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#524167
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Your Friendly Guide on Belittling Your Neighbor's Beliefs (pamphlet for distribution is pending)
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TheBoost said:

darth_ender said:

My biggest point here is not where I am coming from, necessarily, but rather that I tire of religious bigotry, regardless of who is the target.  But I certainly leaned towards the unspoken rules utilized by so many that allow for the criticism of certain faiths and the...what's the word...untouchability(?) of other faiths.

What world are we in that Jews and Muslims are "untouchable" to criticism? Is this an EU thing?

I think you're missing the point my friend.  I never said that they were truly untouchable.  Reread that underlined sentence and notice the phrase "unspoken rules utilized by so many."  My point here is not that nobody criticizes them, nor that there is no merit for some criticism about one thing or another.  My point is that so many who claim to oppose bigotry or anything that promotes hatred are extremely defensive about certain religions that they will justify practically anything, while they are mercilessly quick to point out and emphasize the mistakes made by other faiths, most notably conservative, white evangelical Christians.

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#523969
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Your Friendly Guide on Belittling Your Neighbor's Beliefs (pamphlet for distribution is pending)
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My biggest point here is not where I am coming from, necessarily, but rather that I tire of religious bigotry, regardless of who is the target.  But I certainly leaned towards the unspoken rules utilized by so many that allow for the criticism of certain faiths and the...what's the word...untouchability(?) of other faiths.  My point is that all people are bigots and utilize hateful speech, whether they be the insensitive right wing or the "fair-minded" left.

EDIT: I should note that there was deliberately a lot of vaguery in my post.  I just wanted those who took the time to read it (we won't specify any Goblin King fans or anything) to think a bit before they make further blanket statements.  Much of the same principle applies to bigotry of all brands.

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#523932
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Your Friendly Guide on Belittling Your Neighbor's Beliefs (pamphlet for distribution is pending)
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I don't like what Bill down the street believes, and I want to express my feelings.  Well, that's easy, you say?  Think again!  You must know your audience and those who might overhear you.  You must memorize the Tome of All Things Politically Correct.  You may want to brush up on the supplementary volume Racists! Phrases that Have Nothing to Do with Racism but Can Be Twisted to Imply Racism as well.  You must remember what year you're in, as there are fashionable and unfashionable times to slam and slander someone's faith.  But since this is a lot of reading and research, I will summarize some basic rules that will allow you to feel superior to your fellowman without media bulldogs being called on you.

1) This rule you must never forget: Muslims are better than everyone else!  You must never, never, ever say anything disparaging towards Muslims, as it is sheer coincidence that so many terrorist plots have been done in the name of Islam.  99.979302% (+ or - .000001 certainty) of Muslims on this earth want nothing but peace, love, rainbows, and would vote for gay marriage, abortion, and liberal politicians every time.

2) In spite of the above statement so strongly stated, there is an exception to the rule: If you are addressing a small, like-minded audience with no media presence, no snitches, and preferably far right evangelical Christians or Michael Savage listeners, then you can make whatever blanket statements you like about every living Muslim on the earth, and assure everyone listening that all Muslims are out to destroy the U.S. and your neighbor three doors down has plans to take over your neighborhood association and build a mosque in your front lawn.

3) Speaking of evangelical Christians: These are hypocrites, ignoramuses, and bigots and legislation is already in the works to include these people in dictionaries and thesauri under the above mentioned terms.  These people are the roots of hate, savagery, and evil in this country, and no hesitation should ever be made in labeling them as such.  The more they are stigmatized, the sooner they'll give up their stubborn ways and join in PRIDE marches in San Francisco.

4) Once again, despite strong wording to the contrary, there is an exception to the above rule: If the evangelical Christian church in question is a black church, then all members are extremely intelligent, thoughtful, fun-loving, and accepting of people of all races.

5) Catholics are an interesting case: If Whoopi Goldberg leads the choir program, then Catholics are okay.  If we're talking about Catholics who go to church on Easter and Christmas, then you might actually have to rely on a case by case basis, though we are of course seeking to avoid such dreadful shortcuts with these rules.  If they are regular attendees at mass, then beware, these are little better than the Evangelicals.

6) Jews are always good!  Always!  No exceptions!  Oh, except when they are Israeli Jews, in which case their goodness is trumped by the "betterness" of the Palestinian Muslims that are tread upon by these vile, land-stealing usurpers.  There is not a good Israeli among them.  Remember this distinction: all Jews are good, but all Israelis are bad.  As long as you keep it in this context, no one will notice any discrepencies.

7) Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, and other related groups are free for criticism from many angles because they are just plain weird.  If you happen to be a mainstream Christian, put them in your catalogue of cults.  If you are a non-Christian believer, such as Jewish or Muslim, then you may want to lump them with other other Christians, and call them as you see fit (antisemites, Crusaders, imperialists, whatever you like).  If you are not a believer in any religion, then just judge them all as among the hypocrites and the crazies.  Bear in mind, though these faiths represent a minority belief system, they do not represent a minority race, which permits this kind of slander.  And on that topic, let's look at our next rule...

8) As a general rule, if a religion is frequently associated with a race (i.e. Buddhism to Asians, Hinduism to Indians, tribal religions to whatever race of tribes [even the violent ones], and the aforementioned Muslims and Black Evangelicals), then you cannot say anything about them.  They are good.  They are great!  They lead to the betterment of mankind, no questions asked.  You cannot tread on their untainted system, whether it simply involves respectfully burying their dead or eating the flesh of other humans.

9) If you are an atheist, agnostic, or other semantically nuanced non-believer: rule 8 only applies when used with specific religions.  You can simply state that all religions are throwbacks to humanity's primitive superstitions and needs for comforting Higher Power, and that they have led to every heinous act committed on this planet.  But do not delve into any specific religions under the above named rules, else you automatically are cast as a racist.

10) An extension of the above rule allows for greater freedom among atheist critics: When dealing with a Christian person who murdered in the name of their God, no matter how much other members of that faith try to disassociate themselves from that member, no matter how mentally unstable the perpetrator may prove to be, no matter how out of line his/her actions are with the beliefs of the general membership, make sure you tie the assailant's actions to the faith he/she claims to hold.  Never forget, your superior intellect allows you to make these judgments in all fairness.

11) If you are a religious person, and you learn that an atheist individual, group, or state has committed crimes against humanity, you cannot in your wildest dreams associate their crime with their non-belief.  Remember, they don't believe in any deity.  So no matter how their non-belief has shaped their views of the universe, whether it be animal rights, plant rights, the rights of microbes, the rights of dirt, communism, fascism (remember, religion was merely a political tool for fascist leaders), believers that all religions are evil and must be eliminated, those who seek entropy, etc., you cannot ever tie those views to their lack of belief in a divine being.  Atheists are a poor, downtrodden group who are not generally trusted in the U.S.  It's not like they hold power or influence or anything.  If you criticize anyone for not believing in God, then you are an intolerant imbecile.

12) Bear in mind that it's only 2011.  In ten years, these rules will have changed, and you may have a greater playing field.  You may be able to condemn any faith you like.  But beware, as you may find yourself more and more restricted to white, conservative Christian males.  You shape the future of what is okay to say and what is "hateful," so get out there and make a difference!

 

I hope this guide has proved helpful.  It sure makes it easier to know when, how, and whom you can insult without receiving a death warrant from some ecclesiastical leader or the PC Police.  Suggestions for future publications may be submitted in this thread.

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#523881
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When You Are a Movie/TV Character...
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doubleKO said:

You can fix a timeline by changing one thing, regardless of how you otherwise interfere.

You can sober up completely in a few minutes no matter how drunk you are.

You have recently noticed that bugs are of a remarkably consistent size and that their behaviour is governed by algorithms.

You would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for those meddling kids.

One of my favorite lists, in spite of how short.

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#523569
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Which Batman film is your favorite?
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skyjedi2005 said:

Without the Spirit or the Shadow, Batman the comic probably would not exist, and Bob Kane gets all the credit for it when he was not the only creative hand in it.

Its like Stan Lee taking all the credit for Marvel, and Jack Kirby is forgotten.

 

Xhonzi i think the public opinion on comics goes back to the creation of the comics code and the censoreship which shut down EC comics because they would not do censored books.

Also they claimed the comics had a bad influence on children and it was Communists influencing kids, commie propaganda.

 

Politicians especially the Religious right violated the sovereign rights of Americans freedom of speech, with this censorship its just like pre code Hollywood before they came in and cleaned up all the sex and nudity to appease hard right Christians.

Too bad in time even liberals got in on censorship like AL Gore's Ex wife.

