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#1689297
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Are you glad Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney or do you wish he hadn’t?
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I hate that Legends was discontinued in favor of something that doesn’t flesh out the lore as much. I wish Dawn of the Jedi and the potential for similar efforts to flesh out the lore, the Essential Guides, the Lucenoverse, etc. got to continue. I’m sick of everything being “Star Wars: (character name)”. I also hate that the Son of Dathomir and Dark Disciple episodes of TCW haven’t been made and that George’s remaining ideas, whether they’re good or bad, are locked in the Disney Vault. I miss the complete soundtracks for the OT and TPM and I don’t care for Disney’s abuse of copyright laws or their refusal to pay royalties to the authors they employ. Disney has been even worse at acknowleding the existence of the original versions of the movies than George was and has been much more opaque about the production of the movies.

I like Rebels, the Tales of the Jedi episode about Dooku and Yaddle, the episodes of the Bad Batch with Mas Amedda and The Emperor, the references to KOTOR lore throughout The Book of Boba Fett and Andor, and The Acolyte. I like that Disney got Ian McDiarmid to voice Palpatine/Sidious/The Emperor in animation. I like that Tagge leaves the Death Star before its destruction in the post-2014 canon. I enjoyed the hype for the Sequel Trilogy. I enjoyed seeing Nal Hutta in live action in The Mandalorian and Grogu.

As for whether George would have made a Sequel Trilogy if he didn’t sell Lucasfilm or if he wrote the treatments just to encourage Disney to buy Lucasfilm or to get them to pay more, your guess is as good as mine.

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#1660488
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<strong>Pre-PT era lore</strong> | an OT &amp; EU scrapbook resource | additional info &amp; sources welcome
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The entry for “Dark Lord of the Sith” in Star Wars Encyclopedia (1998) says that “Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine were the most recent Dark Lords of the Sith”. Perhaps Sansweet had inside knowledge about the prequels and slipped up when he identified Palpatine as a “Dark Lord of the Sith”?

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#1654845
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What do you HATE about the EU?
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JadedSkywalker said:

Going into the heart of darkness to understand the darkside is exactly what Ulic did. It seems to be something Veitch was interested in, if he used it more than once.

I recall Veitch saying that Carl Jung said that you have to embrace your shadow in order to defeat it or something like that when asked why he had Luke and Ulic try to defeat the dark side from within.

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#1650286
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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Was the intention in 1977-1983 that the Jedi were secretive even before the rise of the Empire and the Jedi Purge? That would explain why Han and Motti don’t believe in The Force, Obi-Wan mentioning that Vader was his pupil and Vader mentioning that Obi-Wan was his master doesn’t lead anyone to realize that Vader is Anakin, and why Luke doesn’t recognize Yoda.

I also find it interesting that Luke seems to hide his meeting with Yoda from the Rebellion in ROTJ.

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#1612342
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<strong>Star Wars (1977)</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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Channel72 said:

Pete Byrdie said:

Greedo talks as though Jabba has already given up on Han and has already put a significant price on his head.

Shortly after, Jabba and Han talk as though Greedo is just Jabba’s lackey and Jabba is looking for Han to pay up, threatening only then to put a bounty on his head.

I agree with all this. Of course, there are ways to rationalize it. Perhaps Greedo is exaggerating Jabba’s anger level in order to trick Han into handing over all the money he owes Jabba - so that Greedo can pocket it, perhaps after killing Han. Greedo tells Han “If you give [the money] to me, I might forget I found you.”

But I agree the whole thing is still very weird - the two scenes are redundant, and suggest entirely different threat levels from Jabba. But early drafts of Star Wars indicate these two scenes were NOT supposed to be mutually exclusive. Both the Greedo scene and the Jabba scene appear together in early drafts, indicating Lucas really did originally want to have both scenes. The best explanation is that Greedo was trying to pocket the money owed to Jabba from Han. His name is “Greedo” after all.

What you linked to isn’t an early draft of the script, but rather a version of the script created after the release of the movie and published in 1979.

