Here's something that stood out for me in two linked frames TServo2049 posted
There seems to be a greater depth of blue in these scenes (which coincidentally(?) are next to each other in the film) which seems to have drained out to somewhere. Am I seeing this correctly?
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Sorry -1, I have had trouble with formatting posts in the message board since I got a new laptop/system but I found a work round now to post images
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TServo2049 said:
This isn't from the 1982 laserdisc or U.S. rental release. It's from a PAL video - the 80s PAL transfer was sort of different (for example, it had a squeezed crawl and flyover).
Oh I see sorry I jumped in a bit quick there! I agree with you that I think these early 80s releases have more of the original colours left in them. Its tricky trying to work out how much is still there and what exactly is off in each release..
EDIT Here are some frames of the adjusted LD where I think it starts to get close to some of the film cells you posted (other times its way out)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8zfdw8&s=5 see repost below
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=24eqse0&s=5 ""
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=faveh4&s=5 ""
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=so4tpe&s=5 ""
This is interesting to me - I've been trying to adjust the 1982 Laserdisc and have gone in a totally different direction (!). The 82 Laserdisc is very different than the 82 Rental VHS colour wise (Based on comparison between the preservations of them done by Starkiller)
Original 82 LD:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2afzm7o&s=5 /see repost below
My adjusted settings through VLC:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=519afr&s=5 /see repost below
Leia Original:
VLC adjust:
feel free to correct, and post results.
later
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Hey -1, I agree with the other posters that I would be happy to watch this capture of star wars 'raw' just because theres so much saturation left in the print. Through my monitor (and in part I'm guessing due to the reduction business) the frames have a red 'burnished' look...
Edit* I tried some color correction but realized just enlarging the frames and maybe doing auto-white balance is enough for me.
Wow, I really like the saturation of colours looking at Han Solos face in the ITV broadcast - this is definitely not a washed out print it seems. Have you done a capture of the whole film?
I suspect this has no practical use for your project whatsoever but you might enjoy a comparison shot with the 82 FS LD while you wait on a more practical reply:
The way I see it is some of these subjective areas re content/ volume/ suitability of posts could be solved if there was a way to have threads appear as updated without pushing them to the top of the pile each time.
This way once a viewer determines whether a certain thread appeals to them or not they can just skip it but the poster themselves can keep going with their thread/project out of the 'front line' if they want
This could maybe be done with more sub-cateogries if people felt that was needed...
g-force said:
Harmy said:
corellian77 said:
I know you said you're waiting on more reference frames Harmy, but are the Death Star's walls in that first Despecialized Edition v2.0 shot likely to stay that colour? Just curious, as they really seem too cyan, especially compared to the GOUT and the other DeEd shots.
I'll see about that depending on what the reference will show but you can't compare it to the GOUT, which is seriously desaturated.
The cyan color of the walls is more correct. Once Harmy gets his reference shots, I bet they will be even more cyan (more saturated) than in his pics.
I get this result for the walls with the settings I use on the 82 LD in VLC:
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Well despite the extremely unlikely prospect that a retro fullscreen/analog revival kicks in sometime in the future, I did find I could dig better colors out of another source, which was the Starkiller 82 Preservation, again it degraded the image but again working with original raw captures of the source laserdisc might yield a more pleasing result (or maybe not). Also someone who understood working color correction programs properly might get a more refined result.
The point for me was to try find the least red-shift damaged digitized/digitizable source and see what came out through color correction...
Original
Correction
Also it looks like a digitized VHS would require hardly any color correction at all - just less brightness and a touch more contrast or whatever
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=167p8vq&s=5
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