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#1259775
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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The only movies where Abrams was involved that I truly enjoyed are Armageddon (he was a scriptwriter IIRC) and Cloverfield (producer), apart from that there isn’t a single movie directed by him that I like (Mission: Impossible 3 is my least favourite of the MI movies).

I honestly don’t understand why J.J. Abrams is so highly regarded, and when Anakin Starkiller said he’s great at imitating others’ style, well yeah, he sure does imitate, but his imitations do nothing for me.

Maybe I’m immune to the J.J. Kool-aid, and while everyone else is celebrating his helming Episode IX, the very announcement of his return killed all my interest in the movie, and I will only watch it to see how it ends, which in all likelihood will be a total fuck-up but everyone will rejoice and praise Abrams for “fixing” the ST. sigh

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#1259156
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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RogueLeader said:

The New Republic did have a Fleet, but a large chunk of their fleet were stationed at Hosnian Prime. I’m sure some New Republic forces exist throughout the galaxy but they’re all spread thin. So by destroying Hosnian Prime, it would be like if the attack at Pearl Harbor had destroyed the carriers and oil facilities like the Japanese had hoped for. It would have been a major setback for the United States.

At this time, I think the New Republic relied on the defense forces of their member worlds to be called to action in a situation where a large defense force was necessary. I believe the NR’s primary defense fleet was large enough to handle any large scale conflicts itself, but I imagine in this time they only dealt with intervening skirmishes involving their members, or fighting off pirates/criminals.

The New Republic demilitarizing to me wasn’t about having no military, but downsizing their military to pre-Clone War levels. Basically to the scale that the Republic Navy was at probably for most of its history. Many people didn’t want a large national military so the central government wouldn’t have too much power over its member worlds, leading to an abuse of power that led to the Empire in the first place.

I also like to think that between ROTJ and TFA, the New Republic did deal with some Imperial holdouts, but their threat to the Republic was small enough for their Fleet, and units like Rogue/Wraith Squadron from the EU, to take care of. While not really necessary, this would also help explain why they never consider an Imperial resurgence a major threat.

But we do know that First Order sympathizers within the Senate did help downplay the threat of the First Order enough to make the majority of the Republic feel like a large-scale intervention wouldn’t be necessary. And it did seem the First Order kept hidden enough to help with that narrative.

But once the First Order destroyed the Defense Fleet and the Senate in one move, it was basically cutting off the head of the Republic. The member worlds no longer had any leadership or unity. Maybe under some common leadership they could’ve held back the First Order, but without it they’re all probably bunkering down in an attempt to defend their own worlds. It’s a very precise divide and conquer-like strategy, a strategy which smaller armies can use to defeat forces larger than itself.

So my guess for the First Order’s strategy (which they’ve had 30 years to perfect) could be to occupy planets at important hyperspace junctures, thereby having control of trade and the galactic economy within a month or two.

Which in my mind is why Leia’s survival in TLJ was so important. She might be the last figure that can truly unite what is left of any resistance in the galaxy together, which we will hopefully see in Episode IX.

I like your explanation RogueLeader, but I’m left with one final question. Where the hell does the FO get all its money from? Because doing business with them is a surefire way to get Canto Bight levels of wealth. Imperial credits shouldn’t be an accepted form of currency in the NR. Do the Unknown Regions have an abundance of precious minerals that are highly coveted throughout the Galaxy?

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#1259141
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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Yeah but it’s made clear the FO took over the Galaxy in just one week or so. Couldn’t a galaxy spanning government come up with a decent military budget for defence and protection? Did all systems meekly surrender without a fight? Or the NR is completely devoid of any armed forces? IDK, just can’t wrap my head around that.

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#1259132
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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Setting aside my love for TLJ, I must say the movie contains what is IMO the most problematic line of dialogue in the ST, which is: “Selling weapons to the First Order”. Is Rose really telling us that the New Republic is run by a bunch of paupers who can’t afford shit? Even then I called bullshit.

