The problem with combining The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones into one movie is that Star Wars traditionally doesn’t do time jumps within the same movie.
looks around
Sure.
We already went down this road and it was OK.
Giacchino apparently included track titles of his usual… caliber? in the liner notes for the soundtrack:
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Baze’s “They destroyed our home!” on Erdu keeps it after Jehda, I’d think.
It’s a shame this one’s unlikely to get the Rinzler treatment. A full in-depth play by play would be fantastic.
Whitta wrote the first draft and Jyn wasn’t even in it (or Knoll suggested her during writing). What did they start with?
I thought the pitch from Knoll was essentially the story of the rebels stealing the plans, lead by the daughter of the man who constructed it.
You’re right, I got that backwards.
It’s a shame this one’s unlikely to get the Rinzler treatment. A full in-depth play by play would be fantastic.
Whitta wrote the first draft and Jyn wasn’t even in it (or Knoll suggested her during writing). What did they start with?
I am disgusted that this trashheap of a movie will actually exist next year. The worst thing is that the very premise is so painfully cynical that they’re using that to help market it!
Cinema is dead.
We survived The Angry Birds Movie, we can survive this. Also, cheap movies capitalizing on fads won’t ruin “cinema”. Never has, never will.
I wonder why IDW is involved.
Reshoots inspired rewrites?
OK, maybe the Rebellion gets word from Saw, he knows of a weapon and has details, but will only reveal it to Jyn for {reasons}. The Rebels break out or release Jyn from their own custody (hence the bit in the early trailers about being trusted without her shackles). Turns out he wants to reveal that her father is alive and that he knows where to find the plans. Meanwhile, the DS’s weapon test is on Jedha, which is successful, but they escape without seeing what caused the blast.
Not sure about the crashed X-Wing though.
The novelization came out today. Certainly it was written well before the reshoots. Someone has to grab a copy and find out what it has.
Who am I supposed to be mad at?
mverta for destroying my dreams?
OR Finnius for being an asshole and nearly giving me a heart attack!
The latter.
The whole mission is completely different. It isn’t find Galen Erso, it’s figure out how to destroy the Death Star (which presumably would lead them to Galen). Everything involving Cassian’s mission to assassinate Galen was added during reshoots (I think he was supposed to be a Rebel recruiter or something).
I guide I linked earlier calls him a recruiter. Very interesting.
How do you guys feel seeing stuff on the trailers that aren’t in the film? I think it’s very misleading, I’ve been wondering a long time what all the snippets meant and was looking forward to the subway scene and many others. I mean seriously, like 95% of the dialogue and over half of the stuff shown in advance wasn’t in the movie.
I really hope the BD contains a lot of deleted footage.
It’s not misleading if that’s what was in the movie when they cut the trailer. Besides, I’d much rather have a trailer of things not in the movie that give me a flavor of what the movie is about than a trailer that’s just the best parts.
Saw Gerrara is bald in flashbacks and bearded in the “present”, therefore I believe most of the early trailer shots are from a cut that has some Jyn in training and/or her abandonment. The dialog “What will you do when they catch you? What will you do if they break you? If you continue to fight, what will you become?” sounds like training or his final speech as he leaves her behind.
I agree this sounds like exactly what you say - but then Jyn would’ve been to Jedha previously, as that’s the same room in which they meet later. So…not sure what to make of that?
Right. It is the same room, but the window isn’t blown out.
I was going to throw the BS flag at the MST3K episode, but apparently that was a KTMA episode. So I threw the flag at saying “the OT community”, which I can’t imagine anyone saying out loud ever.
I’m sure Mike appreciates you livening up his thread with lies. Or not.
Did I push Quote instead of Edit? I guess there’s a first time for everything.
True, I just figured that altering the flow of events enough to have them make it out of the tower and back to the beach to then just have them die in a different location seemed a little over the top.
Which would probably be why they cut it.
005, that’s some good stuff! Have any sources I can link to?
Most of the promo material seems to have been written before the reshoots. A lot of the images I referred to I found in the Disney Movie Rewards guide.
A version of the script was produced where not everyone died before Disney gave Gareth Edwards the OK to kill everyone:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/20/14022380/rogue-one-ending-original-different-gareth-edwards
He claims none of that ending was actually shot, but that seems to be at odds with the trailer shots of Jyn running around the Imperial base and beach with the plans in hand.
I think Tim’s statement of there being two buildings covers running with the plans. It doesn’t makes much sense to have the archives INSIDE the comm tower/command center. I believe they had to break into the archives, then get to the comm tower, which may or may not have been the command center. If originally the planet was the construction base for finishing the DS, it would make sense to have more than one building.
There’s also a shot of Krennic surveying the damage on Scarif on the ground, which may be a trailer shot, but why would they take the actor to the beach set if he wasn’t going to be on the ground at any point?
Saw Gerrara is bald in flashbacks and bearded in the “present”, therefore I believe most of the early trailer shots are from a cut that has some Jyn in training and/or her abandonment. The dialog “What will you do when they catch you? What will you do if they break you? If you continue to fight, what will you become?” sounds like training or his final speech as he leaves her behind.
I believe that the TIE on the transmission tower is a trailer-made shot, along with the promo shot of the Rebel leaders crowded around a hologram of the Death Star.
There are various promo shots showing what looks to be Vader and Krennic having a conversation on the Death Star. I don’t believe Vader ever is on the DS. There’s also dialog between Krennic and Vader that isn’t in the final cut, where Krennic is trying to convince Vader how badass the DS is.
All of the early promo material mentions how Scarif is the new construction base for the DS, which I think was changed to it just being a archive. Also the early trailers and promos mention how the Rebels know that “major weapons test is imminent” and they need to know how to stop it, making me think that originally Galen Erso or someone sends a message saying that things are bad, but maybe they need the pilot to find the location of the test. But if they know a test is imminent and know they need plans, why would they be reluctant to send the fleet to Scarif since they don’t have to believe Jyn’s word?
Maybe you should create a thread for your project, because I’m not entirely sure what you’re doing and there are so many threads you’ve made to gather ideas for it. Put it in “Other Preservations and Fan Projects”, keep everything in there, it’ll be easier for you to track because it’ll all be in one place, and it’s less likely to attract the attention of people who actually don’t want to help you.
So Mala’s gotten that bad with his anti-Rogue One sentiments? Dammit, now I really want to read his tripe for a good laugh (but I won’t, 'cause I don’t want to read any spoilers).
Just look at his TFA sentiments and find/replace with R1 words. However, he has not said that Felicity Jones looks like a squirrel or chipmunk or whatever. Yet.