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Spartacus01 said:

In retrospect, I think that the best thing that Lucas could have done was keeping Lucasfilm away from Disney and maintaining it as an independent company, but still retiring to private life and putting someone else in charge of Lucasfilm, possibly not Dave Filoni.

In that scenario I fear Lucasfilm would have turned into Filoni’s fanfiction playground. I’m glad we aren’t living in that world.

George Lucas is an ideas man first and foremost who needs people who challenge him creatively so he can polish and refine them, otherwise an unchecked Lucas results in stuff like the Prequel trilogy.

Tobar said:

Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979)

It’s been decades since I first saw this film and this was my first time watching the Director’s Cut(4K). A fun film to pick up after doing a run of the Original Series. Though slows down a bit too much toward the end. The changes in the DC are a bit of a mixed bag. All of the changes done early in the San Francisco section are very poorly executed. Whereas the changes done in the V’ger section do a lot to add to the film and the atmosphere it’s building.

I’ve seen many refer to it as “the Slow Motion Picture”.

Tobar said:

My apparently unpopular opinion judging by past reactions:

I think they should have used Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors in Shadows of the Empire instead of creating Dash Rendar and Leebo. Kyle and Jan were already mercenaries working for the Rebellion with big accomplishments under their belts and they were active during that period. Instead we got a Han Solo wannabe that was as interesting as a slice of bread.

I always liked Dash Rendar, and Jon Knoles gave the best description of what differentiates him from Han Solo, that Han ultimately isn’t as tough as he appears whereas Dash is the really rough guy.

Despite its detractors, the Canto Bight casino felt much more like a part of the SW universe than any other attempt Disney has made at replicating the OT look.

There, I said it.

Z6PO said:

Leigh Brackett was a Hollywood legend, she was very ill when writing for Lucas (she passed away soon after IIRC), so as an hommage to a great lady, her name was kept in the credits even if none of her writing was used.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Channel72 said:

fmalover said:

Channel72 said:

Gandalf the Cyan said:

I can give Lucas a bit of slack for the lucklusterness of the PT and ROTJ, since he was ultimately just trying to make pulpy Flash Gordon-esque adventures, not high-art movies. ANH and ESB, however, were so good that they’re generally considered to have entered into the realm of high art. He then fell into a trap where his subsequent films were expected to be masterpieces as well, and I agree that he could have definitely done better on them. But since he really knocked it out of the park on his first 2 SW films, fans’ expectations were higher than his.

I don’t think this opinion is too unpopular, especially around this forum. ESB especially came out amazingly good, but went over budget and probably gave Lucas ulcers from the stress. He probably never intended to make Star Wars that good - but it ended up being that good anyway due to “lightning in a bottle” factors like Kasdan’s script, Kershner’s direction, and the natural chemistry between Hamill, Fisher and Ford.

Why does everyone ignore the fact that TESB was co-written by Leigh Brackett? They always make it seem like Lawrence Kasdan was the sole screenwriter.

Well, I definitely don’t ignore that. In fact, I posted a whole thread about Brackett’s screenplay a while back. But the reality is that close to 0% of Brackett’s draft made it into the final shooting script, so her role is often glossed over for the sake of brevity when discussing the development process of ESB.

In fact, I wouldn’t even necessarily say Brackett “co-wrote” ESB. That implies a collaboration between Brackett and Kasdan. In reality, Brackett independently wrote a completely different take on ESB based on Lucas’ plot outline. Lucas then rewrote the script from scratch apparently. It’s hard to say how many ideas in Lucas’ rewrite originated with Brackett. At face value, the later Kasdan scripts (which were based on Lucas’ rewrite) appear to be completely independent from Brackett.

Personally, I believe that elements of Brackett’s draft influenced the way Kasdan/Lucas thought about the story as they developed it. But that’s just my own speculation. The broad story elements - the plot, the locations, even some specific things like Luke being attacked by a snow monster - originated from Lucas’ plot outline, not Brackett’s draft. So it’s tough to identify specific ideas in the final script that unambiguously originated with Brackett. But going by Kasdan’s fourth draft and the final shooting script, pretty much 0% of Brackett’s original writing or dialogue carried over into later iterations.

So Brackett was credited as a screenwriter as an acknoledgement of her involvement?

When I read the news it felt as if a friend died.

Channel72 said:

Gandalf the Cyan said:

I can give Lucas a bit of slack for the lucklusterness of the PT and ROTJ, since he was ultimately just trying to make pulpy Flash Gordon-esque adventures, not high-art movies. ANH and ESB, however, were so good that they’re generally considered to have entered into the realm of high art. He then fell into a trap where his subsequent films were expected to be masterpieces as well, and I agree that he could have definitely done better on them. But since he really knocked it out of the park on his first 2 SW films, fans’ expectations were higher than his.

