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#1450820
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<strong>Star Wars: Visions</strong> (animated short films) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I decided not to watch this all in one sitting, and I also didn’t watch it in the order that they’re displayed. I decided to start with the ones I was least looking forward to and then went in order of how much they interested me before I finished with The Duel which is the first episode in the collection. Also after each episode, I also went into the extra’s and looked at the filmmaker’s focus on each one before moving to the next short.

I watched them in this order
TO-B1
Lop and Ocho
Tattooine Rhapsody
Akakiri
The Elder
The Village Bride
The Twins
The Ninth Jedi
The Duel

Ranking
9 Lop and Ocho This was a real flop for me. I wasn’t that excited about it, because of the main character being a bunny girl, but that actually wasn’t much of a problem. The biggest issue with this one is that it feels really incomplete. None of the characters are well developed and I think Ocho in fact is the most poorly developed. The way she was characterized before she officially joins the empire and after she joins feels really abrupt. It also ends pretty abruptly and doesn’t have much of a conclusion. It feels like it got cut off way too soon like this was the beginning of a much longer story. It wasn’t until I watched the behind the scene feature about this one that I fully understood what the studio was going for. I got some of it from watching the short, but that I needed to go look at the behind the scene video for me to feel that is a failure of the short. It’s a real shame because I feel like if we got to fully explore Ocho’s descent to the dark side it could have worked better. I also think if we’re able to get a full movie or another 2-3 episodes to fully explore or conclude the story this would be really strong but without those, the short just isn’t all that good.

8 The Twins This was a really fun short. The plot is rather simple, but since the focus of the short is on the action it’s exactly what it needs to be. This is very clearly animated by Imaishi, whose style is immediately recognizable, to give us fight scenes on par with some of his best works. However, maybe because the plot is so simple I didn’t really connect to this one all that much. Don’t get me wrong I like cool action scenes as much as the next person, but I would have liked a little bit more substance. However, as a spectacle and piece of popcorn entertainment, it fully succeeds.

7 Tattooine Rhapsody was probably the most fun of these shorts. The idea of making a rock opera in Star Wars was pretty unique and in the wrong hands it could have ended up just feeling embarrassing, but the confidence the staff had in this project really shone through. It’s also the only one that features established characters from the franchise in the plot. It was also interesting to see the main character be a Jedi who turned away from fighting and became the lead singer in the band. All of the band members are well defined and the middle portion of the episode really sells that bond that all of them share with each other. It also doesn’t hurt that the music is really good. Joseph Gordon Levitt plays the main character and it turns out he’s a pretty good singer, Galactic Dreamer is a banger that’ll be playing on loop in my head over the next few days. I also went through and listened to the song in all of the languages it was dubbed into. Anyway, this episode was really enjoyable and I can defiantly see myself coming back to this one.

6 The Elder was definitely an interesting story it was rather more introspective than some of the other ones. The characters were well defined, and it did a decent job of introducing some mystery into the proceedings. I would definitely be interested in seeing these characters return. Like all of them, there is potential for the story to be expanded and turned into a series. I could see this being the prelude to a story about the return of the Sith, but I think it ended in a decent enough place that it works as a standalone. I’d also like to call out the score which feels a lot like John Williams’s score. In fact, this is one of the shorts that feels the most like Star Wars.

5 TO-B1 was the first one I watched because didn’t think I’d like it all that much but I actually found it pretty charming. The story was cute and the relationship between him and Mitaka was really well done. The animation was also really inventive and fluid throughout the entire thing. All of the characters were extremely expressive. The parts of this where he’s searching for the Kyber Crystal and exploring the force for the first time felt a bit shorter than I would like and I kind of wish this was a full 30-40 minute movie so some of those parts could breathe a bit more. However, it did tell a complete story and I was pretty satisfied after watching it.

