doubleofive

timdiggerm said:

Bingowings said:

It would be interesting hear which new changes are 'salvageable' some of them clearly are not but is there anything new worth keeping or working on? 

Depends on your purpose. For things like Revisited, Ewok-Eyes might be worth keeping. The lack of Humdinger is probably worth keeping, depending on the quality of the fix.

xhonzi said:

RedFive said:

It's only $4, just keep it in your collection.  How much could you make off it anyway?  The movie isn't that bad!

Well, I'll never watch the movie again...  Maybe it's isn't "that" bad, but it's not any good either. 

So I wouldn't keep it for the movie.  But I thought there might be $4 worth of entertainment in the features... especially any of them that are sort of "tributes" to the trilogy.

Looks like I could sell it on half.com for ~$9.  Not that I set out to make $5, but I could recoup my spending price and not come out any worse for the wear.

For those who didn't know, BBV has a buy 5 for $20 sale on their previously viewed BDs and DVDs.  I had to pick a 5th BD to get the 4 that I wanted.  It ended up being this one.

And yes, I feel dirty and shamed and if any of you had to put me on IGNORE! for this, I would understand.

MV64 said:

Tobar said:

MV64 said:

I enjoyed the changes to the trilogy so far, except for the addition of Jedi Rocks, the Jabba scene in '97, and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the burping frog</span> in ROTJ.

Er, the burping frog (worrt) wasn't a special edition...addition. It's always been in there.

Wasn't it exaggerated in the SE?  I guess it's been a while since I've watched my original VHS tapes.

In comparison:

The Phantom Menace:

Nominated for Academy Award for Best Sound Effects
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Visual Effects
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Sound

Attack of the Clones

Nominated for Academy Award for Best Visual Effects


Revenge of the Sith:

Nominated for Academy Award for Best Makeup

Star Wars:

Won Academy Award for Best Art Direction
Won Academy Award for Best Costume Design
Won Academy Award for Best Film Editing*
Won Academy Award for Best Visual Effects*
Won Academy Award for Best Original Score
Won Academy Award for Best Sound*
Won Special Achievement Award for Sound Effects Editing*
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Actor in a Supporting Role (Alec Guinness)
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay (George Lucas)*
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Director (George Lucas)*
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Picture*

The Empire Strikes Back:

Won Special Achievement Award for Visual Effects*
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Music, Original Score,
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Art Direction - Set Decoration

Return of the Jedi:

Won Special Achievement Award for Visual Effects*
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Art Direction/Set Decoration
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Sound Effects Editing*
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Music, Original Score
Nominated for Academy Award for Best Sound*

*Not available in this release.

muddyknees2000 said:

ONE email would be nice.....one until you sign in and visit the site again

PSYCHO_DAYV said:

I MET MY FIANCE ON OKCUPID.  SERIOUSLY, I DID.

Darth Editous said:

I can honestly say that after reading all of this I am more excited about Star Wars than I have been in a while...

...excited for how I'm going to edit the mother-loving fudge out of these blurays, that is.

I'm still hanging on to a tiny sliver of hope that this is (at least partially) an elaborate hoax, but only because of the mind-numbing crapitude (in reasoning if not in execution) of the (non-)changes.

DE

You know what: except for the "NOOO" and the rocks in front of R2 disappearing, I'd be ok with all of this for a Special Edition. The unfreezing is very nice, the Ewok blinks hopefully are more consistent the the Gorn in "Star Trek Remastered" (we made the Gorn blink! Twice!), heck, even the Dug is ok. It's the fact that this is supposed to be Lucas' ultimate vision, and there's still wires, strings, seams, garbage mattes, color errors, and other things you know he hates but didn't have them fix, that's what gets me.

The problem with the leaks causing pre-orders to be cancelled is that now Lucas will claim that people decided they didn't have to buy them because they pirated them. They're going to ignore the why's and just look at the numbers. They just lost a whole bunch of sales, plain and simple. I don't see this boding well for us.

On a personal note, I would probably have purchased it, even with the changes had they bothered to fix anything they promised. Garbage mattes, still there. Lightsabers only fixed in the two shots they showed us they fixed.

