fishmanlee

Just curious, what is the source of this "official" version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Xa6CcShAI

How do you plan to resolve the Republic looking kinda stupid using the Clones made off of Boba (who is working for Dooku in the theatrical)?

Just curious, what happens to the Boba Fett/Geonosis story?

John Williams' son Joseph Williams composed the Jabba's Palace Source music, Joseph Williams also sang for the band Toto.

How so (aside being centered around deleted scenes)?

I just like the structure, thats all.

Well, the whole thing was inspired by the LOTR EE DVD's so I am trying to emulate them structurally as close as possible, while adapting the format to being Star Wars-y.

DominicCobb said:

Are you restoring the deleted scenes at all? Dropping the quality of the film at all?

Why are you splitting the movie in two? How long is it?

1: I am recoloring them to match the GOUT

2: I don't think I will.

3: Because I like the LOTR trilogy disc splits, it gives a nice intermission structure IMHO, and I am trying to emulate the LOTR EE DVD structure as close as possible while still feeling Star Wars-y.

4: I don't exactly know, right know I would guess each disc is at least an hour long?

darth_ender said:

I will say, however, that if you are wanting to use the human Jabba in Bay 94, it seems there is no problem in showing the shouting woman with no speeder to shout at.  They would both have incomplete effects.

 Well, the reason I am using human Jabba is for the clean audio track (no music), so the composer can write new music for the scene instead of the tracked music from ROTJ.

While I have been waiting for the edit to be scored, I have been working on menus, covers etc. I figure this would be a good time to post them.

This is what the main menu looks like right now:


Obviously its supposed to look like an opening crawl.

These are the "The story continues on Disc 2" and "Continue Film" cards:





I have posted the first drafts of my DVD covers for the edit here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-DVD-Covers/post/704382/#TopicPost704382

Just a few ideas I threw together for covers for my SW EE edit:

Thanks for the info, I'll talk to him! :)

Also, Jabba scene is in, but the SW Begins version (as to avoid the Jabba theme temp track), unfortunately the end of the footage I have cuts off a bit short...

and no angry Anchorhead lady, unless I can find a way to satisfyingly pull off the Landspeeder effects (I'll either go CG, or try to green screen a die cast model lol)

Just wondering, how much footage was there in the ebook? I was only able to get ahold of what was put on youtube..

Yep.

DominicCobb said:

fishmanlee said:

So, with the release of the deleted scenes on the Blu-Ray I figured it was time to start this edit.

 But they released those scenes three years ago?

 Correct.

I have been planning to do this edit since then.

EDIT:

Forgot to mention that I will be restoring the score to Dianoga scene.

So, with the release of the deleted scenes on the Blu-Ray a while back I figured it was time to start this edit.

The plan is to split the edit on two “discs” in the style of the LOTR extended DVD’s

I have finished integrating the footage into the film, and have sent a cut to a composer for scoring.

Preview clip (music and mix is a placeholder):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9c0U2TDRsRnktb2c/edit?usp=sharing

bkev said:

I hope you know what you're doing.

 "Yeah, me too."

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24371

Ludwig, on 30 Apr 2014 - 11:27 PM, said:

I just recently purchased a copy of the book The Making of Star Wars, and it gives evidence that busts, or at least seriously questions, some of the persistent beliefs about the soundtrack to the original Star Wars film. And yet, at the same time, the detail isn't quite enough to completely wipe out these beliefs are pure myths. Not quite. Here are three that certainly deserve discussion here, amongst we JWFans.

1) The conversation in which Williams supposedly convinced Lucas to use an original score rather than a compilation of classical works a la 2001: A Space Odyssey. This one is especially suspicious. On p. 99, the book's author J.W. Rinzler quotes Lucas saying

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I really knew the kind of sound I wanted. I knew I wanted an old-fashioned, romantic movie score, and I knew he was very good with large orchestras.

Rinzler also says that when Lucas was dropping in regularly on post-production of Jaws,

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unusually for most directors, but standard to Lucas, he had already been thinking about the soundtrack for The Star Wars, and was leaning toward a classical, romantic one. Spielberg suggested the fellow who had just finished composing the soundtrack for Jaws; Lucas got to hear some of it and was impressed.