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#1258847
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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I’m not saying Anakin should have breezed through the prequels using the Force without breaking a sweat, Force Unleashed style, but when under great stress, he would do mind-blowing stuff with the Force, however this would have its drawbacks. It’s been established that exerting your Force powers too much could be potentially lethal, and we see Luke being physically drained from the effort of doing more elaborate things when training with Yoda in TESB, so why not have Anakin passing out after an amazing display? Just throwing ideas around.

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#1258580
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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic General Discussion thread (KotOR, KotOR II)
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preussischblau said:

How do you guys like to play KOTOR I?

  • Dark Side or Light Side?
  • Batila romance?
  • Major decisions?

I like to play Dark Side, but when going Manaan I always choose to destroy the Kolto processing plant, as killing the giant Firaxan shark would mean destroying the source of Kolto supplies, and one must have foresight and plan for the future. I tend to leave Zaalbar’s subplot unresolved as the problems of the Wookiees are ultimately irrelevant to the Galaxy. I always romance Bastilla and take up her offer to reclaim the title of Dark Lord of the Sith. The prospect of conquering the Galaxy with a pretty Force wielder as your lover is too good to pass up, plus I think the Dark Side ending makes a lot more sense, because in my mind Revan would have decided the Jedi are no better than the Sith after being manipulated by the Jedi throughout the game.

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#1258574
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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Since many of you have discussed how Rey is so OP in the Force I’d like to say you know which character should have been portrayed as having Rey’s talents with the Force? Anakin Skywalker.

Think about it. Throughout the OT both Obi-Wan and Yoda talk about how strong Anakin was with the Force, but once the prequels were done we never actually saw him do anything particularly impressive with the Force. All we see him do is move stuff around and do pretty ordinary stuff with the Force. Anakin should have been the one shown doing all the things Rey does without breaking a sweat, like instinctively Force pushing enemies to defend himself, or telekinetically pulling a lightsaber towards his hand and instantly knowing how to wield it, much like Rey does in TFA.

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#1258131
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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I also forgot to mention.

I didn’t like Snoke as leader of the First Order. Why are the descendants of the Empire being led by some random Force wielder with no previous ties to the Empire? The First Order should have been led by a council of former Imperials, be they high ranking generals and politicians. If they wanted to have Snoke at all it should have been as an advisor of sorts, representing the mystical aspects of the First Order in addition to being Kylo Ren’s Dark Side mentor.

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#1258121
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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screams in the void said:

while I do believe a movie should stand on it’s own , there is a 30 year gap between the OT and the ST .A lot can happen in that time . The Novel Bloodline by Claudia Gray goes a long way to explain how the First Order was funded . It also deals with the reaction of the New Republic after Leia is finally outed as the daughter of Darth Vader …http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodline_(novel)

Yeah, I read all about it. I still call bullshit on the FO’s rise to power.

I posted on a different thread that the First Order should have been portrayed as employing guerilla warfare, espionage which would encompass infiltration, sleeper agents and what have you, conquering seemingly unimportant worlds, using Imperial technology derived from unused prototypes (the dreadnought at the beginning of TLJ could have been used as a sort of ghost ship that strikes from the shadows). You get the point.

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#1258093
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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I must admit Rey being super-duper strong in the Force doesn’t bother me as much as her being skilled at pretty much everything, being a mechanical engineering genius with intricate knowledge of all types of spaceships, an expert pilot, an accomplished marksman by simply grabbing a blaster and so on and so forth.

But the thing that really bothers me about the ST is the First Order being so goddamn powerful and wealthy despite being a fraction of the Empire, and it only takes about a week to regain control of the Galaxy.

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#1257776
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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JokerRulez said:

Here’s the HUGE gamble Disney is making:

fmalover said:

Right now, the only thing I’m really looking forward to regarding Star Wars is Rian Johnson’s SW Trilogy, after all Johnson has earned my full trust with TLJ. I wish I could say I’m looking forward to The Mandalorian, but I don’t have Disney+.

Can anyone create a whole new SW experience that is still , … well, Star Wars?

There is no guarantee of success. Will mediocrity be enough? It’s the only way the film franchise can continue long-term so they’ll invest hugely in this while exploiting all other avenues to milk the franchise (TV, theme parks, comics, etc.).

