frank678

Going by the box held up in this video (90 or 92 version?) it seems the clips within match more or less the 82 version (albeit slightly different cropping?) when I played this much-appreciated-to-have(!) preservation alongside -

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJklY0eRBeE

If I can veer off topic for just a second...

Can anyone comment on whether the NTSC pan and scan VHS versions from 1990 and 1992 are from the same source (and/or if any additional processing was done for those releases)

I'm mainly interested in whether the colours would therefore be the same for pan and scan vhs tapes from 1982 up to 1993.

Thank you very much for this preservation. I havn't had chance to watch the whole thing yet but skipping through this looks a much crisper/detailed and colour-rich capture to the Starkiller preservation. Because of those qualities in combination theres a much better depth of field. For example in this frame you get a much better sense of the length of the corridor (I think) whereas other captures look much flatter

You've also miraculously managed to salvage a nice 'texture' from the VHS (I don't really know how to describe it properly other than to say it looks less 'blobby' and less 'in the way' than VHS usually looks). Great salvage job!

One (possibly) unique thing about this print is it seems to be one of the few that is still holding on to a fraction of the deep blues and greens which seem to have been originally there in this scene:

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Technidisc with instructions for VLC settings 

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Wow although I prefer the understated naturalness of the first script - the second really does achieve that golden 1970s look. The 1970s look would be the version that I would want to see first. Both palettes far superior to the original Blu Ray again. Its good to see how much of the heavy redness of the original Blu Ray can be reduced.

Thanks for posting up these screenshots!

msycamore said:

Baronlando said:

frank678 said:

Looking at the comparison shots between the GOUT and Technidisc, the GOUT looks almost like its been bleached. Is this a combination of fade and DVNR or are there other factors involved?

I was wondering if that source was turning yellow and then correcting that ended up making it kind of blah?

My DVD transfers poor white balance also contributes to making it look more yellow than the actual LD really is. I actually think the elements used was turning pink/red at this point, the telecine operator may have tried to counter this with a bit of yellow and green.

 

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Here are a couple of frames from the 1992 VHS

 

If you scroll back to You_Too's Technidisc/Gout comparisons of these two shots the VHS frames seems to fall exactly inbetween the two. It hasnt got the yellow saturation of the Technidisc (ignoring what the capture distorted for one second) but it hasnt turned as pink/red as Gout.

This is how the 1992 VHS looks on a TV screen (taken with the camera on a mobile phone) followed by how it looks from video to computer to give you an idea of the transfer change.

 

 

 

I bought this 1992 vhs version from a charity shop: http://swonvideo.com/vhs/vvhs1992anh.htm

It seems to match the Technidisc in some ways. My guess is that if the playback equipment/capture method were equalized they would possibly look to stem from the same master. Of course the vhs has none of the information depth of the Technidisc.

The greedo subs were in the bottom black bar not over the image in this release.

On my *uncalibrated* monitor it looks a touch too yellow in places. I don't know if that holds true objectively. Otherwise I can see its a massive improvement over the original !

 

If you can ignore artifacts of additional processing I think the Technidisc is awesome!

AWESOME! I TELLS YA! SO MUCH POTENTIAL/INFORMATION FOR COLOUR TWEAKING!

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This is how a 0.16 sharpen in image adjust in vlc changes the technidisc. This probably

a crude technique to use but I think it shows off how much information the technidisc has in it a bit further.

Looking at the comparison shots between the GOUT and Technidisc, the GOUT looks almost like its been bleached. Is this a combination of fade and DVNR or are there other factors involved?

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