I remember at my old university newspaper, a black comic author wrote a comic that had the 'N' word in it.  I have never see such an outrage!  There were demands for resignations and sensitivity training.  Never mind how many statements about Christians, Israelis (because you can be anti-Israel and yet not antisemitic somehow), your mother sleeping with the mailman, etc. were stated in the paper.  Liberals are interestingly selective in what they censor: if it's vulgar, it's okay; if it's offensive towards certain minorities (and not all minorities, mind you, only special cases), then off with their heads!

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#523564
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What are you reading?
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CP3S said:

darth_ender said:

But as for the audiobooks, I'm currently listening to The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader (my least favorite so far).

That one is my favorite! A lot better than the second book, that one and the Magician's Nephew are the ones I like the least.

I finished this one, and I do like it, but...I think my biggest problem with it was the lack of a real overarching conflict.  The whole thing that ties it together is silly Reepicheep (who had some good lines) wanting to prove his valor by going as far east as he could.  It seemed like nothing more than a bunch of subplots.  But for what it was, in the end I liked it better than I expected.

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#523559
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What exactly did Han pull?
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Nah, I think there must have been something.

CHEWBACCA: Grunts.

HAN: Well that was a long time ago.  I'm sure he's completely forgotten about that.

...and...

HAN: (To Leia) See?  My friend.  (To Chewbacca) Keep your eyes open, huh?

 

And of course, the fact that Han won his ship.  I like to think there were other hiccups in their friendship, not just the ship.  Perhaps Han "borrowed" a cup of sugar and never repaid.

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#523558
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Worst dialogue from...........AOTC!!!
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TV's Frink said:

twooffour said:

The Techo Union EEEOOOHHHEEEEEHHOOHHEEOOEEOEEHHH

Yeah, that's pretty awful.

"Anakin!" (spoken by Padme as she hugs him after the fight with Dooku).

Bear with me here, and correct me if I'm wrong.  The Jedi aren't supposed to get attached.  Padme runs up and hugs Anakin (and ignores Obi-Wan) right in front of both Obi-Wan and fracking Yoda!  And yet they aren't suspicious.

Grrrrr....

Of course, this is from the novels which nobody on this site considers worthwhile, but in Ep. II Obi-Wan actually strongly suspects and voices his concerns to Mace Windu when Anakin is assigned to protect Padme.  Mace tells him it's a part of his growth and testing to keep his emotions in check.  In the novel for Ep. III, Obi-Wan states that he knew all along that they were involved, and not just when he states, "Anakin is the father, isn't he?"  But what's that worth to you?

As for staying on topic..."Get 'im, Dad!  Get 'im!"

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#522944
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Which Batman film is your favorite?
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Warbler said:

btw,  darth_ender,  why did you create 3 threads to discuss the exact same subject and start off all three threads with the exact same post?

 I'd like to say simply to see how many questions and comments I could get about it.

 

A better explanation would be because I was at a McDonald's with a poor internet connection and it kept saying the post didn't go through.  Then I checked and realized it went through three times.

 

But let's say the real reason I did it was so I could get Frink to notice me.  I live for attention from him ;P

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#522401
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Which Batman film is your favorite?
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I personally liked him and thought he did his job well.  I think a big problem for many is the comparison of the film with the source material.  Comics, novels, TV series, and films are all vastly different media used to tell a story.  You can't always keep characters identical to their source.  That being said, I appreciate a film that shows respect for the original stories and characters, but why bother making a movie if it's nothing but a rehash of a pre-existing story?  Lord of the Rings, which is surprisingly faithful, took many liberties in order to tell its tale in a logical and interesting manner.

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#522400
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In Defense of Death Star II
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skyjedi2005 said:

In the new Zahn book choices of one we find out death star II was being built 8 months after the first one was destroyed, even before the events of empire strikes back, even before the rebels were on hoth.

I know that is EU and not G-Canon but it would not be any less ridiculous if it was.

 Well, according to G-canon as well, the DSI had labor strikes and that sort of thing holding it up for years, while everything was perfected by the time DSII was on the way.  Of course this still doesn't make much sense, and the way I figure, the DSII must have actually already been under construction by the time DSI was completed.

Hmmm...just noticed that for some reason you're ignoring me, so I guess you'll never read my reply.  I guess that's what I get for sparring with 2/4, or for being silly about the spelling thing in the first place...or maybe that cloned thread problem.  Who knows?  All else may bask in my wisdom.

