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#662159
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Info: Re-mixed audio tracks on video releases
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Finished to read (more or less) all the thread, and it seems no one has these ones:

Wizard of Oz - mono + isolated score & effect track

Dirty Harry - is AC3, but the other analog channel is mono, so it *should* be the original mono soundtrack...

Could be interesting to preserve?

Why not just get this Harry http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/10847/1019-LV/Dirty-Harry-(1971)

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#659850
Topic
Movies with wrong color grading *** UPDATED ***
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

dvdmike said:

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

dvdmike said:

DoomBot said:

Is there a high bitrate D-theater version out there?

There is 

 

EDIT just looked and it looks like the ENG version has vanished but there is an ITA version

Yep, it's the one I have... video is untouched, it has just the english soundtrack removed, replaced with italian soundtrack instead.

Does the audio track we have (4.0) sync?

Which audio track in particular are you referring to? I'd like to use the D-Theater video for a preservation project, so I'll search for any interesting soundtracks to add to it.

The LD 4.0 mix 

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#659827
Topic
Movies with wrong color grading *** UPDATED ***
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

dvdmike said:

DoomBot said:

Is there a high bitrate D-theater version out there?

There is 

 

EDIT just looked and it looks like the ENG version has vanished but there is an ITA version

Yep, it's the one I have... video is untouched, it has just the english soundtrack removed, replaced with italian soundtrack instead.

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Some comparisons on youtube

Jurassic Park:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8nBo4yJUxA

Superman II:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tctD3gLesmo

Evil Dead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeaLiJVvy1c

The Ten Commandments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8g32OZjKgE

Night of the Living Dead (1990):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6MZnqPnTxU

Does the audio track we have (4.0) sync?

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#658929
Topic
Movies with wrong color grading *** UPDATED ***
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DoomBot said:

Is there a high bitrate D-theater version out there?

There is 

 

EDIT just looked and it looks like the ENG version has vanished but there is an ITA version 

 

Video

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Format settings, Matrix        : Custom

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Bit rate mode                  : Variable

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Maximum bit rate               : 45.0 Mbps

Width                          : 1 920 pixels

Height                         : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio           : 16:9

Frame rate                     : 29.970 fps

Color space                    : YUV

Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0

Bit depth                      : 8 bits

Compression mode               : Lossy

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.338

Stream size                    : 17.1 GiB (92%)

 

Audio

ID                             : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)

Format                         : DTS

Format/Info                    : Digital Theater Systems

Codec ID                       : 130

Duration                       : 1h 56mn

Bit rate mode                  : Constant

Bit rate                       : 755 Kbps

Channel(s)                     : 6 channels

Channel positions              : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE

Sampling rate                  : 48.0 KHz

Bit depth                      : 24 bits

Compression mode               : Lossy

Delay relative to video        : -64ms

Stream size                    : 627 MiB (3%)

Language                       : Italian

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#658437
Topic
Movies with wrong color grading *** UPDATED ***
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captainsolo said:

Many are discussed in my older thread on a similar topic: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Films-re-color-timed-on-video-releases/topic/15311/

The only big color criticism off the top of my head I have with WB overall is the Superman  films which all have teal throughout now on BD for some unknown reason. Additionally the budget for the Donner Cut of II was rather low and the timing was not done on any footage until the final edit and that was done pretty much with  modern sensibilities in mind.

Pretty sure the Leone films are wrong on MGM's transfers with FAFDM may be the closest to intended composition and color. Duck You Sucker is very green/brownish and washed out looking. GBU SE is a travesty all around and the 35mm looked washed out.

The modern Bond transfers are all wrong for color. They are no longer of their vintage and were timed to suit modern tastes in many preferences, even on the BD remastered takes on the same masters. That is why the newer releases such as YOLT, OHMSS and DAF have far too much contrast and lack that color depth from Technicolor and vintage non faded Eastman.  The new TSWLM master is wonderfully detailed but the color isn't quite right I think--yet a darn sight better than the awful bleaching the film got at the hands of Lowry in 2006.

 

Lowry also used the wrong vintage grain in the Bond films 

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#658332
Topic
Restoration, Preservation, Fan Edit - definitions
Time

timdiggerm said:

AntcuFaalb said:

timdiggerm said:

The easiest way to do this is continuous distribution, so that the files are stored in many places, and are continually being stored in new places.

If your preservation isn't freely available, it's probably not very well preserved.

Finally! I finally have someone who agrees with me that distribution is necessary for preservation.

Unless, I admit, you have a very good and secure backup system.

But yeah, there are good reasons why even the Internet Archive, the paragon of digital preservation probably, hopes to someday have multiple locations.

If Lowry burnt down (one can only hope) it would set most studios back 4 years plus