I don’t think this opinion is too unpopular, especially around this forum. ESB especially came out amazingly good, but went over budget and probably gave Lucas ulcers from the stress. He probably never intended to make Star Wars that good - but it ended up being that good anyway due to “lightning in a bottle” factors like Kasdan’s script, Kershner’s direction, and the natural chemistry between Hamill, Fisher and Ford.

Why does everyone ignore the fact that TESB was co-written by Leigh Brackett? They always make it seem like Lawrence Kasdan was the sole screenwriter.

All I know is that I want a Dune adaptation that finally delivers a book-accurate Emperor Shaddam IV.

No, the DNR-AI 2.0 version is not official.

Spartacus01 said:

Personally, I think that it’s way more fun to fill in the blanks with your own imagination than having TV shows, books and comics before, between, and after the movies. Using your own imagination to imagine what happened between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith is way more fun than watching The Clone Wars, or reading the Clone Wars Multimedia Project. Using your own imagination to imagine what happened in the Old Republic era is much more fun than playing Knights of the Old Republic, or playing the Old Republic MMO. Using your own imagination to imagine Luke’s future adventures after Return of the Jedi is way more fun than reading the EU, or watching the Sequels.

I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion.

Yes, they are. ROTJ was shot largely in California, the Tatooine scenes in the Mojave desert and the Endor scenes in the Redwood National Park.

Channel72 said:

A Wookie Jedi? Man, I feel like it would be a real struggle to depict such a thing in live action and avoid having it look really stupid. I mean a giant Yeti with a lightsaber is hard to pull off in a non-comedic way.

How so?

Carl Weathers.

If there’s one Special Edition Trilogy change I could keep in the OT, it would be the extra shots of the Wampa in TESB. I never liked the fact that we never get a clear look at the Wampa, only brief glimpses. Another thing I like is that it’s a guy in a costume, a practical effect, so it blends well with the rest of the movie.

JadedSkywalker said:

Anakin’s sudden turn makes no sense.

This one statement reminded me of what Plinkett says in his review of ROTS, that all we end up learning is that Anakin is just a crazy violent person who needs to be locked up in a mental institution.

McDonald’s for the fries, Burger King for the burgers.

JadedSkywalker said:

I didn’t like Mando it didn’t feel like Star Wars to me. Good show and enjoyable but it feels like Star Wars adjacent, but so very far away. Its more like one of those old EU things that wasn’t a part of the main story, like one of those books on the Bounty Hunters. or the criminal underworld in one of the anthology books. You know like a show that happens and exists in that world but doesn’t have Skywalker’s Jedi or Sith. At least until Luke showed up,lol.

The show i want will never be made the Luke Skywalker series set in between Return of the Jedi and Last Jedi. Now that Rey is going to rebuild the order Luke’s story purpose is redundant and unnecessary, so too expensive to deepfake Hamill for a series and no reason to.

Honestly I don’t like how they started to tie The Mandalorian to mainline SW characters. It severly shrinks the Galaxy.

About the whole “leftist agenda”. Just gonna leave this right here.

https://www.cracked.com/blog/why-corporations-love-making-movies-about-evil-corporations

Jurassic Park. That’s the one that marked the start of my love for movies.

CloakedDragon97 said:

I just watched Close Encounters of the Third Kind for the first time. Better practical effects than the original Star Wars trilogy. There I said it.

Douglas Trumbull was the special effects supervisor. Of course the practical effects would look great! He was the master of practical effects.

Wait, did I miss something? Is this project no longer being done?

JadedSkywalker said:

CourtlyHades296 said:

It is wrong to assume that your digital movies will be preserved by the studios, who recently cancelled films as tax write-offs and deleted films from digital collections. The only way to legally own a film is through physical media.

Disney erased Willow tv series from their service. Its never going to be officially on Blu-Ray either, they’ve only encouraged piracy.

It’s weird that sometimes piracy becomes the most effective means of preservation.

Spartacus01 said:

What I’m about to say might sound like a joke, but I’m serious.

If they will ever make an official “What if” animated episode (or movie) where Anakin doesn’t fall to the Dark Side and manages to live a happy life with Padmé, THAT will become the Canon version in my head. I will ignore Revenge of the Sith and subsequent works forever. Period.

I don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion though…

You’re proposing a scenario in which Anakin goes through with Padme’s proposal of running off to live a quiet life away from all the Galaxy’s conflicts raising a family.