Oh, in my opinion Rian Johnson is the wrong guy to do this next piece of work given the divisive reaction to his only entry. Need a uniter rather than someone always looking to subvert expectations.

JokerRulez

I don’t get why TLJ is so divisive.

TFA was such a huge letdown I had no expectations in regards to the following episode, and in fact I fully expected TLJ to be a remake of TESB in the same way TFA is a remake of the first SW. Once a friend confirmed it wasn’t like that I was genuinely excited, went to see the movie, and once the credits started rolling, left the cinema with a sense of euphoria.

I don’t think Johnson was trying to subvert expectations, he was trying to come up with the best story he could write and direct, which he did brilliantly.

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#1257565
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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Since you’re all on the subject of the massive PR campaign to assure fans that TFA was nothing like the prequels, I also remember how the crew was constantly telling everyone about the return to real sets and practical effects, and then a few months after the theatrical release of TFA, ILM released a video on YouTube revealing they employed waaay more CGI than originally thought. I also remember how J.J. Abrams wouldn’t shut up about how they were shooting on film, going so far as to use the exact same type of film stock used for the first SW movie, which is a moot point when I looked up and discovered the movie was processed through digital intermediates, which is IMO cheating. What’s the fucking point of going through all the trouble of using this specific type of film stock if you’re using DIs instead of revealing the film photochemically?

Also, Simon Pegg strikes me as a major hypocrite, openly shitting on the prequels all these years only to happily appear in the derivative piece of work that is TFA.

I sometimes feel selling Lucasfilm to Disney was a mistake. Lucasfilm should have been acquired by WarnerMedia (then Time Warner) or Universal Pictures, because I find the franchise is becoming increasingly tame under Disney’s ownership (Rogue One and TLJ being the only notable exceptions). Take The Clone Wars for instance, you frequently saw characters being stabbed through the torso by lightsabers, fast forward to Star Wars Rebels and most character deaths would immediately cut to a reaction shot.

As JokerRulez has brilliantly pointed out, Disney is currently milking the OT. This is made evident by the fact that so far all of the Disney-era SW expanded material has focused on every little detail of the OT, from the many hours Leia spent braiding her hair between missions to the whatever Luke did in his spare time in the days after the Battle of Yavin.

Right now, the only thing I’m really looking forward to regarding Star Wars is Rian Johnson’s SW Trilogy, after all Johnson has earned my full trust with TLJ. I wish I could say I’m looking forward to The Mandalorian, but I don’t have Disney+.

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#1257400
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Help with Guy Ritchie's Snatch
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About 14 years ago I remember TV channels broadcast for a time a version of the movie that looked very different from the one we all know, which has a cool green tint and is in fact the version used for the Blu-ray. This particular version of the movie had much higher contrast and a warmer colour palette, and I suspect it’s closer to what 35mm release prints looked like.

My question is: Is it possible to find this version of the movie?

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#1257012
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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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The Star Wars franchise has been inconsistent in their portrayal of Dark Side corruption.

In the OT the only instances of Dark Side corruption are Vader and the Emperor, with both having very pale skin, and in the Emperor’s case in particular, yellow eyes. Later we meet Darth Maul, who has the yellow eyes characteristic of the Dark Side, but retained his youthful appearance throughout the twenty years leading up to the Battle of Yavin. Count Dooku shows no signs of Dark Side corruption implying his fall to the dark side has been relatively recent or he doesn’t draw from the Dark Side as much as others do. ROTS really screws up the whole notion of Dark Side corruption by revealing the reason Palpatine looks the way he does in the OT is because of Mace Windu deflecting the Force lightning back at him (I always assumed it was because of his many years immersed in the Dark Side), and finally we have Anakin Skywalker whose eyes only turn yellow when he’s really angry or something. Finally we have Snoke and Kylo Ren, with Snoke looking very old and decrepit but doesn’t have yellow eyes even though he’s established to be a longtime practitioner of the Dark Side, and Kylo Ren who been a Dark Side practitioner for at least ten years yet doesn’t show the slightest hint of Dark Side corruption.