And what's with the Dug? Leia waits until the whole palace is asleep, everyone accept for this guy, it's ok that he walks into the room a few seconds before her. It's not like he'd raise the alarm or anything.

EDIT: Sorry, watched the video, its when everyone is asleep before Luke comes.

What gets me is I have a list of 250 perfectly acceptable changes to ANH that are generally well regarded, and the only thing so far is to make it physically impossible for R2 to move. Ok...

Chewtobacca said:

doubleofive said: Just add them to the existing thread? ;-)

In the short term, that's obviously the solution, but I meant that we would soon need one to document them for easy reference. ;-)

Chewtobacca said:

That's awful.  We'll soon need a thread that documents all the changes that have been introduced in the 2011 Special Editions lol.

How did he get back there?

This topic title is now the ultimate power in the universe. I suggest we use it.

That "No" isn't true. It's impossible. You'd think if Lucas always intended Vader to say "no" HE WOULD HAVE HAD HIM DO IT BEFORE NOW.

If the Special Editions are new drafts of Lucas' masterpiece, let's compare this to a book then.

In 1977, Lucas released a book. It was short and sweet, and people loved it. Twenty years later, he republishes it with some new chapters and some corrections here and there. The next time it comes up for republishing, he does the same thing, but this time something happened and now all of the text is at an angle. You can still read it, but its a pain. His readers point this out over and over again for 7 years, and that all they really want is the original novel. He ignores all these requests, only straightens the text in the parts people used as examples of crooked text, and adds more typo corrections. Instead of fixing the major problem, that people can't read it correctly, he's fixing typos that may or may not have been there from the beginning.

I do think its funny that they only fixed the EXACT SHOTS we used as complaints about the 2004. Do they not see that entire scenes need to be fixed, not just particular shots?

adywan said:

These blu-ray rips are legit. i have just found the first alteration done to ROTJ. They have redone the Ewoks eyes. They have also added blinks.

Bingowings said:

Rat Frink

It really should have the words "Deal With It!" on the bottom in red.

Classy move Anti-Matter and Co (enjoy being gods of your mini-comedy OT.COM pastiche)

Bingowings said:

I hate to be a swine but if you get a chance doubleofive, that long list of yours needs to get a bit longer.

Could you break it down into different pages as it takes a long time to load with all those mockups etc?

It might help if we figured out what's missing.

i'll have a look over the thread when I get a chance, I'm not sure when your list was last updated.

none said:

So since we are in or close to leak season, what are specific shots or things which people can use to verify if some release is an actual blu-ray rip.  And Part Two: What things should someone check for once it's verified as being a blu-ray rip.

TV's Frink said:

Ziggy Stardust said:
I like the idea of a commentary, if it's funny. But knowing you, it probably would be.

Strangely, I'm not sure it would be terribly funny.  I had pictured it as more of an informational track explaining the various memes, inside jokes, sources used, and so on.  Maybe some thoughts on how or why I did things, stuff I learned...wow, that sounds really self-important. ;-)

No, that's great, definitely adding it.

I love everything I've seen so far. Granted, I'm only 20-some episodes into the "new" series as a whole. I love that the show manages to do whatever it puts its mind to. It's funny when it tries to be funny, its corny when it doesn't care, its scary when it wants to be scary, its heartwarming when it wants to be heartwarming.

I'm very impressed. Having different doctors is also a neat concept for me. I can tell sometimes that Ten is the same Doctor as Nine, but he's also his own character. I was REALLY impressed when I randomly picked one of the Four episodes they have on Netflix. I could see that even then its the same character!

I just ordered my first round of Doctor Who stuff, I'll take pictures when I get it all!

Tyrphanax said:

I Accuse My Parents.

Boy lies a lot. Boy meets girl. Boy joins mob. Boy leaves mob. Boy goes to court. Boy blames his parents. Boy gets off scott free. Parents everywhere learn a lesson.

2 out of 2 irresponsible parents.

 

I'm on an MST3K kick. Refer to Frink's avatar.