Fantastic video! We all understand that real life already takes precedence during ‘normal’ times. These are certainly not normal times. Take all the time you need! Thank you for sharing! Stay safe!
I love this!
Jay Benedict
Interestingly, while he is famous for many roles, he has an obscure Star Wars claim to fame, having played Deak in the deleted Tosche Station scene.
It would be cool to add more types of ships to the Battle of Endor. Don’t know if you’ve finished the visuals for that battle, but adding Interdictors, Victory-Class Star Destroyers, and Y-Wings would make the battle grander. Also TIE Defenders and maybe TIE Advanceds would be awesome.
Yeah, this is almost my wishlist! Never been a big fan of the overpowered TIEs, as I’ve always seen them as expendable machines and personnel in favor of the powerful capital ships. However, I have thought it a travesty since the prequels that they never incorporated the Victory-class, and I always have hoped someone would include them. I certainly wouldn’t mind the Interdictors, as I was a fan of the West End Games RPG, nor would I mind the Clone Wars era Y-wings, as those are just cool, IMHO.
Oh well. Maybe some fan film will do something like this one day.
I agree about using Shaw instead of Christiansen in an otherwise identical shot. The individual who created that shot differed, but the concept is interesting. I’m not sure I understand your suggestion though.
Getting slapped in the face with an octopus is one of my fantasies.
I’d rather the slapper be a woman in a seal costume than an actual seal, however.
Idk…I’ve had a phase being sexually into dolphins. Seals are also sea mammals so…
You all give this song a new level of reality I never thought I’d see.
I don’t know if this is exactly what Adywan is thinking, but I still really love this idea. To me, it is a very moving ending and I hope he adopts something like this.
https://vimeo.com/51457067#t=19m55s
Password: ROTJ
Credit for the effects go to the long lost aalenfae.
There is indeed a curse regarding this cut. I lack the talent and the time to ever make anything like this reality, though I can dream! I can offer suggestions, but someone else will have to complete this, hopefully with a vision similar to mine. What I intend to do is finish up a low-quality version of this that I have nearly finished, then call it quits. I have too little time in life for this, lack decent software, and lack the skills. But if it can simply be somewhat enjoyable and a model for others interested in patterning work after, then I will be pleased. I hate to set deadlines on these things because I will likely miss any such timelines, but I hope I can simply finish up my work on this, post it for others to appreciate and perfect, and be done with it. Watch this space. I believe I can get this done fairly soon!
Ronster: Able to leap chasms of logic in a single bound! 😉
Looking great so far! I hope you will continue to pursue this very worthwhile goal!
I only pop in and out nowadays and very rarely comment, but I’m happy to see you, Bingo. 🙂
Many of the storybook pictures were absolutely not deleted scenes. They often would composite different elements together for the storybook and collector cards space scenes. You can search the Internet and find other pictures with many of the same elements as you find in this pictures, clearly the exact same shot, but superimposed in a different manner.
Consider how much work went into making space scenes in those days. How could they so easily discard completed scenes? How much easier is it to simply photograph a few elements and splice them together for publicity purposes.
On the other hand, the scene you refer to with Vader, Tarkin, and Motti (which involves no space shots) was an early FX shot with special effects projected onto the background rather than matted in later. Note that there is no composition necessary in such a shot. Yes, it is a deleted, alternate take on the scene where Tarkin decides to “set course for Alderaan.”
By the way, the picture does look a lot like Yavin and your thumb looks a lot more natural in this version of the shot that you took:
However, once again, this last picture is not a deleted scene or alternate shot of a classic scene, but again, ships composited together.
I enjoy the simple touch of the star destroyer hangar bay hook actually grasping the Tantive IV. Subtle but now essential!
Nice to see you again ender. I’m aware of how the EU portrayed things, but in regards to this topic, ady has stated he’s not taking that material into his account for his edit.
Nice to see you, too! I’m not advocating that Adywan use Legends EU to guide his vision. I’m simply pointing out that early EU was shaped by the OT alone, and that this was their perception. I had not drawn that conclusion at the time, but I was only 11 or 12 when first reading that material. Nevertheless, it left a lasting impression on me that the Empire was that way, and that I simply hadn’t picked up on the cues in my childhood. It has shaped my thinking of the OT at the time and still persists to this day.
As I pointed out, if it ever was the intention, it obviously no longer was by the time the prequels came out. Personally, I feel it makes the Empire seem more evil.
Either way, it’s up to Ady. I was just sharing my perspective of why it made sense and seemed the way the Empire was for a while.
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I probably will still seldom post, but I felt I wanted to jump in for a bit and I believe I will resume participation from time to time. I think I’ve had enough time to cool off and I feel the general environment here has drastically improved.