4 The Duel was the short that I was most looking forward to and that was 100% because of its art style. While it wasn’t quite as good as I had hoped it was still a brilliant watch. I loved the sketchy black and white art style, and it looked a lot like they were blending some 3D into the 2D animation. It’s your standard Ronin helping a village story, but there were some fun touches on the formula such as the chief being a little kid. The idea of having this former Sith being the wanderer was also pretty inspired. I also liked how the short kind of does a fun homage to the Anakin and Obi-Wan fight in Revenge of the Sith, with the fight on the river log clearly being modeled on their fight on the magma barge. I also appreciate the soundtrack sounding a lot like Star Wars. I’m glad we’re getting more to this and I’ve preordered a Hardcover of the book, the cover art is so cool.

3 The Village Bride. I really enjoyed this one and it’s definitely one of the ones that feel the most complete as a story. The stands out for me in this one is the visuals. It focused on the beauty of the planet, and the beauty of quiet moments. It also had some pretty unique character designs and the style of animation was not what I’m used to but I still really liked it. It was also I think the only one that had actual anime voice actors, most notable Stephanie Sheh, in the cast and not just Hollywood talent. The story was also simple but effective and I liked how the people of the planet connected with the Force.

2 Akakiri was fantastic. It really felt like a samurai movie. It was probably the most stylish one of them all, not including the duel, with absolutely gorgeous animation, and the minimalistic soundtrack. This one actually reminded me quite a bit of Samurai Jack, mixed with an Akira Kurosawa film. It’s also probably one of the darker shorts in this collection. The tone is pretty bleak throughout, due to how the music colors even the more upbeat moments, but there are moments of beauty throughout. The music has a heavy focus on percussion and the whole piece feels very dreamlike. The ending is pretty dark and the way the color red drowns out all of the other colors was fantastic. This is definitely the second strongest of the shorts and it’s the only one where I have no complaints, so it’s a shame that it seems to be one of the least popular shorts. I usually see it hover around sopts 7 or 8 on ranking lists which is a shame and I think it might possibly be due to the art style. Science Saru typically has more out there character designs and the way their animation typically distorts characters to create fluid movements usually seems to be controversial. I quite like the fluidity that this type of style brings to the table, but I know it takes some people out of the moment as many like characters to remain on the model and not distort to create fluid animation. However I really vibe with this studio’s style, and this is the one that I really want to see expanded on later down the line, but unlike with Lop and Ocho, it’s because it was so good that I want more. It’s pretty much the perfect short, but there was one that I liked more

1 The Ninth Jedi ended up being my favorite. It was one of my most anticipated, partially because of the trailer shot where Kara uses her saber to destroy a speeder, and mostly because it was directed by Kenji Kamiyama as he was the director of one of my favorite series, Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex, as well as Serei no Moribito, and Eden of the East. This did not disappoint. I really loved the concept of the color of the lightsaber being dependent on each person’s connection with the force, and it also had a pretty good story. It also had a pretty cool twist, which was spoiled for me, but it was still really cool. I think this also probably had the best action out of all of them with the speeder chase throughout the forest and the final lightsaber fight being extremely well animated. This is also the longest of the shorts, with it being a full 23 minutes, and it made excellent use of that time. This is the one I want a sequel to the most, as this feels a lot like a fantastic pilot episode for a full series, and in the behind-the-scenes look at this episode Production I.G wants to do more as well, so hopefully, we’ll get it. I’d really like a full 13 episode tv series, but I’d also be fine with a 40-50 minute OVA or a full movie.

So in conclusion I consider this project a complete success, not all of the shorts were great, but there were none that were outright bad, and the top 3 were truly amazing. The real weakness of this project was that some of these shorts feel like they’re too short to tell the story that the filmmakers want to tell, so hopefully, if we get more they’ll allow the studios to go longer with the shorts. It still remains to be seen how popular this ends up being, but it seems to be fairly well-received by the fandom, or at least the audience ratings on the review aggregate website still appear to be decent, so I’m hopeful we’ll get more of this.

