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#657577
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Idea: a 'Waterworld' Laserdisc Preservation? (* unfinished project - lots of info *)
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Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

So you remixed it to 5.1? Because the center info is exact to what the hd-dvd has and not just voice

There was no remixing done by me.  The proggie essentially separates the channels per the DTS cinema standard.  Now, once that is done it CAN be adjusted is usually needed for home use compared to cinema use.

Info:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~clamen/misc/movies/DTS.html

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/53274-Ok-guys-DTS-conversion-challenge-with-FACTORY-DTS-DISCS-!!

:)

 

 

Why would it remix a 4.0 mix to 5.1 what would be the point? that is what I am getting at

It is possible that the 4.0 mix you speak of was for 70mm print (if it had one) showings.

adapter223 said:

hello, hope this helps You, I asked a guy who done the theatrical mix for Waterworld and he wrote this:

"When we mix for a film, we mix in a discrete mode, that being, we monitor without the Dolby or DTS matrix inserted into the monitors. For "Waterworld" we created a 5.1 mix for four formats: Dolby Digital, DTS, and SDDS and the 2 trk LT RT . I have no idea what happens once the project leaves for DVD mastering. It's done somewhere else, and sometimes not even on the studio lot. It's possible that the DVD made into a 5.0 was generated from the 2 trk Print Master."

This post from the other thread shows there was a 2 Trk LT RT mix done but I do not have it.  I have no information on what presentation the mix was created for.

 

There was never a 70mm blow up but both lddb and this forum says it had a 4.0 theatrical track.

I am saying in no way is that cinema disc 4.0 it is way too well mixed to be a 4.0 track upmixed to 5.1.

I am saying it was always 5.1

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#657563
Topic
Idea: a 'Waterworld' Laserdisc Preservation? (* unfinished project - lots of info *)
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Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

So you remixed it to 5.1? Because the center info is exact to what the hd-dvd has and not just voice

There was no remixing done by me.  The proggie essentially separates the channels per the DTS cinema standard.  Now, once that is done it CAN be adjusted is usually needed for home use compared to cinema use.

Info:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~clamen/misc/movies/DTS.html

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/53274-Ok-guys-DTS-conversion-challenge-with-FACTORY-DTS-DISCS-!!

:)

 

 

Why would it remix a 4.0 mix to 5.1 what would be the point? that is what I am getting at

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#657247
Topic
Idea: a 'Waterworld' Laserdisc Preservation? (* unfinished project - lots of info *)
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Got it, will have a look 

 

EDIT

it is a real 5.1 track, it is way too well mixed to not be, the surrounds are split and the center has dedicated info.

No way a machine did this automatically 

 

Double edit

Remembered I had the HD-DVD ripped, it is the same mix but the DTS blows it out of the water! 

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#656795
Topic
The Crow - Unrated DVDm Cut (* unfinished project *)
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Doctor M said:

Don't do any of the black and white thing. 

James O'barr wrote the comic, not the script.  He did not direct it.  There's a reason he isn't responsible for any artistic choices; he is not a filmmaker.

If Alex Proyas had wanted black and white, he is artistically creative enough to have done it.

Leave the color.

I'd rather you found away to restore the Skull Cowboy.

Turns out Alex wanted it also

 

Director Alex Proyas originally wanted to shoot the entire movie in "black and white" closer to the comics and only using color in Draven's flash backs scenes with high contrast theme, but the studio executives didn't allow him to experiment with approach. This made Proyas shoot much of the movie in a monochromatic color theme mixed with red and dark gray.