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#522398
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Which Batman film is your favorite?
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DuracellEnergizer said:

This has been on my mind for some time, so I'll just say it and get it over with.

The Nolanverse Scarecrow sucks.

The Scarecrow is one of Batman's best villains in the comics/animated series, a truly fucked up psycho with a messed up past. In BB and TDK he's reduced to nothing more than a third tier villain with a burlap sack on his head. He doesn't even get a decent costume.

 Glad to have that off your chest?

Funny thing is, I think this thread has turned into confession.  "Forgive me, father, for I don't like an aspect of the Nolan Batman series."

Well, DuracellEnergizer, all is forgiven.  Go in peace.

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#522383
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The ANH:SE Redux Ideas thread (Radical Ideas Welcome).
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It's good and I certainly do like it.  I myself would probably prefer a change to the PT where Anakin says to Padme something about raising their child in the ways of the Jedi, probably on Mustafar while Obi-Wan is on the ramp of Padme's ship and Anakin hasn't seen him yet.  But for all intents and purposes, it's a seamless audio edit, Shadow.

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#522362
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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Just a thought to make the ending more doable, as much has been said critiquing the realism of the Ewoks and a dozen rebels defeating a legion of the Emperor's best troops.  I've not thought it through enough to consider available footage, just a concept.

The Rebels allow themselves to be captured upon reaching the bunker.  The Ewoks ambush the Imperials.  While the soldiers are distracted, Han successfully hotwires the bunker door and he and a few Rebels enter.  Use the deleted scene coming in the Blu-ray to show a battle within the bunker.  Han manages to sabotage the generator, and from there...I don't know how he escapes.  It just occurred to me.  Someone else can take it from here if they want, and perhaps explore if it's even feasible with available footage.

As Queen Amidala said: [using as little emotion as possible] "The battle is a diversion."

Any thoughts?

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#522355
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In Defense of Death Star II
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It isn't a typo.  The original numbers were canon once (120 and 160), but then somebody with too much time on thier hands started calculating the sizes of the stations in relation to the ships as they enter hangar bays, the Executor crashing, the size in relation to Endor, etc.  Thereafter the sizes were inflated with DSII being ridiculously large at 900 km, with DSI a mere 160 km.

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#522350
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What are you reading?
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I'm finally getting around to reading Dune, but I am simultaneously reading The Secret History of Star Wars.  I am a fairly fast reader, but I literally only get to read while I sit on the pot.  Most of the books I get through are actually audio books while I drive for work (some days I spend around 4-5 hours on the road), and I'm pretty demanding when it comes to those, only willing to listen to unabridged versions.  The reader for Dune was pretty lame, though, and as the book is complex, I figured I'd get more details if I read it myself.  The Secret History of Star Wars is interesting; I'd love to read the officially published version, as I'm currently just working through the pdf.

But as for the audiobooks, I'm currently listening to The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader (my least favorite so far).

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#522125
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When You Are a Movie/TV Character...
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You hold the higher moral ground because your refuse to let a (somewhat) innocent character die in order to defeat an overpowering enemy who will kill millions more innocents now that they've been allowed to survive.

You always end up winning in hand to hand combat with an enemy who could have shot you from a distance, but prefers to enjoy every moment of killing you with bare hands.

One or two good punches from you cause the same amount of damage to your opponent as his lengthy, ongoing beating, despite the fact that he is in far better shape than you.

You never have to worry about pregnancy or STDs in spite of the fact that you and your partner are as loyal and monogamous as dogs in the streets.

If you serve in the military, you and all your good brothers-in-arms seem to share the political views of Hollywood studio elites in spite of the fact that most military personnel seem to vote the other way.

Your superior officers are always willing to sacrifice countless innocent lives and historical/cultural objects in exchange for economic benefit (i.e. James Cameron's [insert any title here]).

Your hair and makeup are always perfect after a full night's sleep, even if you're a man.

We never can see your hands and face simultaneously when you play the piano.

You may get beaten to a pulp, but your second or third wind will allow you to take out your opponent with a couple of good hits.

Germans are always evil Nazis or brilliant scientists.

You can dodge a bullet, even after it's already been fired.

If you live in a small town, you can bet you're on the bad side of the local ecclesiastical leader.

If you're black, you can make as many disparaging comments about whites, Asians, or whichever race you like, because it sounds funny in Ebonics.

You can drive better in reverse than most people going forward.

You are more attractive than about 95% of the human race.