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#1449014
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FanEdit Reviews - Post Your Reviews Here
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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Revisited (Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 and 2) Anjohan

Deathly Hallows is very interesting as an adaption due to it being split into two parts. The first film is way more faithful to the book and slow-paced, while the second film is by design more action-packed, but also has many changes from the book. Some of these improve the film but others worsen the impact of the story. Looking at the runtime for the edit it’s 3.5 hours so there’s a lot that ended up on the cutting room floor, nearly 1 hour, and I was interested to see which of the two halves would have the most stuff cut. Just like Half-Blood Prince, Deathly Hallows is the most fan-edited Potter movie, but I saw things in this that I’ve never seen another Potter Edit even attempt. First off I was very impressed by the addition and integration of the deleted scenes. A few of the ones added have never been used in other fan edits and were inserted without breaking the pacing of the film. There are also some flashes of clips from the previous movies added that were flawlessly inserted.

Pretty much all of the cuts in this edit are seamless, the action scenes have some stuff removed that you would never notice unless you’ve seen the film many times before. Several moments of humor have also been removed which makes the tone more pervasively dark. It also removes a few scenes from the first half that I barely noticed was gone. I was also wondering if a certain subplot would be removed, specifically because one of the other edits also removed a similar subplot, and was pleasantly surprised to see it remain. I think it does actually improve the series to have this be removed from the earlier film in which it occurs but remain in this one because it serves a better narrative, to be here than previously. I’m being very careful not to spoil because I think the edit should be watched as blind as possible.

It was impressive how much was able to be removed from the movie and have it be seamless a lot is cut from part one but almost none of it is noticeable. There were only a few edits I don’t think worked. One of them was the transition from part 1 to part 2. It’s kind of hard to explain why, but I think it’s a mix of replacing Dobby’s death theme with A Window To The Past, and cutting out them burying him. It just removed the emotional impact for me, and I just didn’t feel as cut by the death as I usually am. The other edit that didn’t work is the removal of them first trying to get into Gringotts. They get to Diagon Alley and then we almost immediately transition into the mine cart sequence and suddenly there’s a new character we haven’t been introduced to. I understand that at 3.5 hours the movie is already long enough as it is, but that scene removal doesn’t really work and it would only be 1 or 2 extra minutes.

The only other edit I don’t quite think worked was the movement of the Harry and Dumbledore moment. I was fine with the removal of Narcissa in the forest scene, but putting the King’s Cross moment right after the school sees Harry dead just kills the pacing. The movie is building up to a crescendo and then it just stops mid-track and then when it picks up again it’s too sudden. I think the original placement is better.

Despite my complaints, this is probably the best of the Revisited edits. It’s really ambitious in what it’s trying to do and almost all of it works. That there were only 3 moments in the edit where I felt there were some poor choices shows that the positives vastly outweigh the negatives. The only other negative I have to say is that the visual quality of the edit wasn’t always the best. Specifically, in some of the really dark scenes, I noticed a lot of grain and noise in the image, although it could just be the video software I’m running on my computer. I’ll definitely download the 4k version once that’s done. I think this is probably the best edit of Deathly Hallows and while I had some issues I can’t recommend this enough.

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#1342559
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The 'Final' Season Of The Simpsons (Possible Team Project?)
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This is a really interesting idea, so I decided to take a crack at it. I’m not too sure how useful this would be for your purposes, because I’m not sure where you consider the drop-off to occur. I definitely agree with most people that the drop off started in seasons 9 or 10, but I still think the show is still pretty decent for seasons 10-20. Personally I didn’t really start watching the show until I was around 9 or 10, which is around seasons 14-16, so I probably have a much better reaction to seasons 10-20 than others. I stopped watching the show halfway through season 21. For me, Season 14, is the last season before the decline had fully taken effect. There are definitely still some really good gems throughout the widescreen HD seasons of the show, but most of my list is from seasons 15 and 16, with a handful of episodes from seasons 17-19 and I tried to find at least 1 from every season of the show after that. I tried to find episodes that tackled contemporary issues, as the show’s best episodes are often ones that tackle semi-serious subject manner, episodes that focus on certain character’s relationships, and those that bring a sense of closure for specific characters. I put an R next to episodes that I’m not sure should be in this hypothetical final season.

