dvdmike

And me!

doubleofive said:

dvdmike said:

I was under the impression it was open matte on Netflix.

My mistake, it was 1.85:1 on Sky in the UK

I wonder if it was opened to that or cropped? Seems to be some debate on that.

 They are not showing it right now, but some people here:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1845087

Saying it is opened

I was under the impression it was open matte on Netflix.

My mistake, it was 1.85:1 on Sky in the UK

Were all the HDTV versions cut then?

I know, I saw it in the cinema and was aware of the changes when i bought it 

That picture makes me sad in a weird way 

I saw it projected in 96 and it was far from gold, I think that bulb temp is a factor there also 

Mine looks like that 

I have the pal dvd but I was under the impression it came out later so it was cut?

I will look it out over the week for you 

It was the same LD looking rip

A lot of Super 35 productions had a different AR when they had a blow up made, See Top Gun also 

team_negative1 said:

Not sure what you mean, we are not planning for a Bluray 50g.

Team Negative1

 as in if it's scanned at 4k and the workflow is at 4k I want a massive file in 4K ;)

This of any use to anyone? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121506053363?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

So TPM has the DNR?

Can we skip the bd50 and go for the full wack little compression as possible 

I am far from ignoring what went before, but those 35mm shots always looked a little worse for ware, and you can see even in those that and the trailer posted that the nazi flags are not orange.

So PDB nearly all your shots, bar the Temple ones say the BD is wrong.

The 16mm looks colder just like the wowow so I am not sure what that was aimed at

Maybe in between the two HD versions, but in no way was it ever as bad as the BD shows

35mm (slightly tamed) vs HD

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/103115

I think this thread is one that people will never agree on.

msycamore said:

litemakr said:

Based on some googling it sounds like Laser Pacific did a Raiders restoration under Spielberg's supervision, which I assume is the Wowow version. Then Laser Pacific was bought by Technicolor, who then re-colored what I assume is the same scan for the blu ray. That makes sense to me, I don't think the blu is a different scan. And Technicolor is listed on the blu ray. The question is why did they change the color after creating an already excellent restoration? The only thing I can think of is to "modernize" the look to match Crystal Skull and somehow appeal to a modern audience. It must have been done late in the game because the trailer released to promote the blu-ray set has a restoration demo featuring the Laser Pacific color, not what was actually released on blu. 

Check out what I posted earlier in the thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Raiders-of-the-lost-ark-bluray-and-colour-timing-changes/post/633298/#TopicPost633298

As the link to the Pan American Clipper - matte shot isn't working any longer, here's a repost; http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?disc1=1520&disc2=1519&cap1=14343&cap2=14327&art=full&image=2&hd_multiID=760&action=1&lossless=#vergleich (see removal of matte lines and tweaked water reflections in the Lowry DVD transfer). The same subtle digital tweaks seen in the 2003 DVD transfer are present in the Laser Pacific (Wowow HDTV-Broadcast) transfer.

Personally I vastly prefer the HDTV-Broadcast as well but there's clearly issues with both of them.

EDIT: Still, I guess a recycling of the same scan is a possibility despite the restored matte shot. Perhaps all the negativity surrounding the butchering of the Star Wars trilogy around the same time called for it. But then again, why restore that matte shot and keep the other tweaks? (A question that remains no matter how you look at it.)

 Interesting shot, the wowow looks like this:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/103028

The framing is not exactly the same and this said to be a new 4k scan, the film was colored to look like skull if you ask me 

litemakr said:

Turisu said:

Well after all these ringing endorsements from people that clearly know this movie a lot better than I do, I've decided to crack and swap my BD for the wowow version.

I'm guessing rutracker is the place to go for this, but there are several versions on there and I haven't a clue which is the version being discussed.

Any and all help much appreciated. :)

Check your PMs

It's a bit over-sharpened and there are still a couple of gamma issues with slightly blown out highlights, primarily in the Ark opening sequence. But they are less severe than the blu ray and the color is MUCH better, and pretty accurate to the 35mm version IMO. It's sharper than the blu in most places. The sound is the original mix from what I can tell, but the surrounds are too loud. I had a big smile on my face watching it last night. I have been so unhappy with the blu ray that it was a joy to watch.  

It would be interesting to know who did this version and why it was only shown in Japan. The HD master shown on US TV was the Lowry remaster (and now is the blu ray version). I wonder if this was the original 4k restoration and then Paramount felt they had to mess with it for the blu ray release by re-timing and remixing. 

 Laser Pacific did it 

Damn that looks good, it is the best I have capped from an LD 

Did you end up using my cap of the GNR music video?

It is indeed, it's the only version I will watch 

Quick and dirty 

Williarob said:

Probably not much use as a color reference as it's from an old faded 35mm trailer reel, but still fun to watch:

http://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/starwars/post/2014/12/02/Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-35mm-Trailer-in-HD

 Br the fading it looks like the LP master 

CatBus said:

dvdmike said:

CatBus said:

team_negative1 said:

It's not clothing. Not a release date (Still way too soon for that). Not another print. Not more screenshots. It's from an idea one of the original member of the group had.

Team Negative1

If it's Star Wars cut & timed to match the Dark Side of the Moon, we're all going to be very disappointed.

 speak for yourself 

Okay, fine. But Funky Cold Medina would be way better.

 well like Mick Jagger said, I can't get no satisfaction