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DoomBot said:
I think we still need a stand alone project to fix the theatrical version first and add the DTS Cinema audio.
Maybe a new thread should be made for this?
The fix needs to be done before we touch the extended version anyway
Could not get the BD to mux so uploaded the .mkv can anyone try it for me (never uploaded a torrent in my life) PM me for the link
Well for what it is worth I am doing my final video encode now and if all goes well will add the audio tracks and mux into a BD25 for upload
bkev said:
Um... well then it's a good thing that's clearly not the master going to Blu? I don't know what to tell you. I'm putting the quality on this one down to jpg compression.
That looks awful!! that is an oversharp mess
The Old Poppins HDTV master was filled with the worst DNR I have ever seen it looked like this:
http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/comparison.php?cap1=25712&cap2=24883&art=full&image=0&cID=1878&action=1&lossless=#vergleich
But worse
MPEG II gets a bad rap from idiots on forums Cough-bluray.com-Cough who have not worked with it
WOWOW has the best OTA HD in the world, tho Sky HD can get close on a good day
So I take it no one here bought it then?
bigrob said:
if the BD is going to be used, is it possible to fix the AR so it doesn't have that stretched look? unless there is a HDTV capture flying around somewhere?
Yeah that is an easy fix, but need to find sources first
Maybe we can guess the assembly cut and pop them back in
bigrob said:
yes but those images in the links provided are from the already released DVD/BD
the article saying "take a look at the Event Horizon you didn't see" is misleading because those images ARE in the film
you can see additional footage here (from the bonus features of the BD / DVD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK1debnXYlA
if you want to see UNSEEN footage, try looking for the original EPK's ;)
there was additional footage of Justin discovering the Gravity Drive (snippits of dialogue and shots of him being wowed by the complexity of it)
there was also behind the scenes footage of this scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocQvTGLuBY8
plus, Anderson cut the gore back to give it a "less is more" effect as explained in Fangoria #170
"While the story revolves around a space rescue team having their worst terrors turned against them...Anderson wanted to avoid having the film become "pedantic" by skirting over this issue in some of the characters...Cooper,for instance, was losing someone close to him, which is represented in the movie by the unfortunate accident that claims Justin...Justin also lost some backstory that provided a stronger explanation for why he enters the ship's strange vortrex...The feelings that Stark has for Capt. Miller are also glossed over in the final cut...Other trims included a detailed explanation for the gateway & the black hole, which Anderson thought confused the test audiences. another lost moment was written by Seven scribe Andrew Kevin Walker and involved a subtle homage tp 2001:A Space Odyssey...cutting down the gore was not a major issue..."My feeling about gore is that if you hold on to it for too long, for the first second it looks great,the second its not scary,the third you start noticing that someones intestines look a bit like rubber and by the fourthit's by God,they ARE rubber."...don't expect the missing 1/2 hour to appear anytime soon on DVD..."
Perhaps the most visceraly promising film of last summer Paramonts SF/horror entry....though it never lived up to the 'event" part which many put the blame on it's truncated running time of 95mn-trimmed from a 2 hour rough cut!
It also mentions that the theatrical version was how PA wanted it & felt th tight editing kept the suspense & story moving forward. (Though you never know today if this is the truth or not)
Some of the cuts....
The greatest fear of Cooper(Richcard T. Jones) was loosing someone close to him,which is represented in the film by the unfortunate accident that claims Justin.
(PA wanted to"skirt" over these issues with some charecters so it would'nt become "pedantic")
Justin also had some backstory + a stronger explanation for why he enters the strange vortex.
The feelings that Starck has for Capt. Miller were also glossed over in the final cut
A much longer & detailed explanation for the gateway & black hole which PA felt confused the hell out of test audiences because it offered "to much" extra info.
A homage to 2001.....when the crew first enters the ship.....there was a floating tooth with a single shot of the bone still attached. So instead of the space station turing in 2001,it was this tooth!
The gore was also cut down though was'nt a major issue for the diretor who felt that shortening cutting away really fast has a stronger impact.
I think you are missing the point and fighting a war that did not need fighting.
Point of thread: Uncut VHS found, can we get hold of it to make an uncut version?
Not the point of thread: look at those pics in the link
Never used Avisynth, sorry
bigrob said:
I think this link backs my claim up 100%
http://splatter-shack.com/splatterific-screencaps-event-horizons-visions-of-hell-frozen-in-time/
The images went longer, the point is the MPAA made them cut the majority of the hell scenes
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
penguinofgreatness said:
An easier way to do this (if you didn't want to completely recolor the blu) would be to to use the WOWOW as the main source, and replace altered shots with the bluray (these shots would of course be color corrected to what the WOWOW looks like).
It's difficult to say if WOWOW is better than BD, without a direct comparison with the BD... I've taken a brief look at WOWOW versions, and, apart some grain (that is perfectly acceptable for old movies like these) I like them very much - colors, details...
