha.
I’ve now updated my screenshots and video to reflect the changes I’ve made since updating my source file. Thanks Smudger9, gflorese3199 and jadenkorr41! 😃
It looks like you’ve downloaded the Dolby Vision version, which has muted colours. You need to download a non-DV 4K file. There are plenty out there.
Thanks for that! All my screens have Dolby Vision and I didn’t think the show looked THIS washed out when streaming from Disney+.
I’ll get some new screen shots and update them so everyone can see the real difference.
I’ve refined the sky a bit more. I think this style takes away the green/blue screeny effect but still gives me the contrast I’m after. It’s also a better screenshot for seeing the work I’ve done on the lightsabers.
Before
After
I think the sky look very blue like that kind of makes me feel like it’s a green/blue screen imho, however the rest of the colors look great and more vibrant
I’ll keep that in mind, I might desaturate the blue a touch. Although the sky was literally that color for me the day I started this edit, so I don’t think the color is unrealistic or anything.
The main reason I’ve gone with the strong light blue is to contrast the red saber and make Ashoka white sabers more visible.
As far as I can tell that’s how the original looks… although it could be a weird HDR thing making it look more washed out on my PC.
It definitely had a bit more color when watching on my TV (but I have that set to boost saturation).
So it may not be the most reliable before? Regardless, my edit still has higher color saturation and levels of contrast then the original.
I’ve thought about cutting the scene where Sabine gets stabbed. Still have the fight but remove that goofy moment and cut to Ashoka finding Sabine injured.
I’ve thought about making a movie cut… still undecided on cuts and rearrangements for now but I’ll see how the whole series goes!
For now though I’m focused on improving the visuals.
What I’m doing:
I’m not sure if this will go anywhere as of yet but while I’ve been watching Ahsoka I felt there has been something missing… color!!! So much of the series has callbacks to the prequels in the way that it’s filmed but the incredible color pallet is missing.
Along with that I’ve noticed some lightsabers don’t look right (the orange ones look unique and great but the other sabers look off)
I’ve had a crack at bringing some much needed life into the Marrok and Ahsoka fight in episode 2 (at this stage I’ve only got 17 seconds of footage). I’ve heard some people criticise it but I feel the choreography is mostly there it just needs some visual impact! That’s why I’ve started at this fight scene.
I’m wanting to get some feedback as I’ve never attempted any visual edits to this degree.
The footage:
https://youtu.be/g0WCSU-myio
Changes So Far:
For those not interested in watching the video here is a before and after shot.
Original
My Version
Original
My Version
Original
My Version
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Is it still possible to get a link to the fanedit episodes, please?
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