Here’s the shooting script:

https://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/star-wars-the-adventures-of-luke-starkiller-revised-fourth-draft/

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#1612318
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Random Musings about the Empire Strikes Back Draft Script
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Gandalf the Cyan said:

It’s unclear whether all of this was Lucas’s concept, or if it was Brackett’s concept that he borrowed.

There’s a city in the clouds in the first 3 drafts of the script for ANH. McQuarrie’s art for this city in the clouds was used for Cloud City in ESB.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_City_of_Alderaan

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#1611597
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What is your personal canon?
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For the Legends Old Republic era:

  • The Sith species rules the galaxy before the Republic.
  • The Force Wars are the event that leads to the first Sith Lords, not the Second Great Schism.
  • The Sith don’t have lightsabers until the Great Hyperspace War.
  • KOTOR happens in 2000 BBY and Revan is the Sith founder mentioned in the TPM novelization. The pre-Republic Sith species Empire (the “True Sith Empire”) takes the place of the Rakata.
  • No Darths before Revan.
  • KOTOR 3 happens as implied by KOTOR 2 instead of SWTOR.
  • Darth Bane is one of Revan’s followers and establishes the Rule of Two shortly after KOTOR 3.
  • From 2000 BBY to 1000 BBY, the Rule of Two Sith openly exist (hence Yoda expects the Sith to be following the Rule of Two in TPM and he recognizes Darth Bane in TCW).

For the Legends prequel era:

  • The real Jaster Mereel doesn’t kill a corrupt superior officer and get exiled from the Journeyman Protectors for it. He leaves the Journeyman Protectors on good terms with them, hence they welcome Boba into their ranks when he claims to be Jaster Mereel.
  • Aside from Mace Windu, characters keep their pre-AOTC lightsaber colors.

For the Legends Original Trilogy era:

  • Splinter of the Mind’s Eye doesn’t happen.
  • The IG-88 story in Tales of the Bounty Hunters doesn’t happen.
  • Zuckuss and 4-LOM continue their redemption arc from Tales of the Bounty Hunters.

For the Legends Post-ROTJ era:

  • No Darths after Sidious and Vader.
  • Luke doesn’t turn to the Dark Side in Dark Empire.
  • Vima Da-Boda isn’t a descendent of Nomi Sunrider and Sedriss isn’t a descendent of Ulic Qel-Droma.
  • Vodo-Siosk Baas takes the place of Bodo Baas as the Jedi Holocron gatekeeper. Bodo Baas doesn’t exist.
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#1611575
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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JadedSkywalker said:

Were Red Lightsabers supposed to denote evil? Because I swear in the EU red meant synthetic and the reason the Sith used them was because they didn’t have access to natural crystals.

In the pre-AOTC EU, lightsaber colors don’t have any meaning. In fact, Leia has a red lightsaber in some books and some of the Jedi on the council in TPM had red lightsabers.

When George explained the meaning of lightsaber colors to Samuel L. Jackson, the EU introduced the synthetic crystal lore to explain it in-universe. However, Shadows of the Empire established that Luke’s ROTJ lightsaber has a synthetic crystal, so we know that synthetic crystals aren’t inherently red. My headcanon is that the Sith make their lightsabers red to honor the Sith species.

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#1610802
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What do you HATE about the EU?
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That Darth Andeddu is implied to have been part of the Sith Empire seen in Tales of the Jedi: The Golden Age of the Sith in spite of the fact that between being a Darth and fleeing to a Deep Core planet, Andeddu doesn’t fit the lore of the Sith Empire. It would have made more sense for Andeddu to be from the New Sith Wars.

That the Dark Jedi ancestors of Naga Sadow were retconned from having lived ~25,000 BBY to having lived ~7000 BBY without any reason being given for the retcon and therefore the conflict between the Jedi and the Dark Jedi ancestors of Naga Sadow was retconned from being the “First Great Schism” to being the “Second Great Schism” in spite of the fact that Tales of the Jedi: The Golden Age of the Sith refers to that conflict as the “First Great Schism”.