This franchise seriously can’t make up its mind regarding the whole dark side corruption subject.

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#1256849
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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DuracellEnergizer said:

DrDre said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

Luke using the dark side to choke out the guards at Jabba’s palace.

Actually, this is one of the tidbits of ROTJ I do still like. It’s morally gray stuff like that the film needed much more of.

But who is Darth Henrietta? The Emperor?

Yeah. With the makeup, cackling, and aerodynamics, ROTS Palpatine brings to mind Henrietta from Evil Dead II.

Supposedly, it was done to make audiences unsure of whether or not Luke would become like his father, or stay on the good side. If that’s the reason, that’s cool.
But still, I thought that once you start down the path of the dark side, forever it will consumes you.
If he’s using the dark side of the Force, he must have been practicing it to some degree. And it’s like, why would he do that? How can you pick and choose when you’re going to use the dark side, and still not become evil?
And I thought the Force was only for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

The Jedi interpretation of the Force is just that — an interpretation. Just because they view the Force through some quasi-Objectivist framework which recognizes no shades of gray doesn’t mean the Force is truly like that.

The greatest failure of the SW films — and the franchise as a whole, really — is this idea that the Jedi have the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth on the Force and that any path differing from theirs is deficient.

I disagree. It is Lucas who invented this universe and its rules. He deliberately opted to introduce the concept of the Force and a dark side, a universe without many shades of grey. It is not a fault, it is part of its identity. I don’t see why the Star Wars universe should be made to conform to our own real world sense of morality. In my view this weakens the mythology.

I guess you could say this is among the top 3 reasons why I’m a lapsed Star Wars fan. Not only do I no longer believe in its fundamental worldview, I find that worldview utterly repugnant.

You’re a Kreia fan for sure.

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#1256362
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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IMO Disney’s biggest mistake when acquiring Lucasfilm was shutting down their videogame division LucasArts, and then giving EA exclusive licence to make SW games. That’s wrong on so many levels.

I prefer the older model where LucasArts commissioned the SW licence to a game company and they handled the publishing and distribution of whatever game was produced. Sure, it wasn’t perfect, but I think it’s way better than what we have now.

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#1256087
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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic General Discussion thread (KotOR, KotOR II)
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  • What I don’t like about the first KotOR is that the skills points distribution is far too limited unless you’re playing Scoundrel, a problem that was fixed in the following game.

  • I have a problem with the way the influence system is set up in KotOR II. Wether you choose to accumulate positive or negative influence with your companions the end result is the same, which is: they tell you more about themselves and in some cases you can eventually train them in the ways of the Force. That doesn’t make any sense to me. Look at it this way: I dislike you so much that I will now tell you more about myself, and eventually, I hate you so much that now I want you to train me in the ways of the Force. Huh? No relationship works like that. It’s why, whenever I play KotOR II I always make sure their moral alignment reflects mine, even if means unwanted dark side/light side points depending on which path I’m setting for my character, plus it adds another layer to my character, as I’m basically manipulating some companions into ditching their own convictions and start to see things my way, which I’m sure Kreia would very much appreciate.

  • Now the one thing I don’t like about both games is how the dark side transitions look like. You’ve been barely immersing yourself in the Dark Side for a few months at most within the games’ timeline and already you look like a decrepit corpse. I always install a mod in the first KotOR game where only my character’s eyes turn yellow, but when you’re on the path to the Dark Side in the second game many characters will comment on your change in appearance, so I keep the DS transitions as they are, but I still think they are too extreme, with your eyes, hair and skin turning grey. The only Dark Side transitions that were done right IMO are Bao-Dur, Handmaiden and Mira, with Bao-Dur having facial tattoos similar to Darth Maul, Handmaiden wearing black clothing and dark make-up, and Mira’s hair turning a darker shade of auburn, her skin turning pale with visible veins and dark make-up in addition to the characteristic yellow eyes. Atton and Disciple on the other hand look far too decrepit. Maybe I should join the Deadly Stream forums and suggest something along those lines.

Those are all my major complaints about the games.