JP SE release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZa1at4V7tY&feature=youtu.be
Is all I have on my HDD, the cannon for the shotgun and the silenced beretta
I have one clip from that UK disc but not the same scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ziXQqRQgg4&feature=youtu.be
The M1911 should make you deaf you in that close proximity
hairy_hen said:
Expecting a theatrical trailer to sound like the final version of a film soundtrack is an exercise in futility. It is highly unlikely the same sound effects would have been used, and extremely likely the trailer was not mixed by the same people.
Therefore, the existence of such differences proves nothing.
Also, Gary Rydstrom was the sound designer for the original mixes, not just the redone version.
I see no reason to doubt disclord's information that the early DVD used the CDS 5.1 master. Somebody should find a laserdisc PCM track of the Dolby Stereo version and see how that sounds—chances are it is pretty similar.
The version I saw in CDS was NOT exactly like the trailer but in no way were the gunshots silenced to the degree that the shitty near field mix was.
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dvdmikesaid:
I have all home LD and dvd/bd editions and none have the gunshots.
What's about this one:PLFED 30341?
I have that its in the pic in the OP at the top I have a rip I made of that scene somewhere I can upload it to YT one tick
kaosjm said:
dvdmike said:
I have all home LD and dvd/bd editions and none have the gunshots.
I did ask Van Ling if we can get the CDS mix even lossy on a new BD and he said it depends on space
I am blown away that even Van Ling would consider this. 23 years later and dozens of home releases and we still don't know what it was like to experience this movie in its definitive form at home. This is reaching Star Wars level.
I'm very curious as to what more Van Ling has to say about this? To my understanding, he was the supervisor for the more recent "ultimate" and "extreme" home releases of this film. The idea that you were even able to get in contact with him over this is great. Why has the CDS mix been avoided for so long?
Again, the sound effects in the trailer sound much better than what's in any release of the film for home viewing. Just listen to 1:30 - 1:38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eajuMYNYtuY when the T-1000 slips through the prison bars... the home releases sound boring compared to that... DD or DTS all of them. Then, listen to any sample of gunfire from the trailer. Why "remaster" that with whatever Gary Rydstrom did? What was the goal?
None of the multi-channel mixes sound as good as the simple stereo theatrical trailer from 1991... that says a lot. Do any of the older VHS tapes use the CDS mix? I wish I had some on hand to find out.
Gary said at the time HT can in no way ever sound as good as a cinema, so he remixed it for near field (IE the speakers are nearer to you and the mix should be adjusted accordingly) I strongly disagree and think he ruined the fidelity
I have all home LD and dvd/bd editions and none have the gunshots.
I did ask Van Ling if we can get the CDS mix even lossy on a new BD and he said it depends on space
I have a great memory for colour and sound, and I still remember the gunshots in the the lift scene to be like the trailer, not the crappy "silenced" ones on the Live dvd
I am in the UK and the weight is not too bad really
May be the only option
poita said:
Happy to scan the trailer for you.
Where are you located?
I need to figure a way of getting shots we can recognize
It wont sync to anything, you would need to edit the sound down to the R rated version we have on home video now
I ordered an original UK quad poster from Ebay now! I am in deep lol
I can find some non landscape shots but am worried it will fall apart or get torn or something
More HDTV - 4KBD
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/90605
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/90606
The trailer is never a good indicator as they can be odd ratios
Shame I have nothing to capture it with
GB II
HDTV - BD
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/90579
The trailer came do I have to handle it in any special way?
Bought the trailer!
Spaced Ranger said:
Amazon UK Customer Review: M. Hevingham "Mark Hevingham" said:
Like the VHS and laser disc releases this movie is ruined on DVD by a ten minute cut and pretty awful cropping of the image.
When it was shown on TV (Sky movies in around 1990) it was shown 4:3 but with the full running time which is shorter by around 10 minutes in the home video release. ...
The film was shot in 2.35:1 and is cropped here to 4:3, momentarily appearing in 16:9 within the 4:3 frame to accommodate the movie's title.I watched beyond some of the widescreen opening (wide only for the title) of a fullscreen Slipstream at YouTube. I also noted that the end credits list Panavision and Panaflex equipment. Could it be that Slipstream was a cinemascreen production, as the Amazon reviewer states? In those early minutes of the pan & scan video, there is a shot that starts at the right and quickly pans left to following the action. Putting together those two extremes showed what the original shot might've looked like:
From my added frame outlines, cinemascreen (in cyan) would've looked awesome. Unfortunately, it seems widescreen (in magenta) contains the entire shot, well-framed for that format.
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As jerryshadoe mentioned above, there are "HDTV" and "Cinemascope" vids at YouTube. And, yes, they are just poor quality, crop-and-stretch vids (karma will get back to YouTube poster "Gunga Din" & "gunga din" for that bit of trickery). ;)
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However, there is a "making of" video there, too. These are interesting because they show original movie clips (interspersed among the interviews) in the movies' released format:
The Making of Slipstream (1989) (by the director of Tron)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67WdIRsBks8.
Grabbing the same-frame shots from the fullscreen movie ..
Slipstream (1989)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9A4V9XZweI.. and from that widescreen portion of the "making of" documentary, and superimposing them, shows further evidence of Slipstream being a widescreen (only) production:
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Also came across a medley of Elmer Bernstein music from the film (must be from a soundtracks compilation):
Elmer Bernstein - music from Slipstream (1989)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i44tuxPh_0Eand a few minutes video capture from the JP laserdisc:
Slipstream widescreen test clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBRIMhMz0RgYouTube coming through big time! Hope this helps.
Amazing info thanks! some great insight there
Still working on it sorry, may have to upload what I have at 50hz and let someone else fix the frame rate
milw50717 said:
FYI There are 2 workprint versions running for 118 and 128 mins on the spleen
^ What he said
Aliens and True lies
Hmm, so it was not my google-fu that was faulty, I need to do a ton more research then
I have the UK dvd, a poor LD/VHS rip by the looks of it but am wondering if there is a better version?
There was a Widescreen LD but it looks to be rare and wanted better quality.
Since it is now public domain I don’t think we need to worry about legal stuff now.
I am normally the guy who finds stuff but either my google-fu is lacking or there is nothing to be found.
Info I can find on the Uk and US dvd’s http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=11258