In the early '90s when I was first exposed to the Legends EU, the Empire’s racism and sexism was EU canon at the very least. Bear in mind the significance of Grand Admiral Thrawn’s elevated rank being even more amazing, as he was the non-human to earn the Emperor’s respect and achieve such a high status. The “Declaration of Rebellion” furthered this as EU canon.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Declaration_of_Rebellion/Legends
And remember, there are no aliens in the OT films within the Imperial hierarchy. I believe this was likely a subtle allusion to the evils and racism of Naziism. This was picked up on and expanded upon in the EU to include sexism.
Admiral Daala, whom I consider something of a Thrawn ripoff, was the highest-ranking female within the Empire.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Natasi_Daala
A lot of this was clearly eliminated with the coming forth of the prequels and Palpatine’s alien and female advisors…
…but I believe many of the time interpreted the Empire as a racist, sexist regime.
That’s not to say they wouldn’t necessarily use women in a lowly role as cannon fodder, but I am largely in agreement with ray_afraid’s appraisal of the Empire’s bigotry, at least taking into account only pre-1999 material.
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Hate to say it, but I’m obviously going to lose this game, and I’m also losing interest in this site. Sorry to do this a bit prematurely, but I resign.
For what it’s worth, this forum takes too much of my time and energy. I know the regulars here will criticize me for what I’m about to do. I know that two years from now, someone will say something like, “Remember when darth_ender took his ball and went home?” Regardless, I think I should just give greater energy to real life and stop wasting it trying to be friends with Internet people, especially people who really don’t care. Overall, it’s been a pleasant seven-ish years, people. I’m sure I’ll continue to read the threads I care about. I am just going to log out on all my devices and don’t intend to log back in much if ever again. Thank you for the enjoyable interactions. I mean that sincerely.
Anyway, knock the holier-than-thou attitude on the head.
Really? This is the post you reply to?
Because when you’re a mod, you can’t be wrong publicly.
I think many on here have some, if not varying degrees of all of those flaws you posted there d_e, yourself included.
If you’re going to try and use this thread to try and goad Frink - or carry on/escalate from the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread - then think on mate.
Of course we all have such flaws. But there is no doubt that Frink’s character is unique to this forum, usually in a pleasant sense, periodically to an aggravating sense.
However, I am not trying to goad or escalate anything. I was trying to follow mrebo’s advice from that thread:
To be honest, I genuinely feel you’re not as enjoyable or nice as you used to be. Or maybe I’m just nicer than I used to be, leading me to sit on my high horse. 😛
I think you and Warb are just suffering faulty memory, but ok.
Im getting flashbacks of the Luke Skywalker debate. I think Frink is as delightful as ever 🐣
I think we should give the dead the respect they deserve in this thread and not get bogged down in petty internecine fights (definition provided for Dom’s benefit).
I don’t see how I am goading him. I was not rude or disrespectful. I am trying to converse in a more appropriate thread about what I feel is a problem. I am handling it in a very adult-like fashion, and frankly, I don’t need a moderator to tell me how to talk with another adult unless things get out of hand. So far, I don’t believe we’re even close to that point.
What’s more, you swooped in on my comment in the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread because a lack of careful phrasing made it look like a portion of my comment was a broad generalization, even though the latter part of the comment should have clarified. You quickly corrected me and stated that I shouldn’t generalize (to which I agreed) and presumably accepted my point that liberals and atheists should be respectful of religious/conservative individuals who have died. Literally, you castigated me for not using the word ‘many’ in one of two appropriate places. Meanwhile, Frink’s disrespectful comments, both before and after that, received no moderation, and they were clearly far more offensive.
Following all this, I come to this thread to carry on what I hope will be a productive conversation and where Frink might actually acknowledge that he has been ruder lately, and whom do you call out? Me. Never mind the goading that Frink gives chyron8472 routinely. Never mind the harassment that he leveled against Warbler in the NFL thread leading up to the Super Bowl, refusing for pages to acknowledge that he should back down. Never mind the instances where he decides to pick on yhwx and where it clearly is hurting his feelings. Never mind his lack of remorse on most of these occasions. No, call out darth_ender, who 95% of the time tries to be the peace maker. I really appreciate that.
I didn’t say you were goading him - I said ‘If you’re going to try and use this thread to try and goad Frink…’, yes?
As for you ‘…don’t need a moderator to tell me how to talk with another adult unless things get out of hand’ - well… given your posts to/re Frink in the ‘Just Died’ thread, coupled with your loaded post in here - so I will step in, and try to diffuse something from continuing or escalating further. (Edit - It’s gone well in this thread since I’ve been out for a couple of hours and not stepped in, hasn’t it?)
As for Frink’s comments in the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread - if you have an issue with them then let a mod know via PM. I took issue with your comments about ‘non-religious peeps and liberals’ as ‘they seem to celebrate the death of a prominent Christian figure’ - which was not the case at all, was it? Hence I pulled you up on it.