So it seems that Lucas was never interested in a compilation score. That said, Audissino in his new book on Williams on p. 71 claims that

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[Lucas] resolved that [Star Wars] should have an extensive musical coverage and, according to various sources, planned to have the music track made of preexisting symphonic selections, or at least to use preexisting themes arranged as leitmotivs for the film.

He backs this up with several sources in a footnote, as he says. But in that same footnote, he says

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But on the other hand, when interviewed by Leonard Maltin, Lucas said that he had always had the idea of having an original score--The Empire Strikes Back, VHS, Fox, 1995. However, 2001 was an influential model and Lucas had already used a compilation score for American Graffiti; in the liner notes for the 1977 album Williams wrote that Lucas originally wanted repertoire music, and Lucas, being the album producer, accepted at that time Williams's statement as true. So, it seems quite probable that Lucas's original idea was to use repertoire music as the film's main themes. [Boldface added]

While I greatly admire Audissino's book, on this point, I'd respectfully disagree. It's not impossible that Lucas is rewriting history by changing what he originally said, but considering his very early search for a composer who could write in a more classical manner, it seems very unlikely. As for the conversation between Williams and Lucas that supposedly changed the latter's mind, here is what Williams said (quoted on p. 265 of The Making of Star Wars:

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I didn't want to hear a piece of Dvo?ák here, a piece of Tchaikovsky there. What I wanted to hear was something to do with Ben Kenobi more developed here, something to do with his death over there. What we needed were themes or our own, which one could put through all the permutations of a dramatic situation. This was my discussion and my dialogue with George--that I felt we needed our own themes, which could be made into a solid dramaturgical glue from start to finish. To whatever extent we have succeeded, that is what I tried to do.

Though this may seem to confirm that Lucas wanted a compilation and Williams talked him out of it, there is another possibility for interpreting this conversation that no one ever mentions. It's true that Lucas had a temp track made up largely of several classical pieces that he selected himself. That's beyond dispute. But it's possible, and to my mind very likely, that what he instead had in mind was an original score that drew heavily on these classical works--even more heavily than in the final film, to the extent that the themes would be recognizable as classically-based recompositions rather than new themes altogether. That would be a sort of combination of existing and original music, a grey area that, as I say, no one has considered.

That would fit the facts far better than saying that Lucas simply wanted a 2001-like compilation score. Why else would he be looking for a classically-trained film composer so well before any of the film was made? Why else would he say that he always had an original score in mind? And the combination-type score I mention would also not make total nonsense of Williams' conversation with Lucas. Everything just fits better from that angle.

2) The contents of the temp track.

Yes, it has been discussed here before, but it's been confusing to sort out what was, was not, and was likely or likely not, on that temp track. The Making of Star Wars clearly states that the temp track included Rózsa's Ivanhoe for the main title, Benny Goodman for the cantina band, Liszt's Les Préludes for the jail break scene, and Bruckner's Ninth Symphony for Luke's theme. I had heard of the first two of these before, but had never seen it confirmed anywhere. And the last two are brand new for me. Interesting that the main title and Luke's theme were considered different pieces of music in the temp track. In any case, the Luke's theme's resemblance to Korngold's Kings Row seems not due to the temp track.

3) The Psycho motif. Paul Hirsch, a film editor on Star Wars, added the famous three-note motif from Herrmann's Psycho where the rebels pop out of a secret hatch on the Millennium Falcon. Yes, we all know this motif is still there, but I did not know it was on the temp track before. So it wasn't some kind of challenge put to Williams by others to somehow include that motif, it was always there on the temp track.

Discuss!

I celebrated by listening to the Star Wars and Revenge of the Sith complete scores.

Perhaps Ken Stott's Balin (from The Hobbit trilogy) quotes could somehow be used for Old Ric Olie (in ghost form if he is dead (I have not been following the Ridiculous project lately)

http://www.superherohype.com/news/300111-lucasfilm-issues-official-word-on-the-future-of-the-star-wars-expanded-universe

IIRC Most of those (atleast the Star Trek ones) were with other young writers though.

"Gandalf!"

record scratch

"Who!?"

Dub Obi-wan's death with dialogue from Gandalf's "death" in Fellowship of the Ring?

I hated the blocky look of TCW BTW (Wooden Beards LOL)

Doesn't look like Lego to me.... ;)