1 S15 My Mother The Carjacker (Closure for Mona Simpson)
2 S15 Today I Am A Clown (Closure for Krusty)
3 S15 My Big Fat Greek Wedding (Closure for Skinner and Edna)
4 S15 The Way We Weren’t
5 S16 Future Drama
6 S16 Sleeping With The Enemy (Closure for Nelson
7 S16 She Used To Be My Girl
8 S17 The Monkey Suit R
9 S18 The Mook, The Chef, The Wife and Her Homer
10 S19 The Haw Hawed Couple
11 S18 24 Minutes
12 S20 Sex Pies and Idiot Scrapes
13 S16 There’s Something About Marrying (Closure for Patty)
14 S16 Goo Goo Gai Plan (Closure for Patty)
15 S18 The Wife Aquatic R
16 S19 Eternal Moonshine of the Simpson Mind
17 S19 Mona Leaves A (Closure for Mona Simpson)
18 S22 The Neediest Catch R
19 S23 Ned ’n’ Edna’s Blend Agenda R
20 S31 Thanksgiving of Horror
21 S23 The Book Job
22 S24 The Saga of Carl R
23 S25 Steal This Episode
24 S26 Simpsorama
25 S30 Bart vs Itchy and Scratchy
26 S30 Woo-Hoo Dunnit
27 S27 Barthood
28 S29 Mr. Lisas Opus R
29 S23 Holidays of Futures Passed

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#1312339
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I’m kind of new here but I have some ideas on how to edit Rise of Skywalker. Before that, it’s starting to seem to me that how much people enjoy this movie is inversely proportional to how much they liked Last Jedi. Those who hated Last Jedi seem to really like this one while those who loved Last Jedi seem to hate this movie. I seem to be an outlier where I loved Last Jedi, it’s my second favorite, but I also loved Rise of Skywalker. There might be more deleted scenes to work with, I hope so, but as of this moment here’s what I would do.

First off I’d like to see if we can remove Chewbacca’s fake death. It’s a cheap attempt at emotional manipulation that almost completely ruins the tension in the final battle. This might also necessitate the removal of the Force battle between Kylo Ren and Rey with the transport. I’d like to remove this because people die and come back to life way too often in this movie. In keeping with the removal of Chewie’s fake death, I’d like the remove Zori Bliss from the end of the movie. I don’t think this would be too difficult, as I don’t remember too many shots of her in the final battle/ending. Having her actually die on the planet when it blows up actually gives some more emotional weight, even though she’s an extremely minor character I’d leave in the stuff with C3PO because they mine it for the best comedy in the trilogy. I’m fine with it because he’s a droid and not a human, so the explanation they use makes sense.

Another change I’m flirting with is removing Han from the film. Mostly because it’s literally just Harrison Ford and Adam Driver repeating their lines from the Force Awakens. We can just have a shot of Ben looking pensive and then throwing away his saber. Again I may or may not cut this because I’m not opposed to having this in.

My most controversial change would be removing Rey being Palpatine’s Granddaughter. It just raises way more questions than it answers, and it just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. It’s also way too similar to Kylo Ren’s arc for my liking. I’m not sure how doable this would be, but I’d love to see this as I loved how she was a nobody in Last Jedi

I also like the idea of removing the opening fight scene between Kylo Ren and the villagers provided deleted scenes don’t flesh this out more.

I might also see if we can remove Ben bringing Rey back to life. That would remove their kiss which I do like, but I don’t like the idea of bringing another character who we thought was dead back to life. The film does this way too often already. I’d just change it so Rey doesn’t die at the end, and the last we see of Ben is him getting flung off the cliff by Palpatine. As I’m typing this the idea is losing its appeal because it makes Ben’s arc feel incomplete. I don’t think I’ll do this, but I’ll leave it in in case anyone wants to try and go with this.

One other change I’d like to see is the removal of Rey’s healing abilities. I’m not sure how doable this would be, but I do have an idea of how to pull it off. Just have Rey not stab Kylo Ren with the saber. After Ben stops, I’d like to see if there’s a shot of him sitting down, and then we could immediately cut to Rey’s conversation on how she did want to take his hand.

A final change I’d like to see is the removal of the final scene on Tattooine as it’s really unnecessary and only serves to justify the lackluster and overly silly title. I’d have the film end on the fade to black after Rey, Finn, and Poe hug. This would also prompt a change to the title of the film. Maybe it could be called Rise of the Jedi instead.