‘the harassment that he leveled against Warbler in the NFL thread leading up to the Super Bowl’…? you mean the posting of a pic of an ex-player every time Warbler posted ‘Go Eagles’? Or is there something else? Did Frink not apologise and stop?
‘Never mind the goading that Frink gives chyron8472 routinely’ - that seems to be two-way thing, no? And since chyron’s return to the site it seems that chyron is giving Frink barrels over Frink’s posts.
‘Never mind the instances where he decides to pick on yhwx and where it clearly is hurting his feelings’ - I am not aware of this. yhwx - please let a mod know if you have any issues with what d_e is alluding to.
If anyone here has an issue with posts made by certain members they can let a mod know - as they have always been able to do. Or maybe you don’t want a mod trying to diffuse a situation with you & Frink (you having a pop at him) - but do want mods to get involved when Frink has a pop (according to you) at others? It certainly seems that way…
Anyway, knock the holier-than-thou attitude on the head.
No, as I have expressed repeatedly, I don’t want mods jumping in. But if you do feel this need to correct us like children, I’d prefer you correct all of us equally.
I don’t see how I am goading him. I was not rude or disrespectful. I am trying to converse in a more appropriate thread about what I feel is a problem. I am handling it in a very adult-like fashion, and frankly, I don’t need a moderator to tell me how to talk with another adult unless things get out of hand.
Your proud declaration that your are in fact handling this an adult manner is what I’m talking about with the “holier than thou” attitude. You keep calling yourself out on your own supposed good deeds.
I love how that’s not at all what I was doing. What I was saying is that, considering how often I try to do the right thing, I don’t think it’s very fair that I am the one getting called out by a moderator.
Here’s more of the quite vain appearance you’ve projected to the world in your thread. Always emphasizing the good-doer that you are. Stuff those other folks. You feel that you know best. At least that’s how it appears. It also doesn’t help that your posts are quite wordy and rambling. That doesn’t project a good feeling to the reader.
Also, LOL at wordy and rambling posts. I guess when you specialize in one- to three-word replies, anything else would seem wordy.
I don’t see how I am goading him. I was not rude or disrespectful. I am trying to converse in a more appropriate thread about what I feel is a problem. I am handling it in a very adult-like fashion, and frankly, I don’t need a moderator to tell me how to talk with another adult unless things get out of hand.
Your proud declaration that your are in fact handling this an adult manner is what I’m talking about with the “holier than thou” attitude. You keep calling yourself out on your own supposed good deeds.
I love how that’s not at all what I was doing. What I was saying is that, considering how often I try to do the right thing, I don’t think it’s very fair that I am the one getting called out by a moderator.
Here’s more of the quite vain appearance you’ve projected to the world in your thread. Always emphasizing the good-doer that you are. Stuff those other folks. You feel that you know best. At least that’s how it appears. It also doesn’t help that your posts are quite wordy and rambling. That doesn’t project a good feeling to the reader.
So how does one state that he is trying to do the right thing without coming off as holier-than-thou?
I found the reason I started the thread on page 18!
Past couple of days, yes.
Sorry to say this, but I agree.
Don’t be sorry, I can handle it.
Of course, you would also think a grown man could handle another man who is effeminate and/or gay, or a few internet people who think it’s weird that he likes My Little Pony, especially without having to start daydreaming about ripping those people’s throats out, but you’d be wrong.
I don’t wanna give away who it was about in public, though. PM me if you want to know.
Case in point.
Oooh a gotcha moment. You must feel vindicated.
Thing is I’m not denying anything in this thread. I just don’t really care that much.
You’re pretty good at hiding behind your pain, you know. You say you don’t care, but you do. The reason why you behave the way you do is to try to cover it up.
Thanks for the commentary, Dr. Chyron.
Thanks for the sycophantry, Dr. yhwx.
Hmmmm…
It’s obvious you don’t know what the word means.
It’s not even in the Oxford American Dictionary. It’s quite an obscure and arcane word.
So if I were to say you are obnoxious because you like to try to point out how intelligent you are, would this be an equivalent grievance?
And who cares if it’s archaic? I knew that while posting it. The point remains true.
word
wərd/Submit
noun
1.
a single distinct meaningful element of speech or writing, used with others (or sometimes alone) to form a sentence and typically shown with a space on either side when written or printed.
synonyms: term, name, expression, designation, locution, vocable; formalappellation
"the Italian word for “ham”“
verb
1.
choose and use particular words in order to say or write (something).
“he words his request in a particularly ironic way"
synonyms: phrase, express, put, couch, frame, formulate, style; More
exclamationinformal
1.
used to express agreement.
”“That Jay is one dangerous character.” “Word.””Sorry _ender, that’s not a word
It actually is.