If the BD has less grain, due to the newer 4K scan (that should be applied only to ROTLA) and no DNR (apart in some effects shots), it will be better to use BD as video, and WOWOW as color reference.
If the WOWOW has no DNR and/or EE, and the grain is the same of BD, it's easyer to use it as the main video, replacing altered shots with regraded BD scenes.
The WOWOW has no DNR or EE and despite being only 2k can show more detail than the new 4k master.
They are slightly sharpened being made for TV, but that would be dialed down
OK big pie in the sky here, but anyone have nay links to this:
http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/69459/take-look-event-horizon-you-didnt-see
WARNING NSFL!!!
I do not think we will get a Directors cut but a transfer from VHS tidied up a bit may work
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
dvdmike said:
Found or I posted, made and uploaded the page before last?
?!? sorry, I can't understand what do you mean... if it's because you posted the link before and I forgot to credit you, please forgive me, but as I'm following right now several Indiana Jones threads (one has nearly 2000 posts) and screenshot related pages, I had forgotten your post here... until now! (^^,) by the way, I've found it really by myself: http://screenshotcomparison.com/search typing "Raiders of the lost ark" (I was using it for "Jurassic Park" the minute before...)
PDB said:
Hi Andrea,
If you do go forward with your Raiders Project. I can give you the PCM track from this disc:
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11024/LV-1376-WS/Indiana-Jones:-Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-(1981)
which you probably already have but I also have the analog Dolby Surround for this disc:
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11029/LV-1376/Indiana-Jones:-Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-(1981)
which has different dynamics/surround mix. Let me know if you want it and good luck on the project if you decide to go forward.
Thanks for the help - you are right I have this along with the other two movies; but I was not aware that the analog soundtrack had different mix!
I didn't pot the link, I made the link and took the shots
Jonno said:
Yes. The SD video master.
It is above 480, unless THX post the exact dimensions
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
The only one I found is this:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=36982
About color grading: a looong time ago (10 years ago or more) - and a loooot before I discovered this forum - that time I was only a "movie watcher" - the first time I watched ROTLA on DVD I said "Wait! I'm not sure those colors are right...", I took my LD, and managed to play them side-by-side (via PAP onto my CRT TV); the LD colors were way better than DVD... I should capture them, but my HDs are almost full...
Found or I posted, made and uploaded the page before last?
The Aluminum Falcon said:
It's a German semi-boot, I believe; I've got the DVD equivalent for #1, and was wondering if this was worthwhile at all.
That full chopping scene would be nice to see.
The only deleted scenes that exist in full (as in not BTS footage) are the ones from the TV cut: including Ash eating cereal, a corny flashback sequence, and some other extensions. They may have been shot later on though. The only thing is that we only have them in Spanish.
By the way, color timing discussion going on in the other thread.
I am staying out of that one
Jonno said:
Would this have even been edited on film, i.e. was it ever used theatrically?
If its purpose was exclusively as a home cinema demo it probably only exists in the SD video domain.
Does the quality look anything like any home video version? WOW was made for LD and no way upscaled it looked that good, this is straight from the master then upscaled
digitalfreaknyc said:
dvdmike said:
digitalfreaknyc said:
It's been upconverted, by their own admission on the page.
But still comes direct from original 35mm if that is the case it is still unmolested and untimed
If it is an upconversion it is from an HD or close to it source, no way it is SD but at some point it was interlaced
Read their responses. It's an SD source.
They haven't taken out the film reels in years.
It looks over SD, maybe 600i we need a pixel counter, and it was def interlaced at one point.
And it did come from film not video, I did not mean that they got the reel out to make it but the the original source was 35mm
Nope it exists, its more unrated than extended I have seen the chopping scene and with the millions of copies I have I must own it also
penguinofgreatness said:
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
I'm almost finished my "The Thing" project, and result is almost perfect (using HD-DVD as video and laserdisc as color reference)... what about using BD video and WOWOW color reference to obtain the best version? I mean, we could forgive some DNR on effect shots if we have right colors (or, at least, better colors), do you all agree?
Eh. I can live with the BD colors, and if you want the earlier colors, just watch the WOWOW release. The WOWOW release does have some flaws (it's a little over-sharpened and it has some minor digital alterations) but overall it's an ok transfer. (and there is no DNR on the effects shots)
Plus, while the BD colors are not original (especially the teal that crops up), there is no real way to determine how accurate the WOWOW colors are. (I actually think the warmer tones of the bluray often fit the movie better, although dvdmike would disagree.)
SO would others and the THX wow trailer, but I am an easy target I guess
dark_jedi said:
The Aluminum Falcon said:
Anyone seen that Evil Dead II extended Blu-Ray? I'm curious to see if it's at all worthwhile. EDII always felt edited to me, especially in the scene where Ash chops up Evil Ed off-screen.
Link? never heard of an extended cut blu-ray, hell or DVD for that matter.
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