dark_jedi

Harmy said:

budwhite said:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=20893477&postcount=4943

See, the guy is using the Premiere broadcast captures, while the German HDTV captures were supposedly higher quality (I remember seeing some comparisons somewhere ages ago), I'd really like to see some comparisons of the BD with those. I don't have the original German captures in 1080p but some guys here do. Adywan?

I do also, they do look frackin nice too.

It has been a LONG time since I watched any of these, what was so bad that the Germans had to cut out? do you remember? so in your opinion the German Box Set is pretty good deal? because it seems to be the only one that offers English.

1 more thing, do you have that German Box Set? and if so, are you certain that the English audio is indeed on them? Thanks again.

Thanks MrBrown, So the German BD's have English Dub just no subs(which is fine by me, I do not read my movies LOL) and it does look like there is a big difference between the DVD's and BD's, so this Set here should do me good, and it says it is uncut, I wonder what was cut before? the only thing is, it is missing Enter The Dragon, but I have the US release of that already.

http://www.amazon.de/Bruce-Lee-Kollektion-exklusiv-Amazon/dp/B0055IYUYE/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1315147732&sr=1-1

Thanks for being SO helpful in these non US releases.

I was just looking for Bruce Lee movies on BD, but I do not want them if they do not have English Dub, and if they look no different than the DVD.

WOW! just a few more invites to give out and I hit 100 in the past several days, keep the PM's coming if you need an invite, I have about 900 left.

SamS said:

I had a chance to download and watch ANH and TESB.

Both were very good, the best I've seen as far as "untampered with" goes.  For ANH, I could still see some aliasing.  It is of course more noticeable in the early scenes, especially on C3PO and R2.  The land speeder side grills also make this anomaly more obvious.  Is there any source that doesn't have the aliasing burned into the image?  I think correction efforts are still quite nice, and have reduced or eliminated 90% of it.  ANH also has a fair amount of edge enhancement or halos around dark objects.  Again, likely present on all non-altered sources.  I no longer have the original LDs to compare against.  It is also obvious where grain reduction occurs.  Sometimes it appears a bit too heavy, such as on Vader during the first 5 minutes.  In many other scenes it is used to good effect.  Grain not eliminated, and plenty of detail still intact. 

 

ESB looks even better, grain looks nice.  Still some aliasing, but I based on the GOUT DVDs, it was never as bad as ANH ever was.  The colors on TESB are good, but at times it does seem too dark, especially during the Han Solo carbonite scene.

I definitely don't want to come across as too critical.  Far from it!  I feel very fortunate to get to experience these, and truly appreciate all the hard work that went into them.

Great job on the sound!  All the tracks I sampled were good. Absolutely no complaints there.  Looking forward to uncompressed versions if/when we get the BD versions of these editions.

 

My playback path is OPPO BDP-95 through Denon AVP-A1HDCI(A) processor.  My display is 60" Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD that is fully calibrated.

Thanks for the comments, but all that you mentioned is on the 06 DVD's and the LD's and even has some on the 1997 SE LD's, that is why I say over and over on the BD25 release that this Set is NOT for everyone, you will not be interested in it because the same flaws of the DVD do carry over, there is no miracle cure for these sources, it is what it is unfortunately, there is only so much filtering that can be done with this, which is to bad actually, of course I would like to make a perfect 1080P Blu-ray version of the Untouched Original Trilogy, but that is just not going to happen, not with what we have to work with, but I can live with my BD's until hopefully GL eventually restores and makes a proper release, hopefully.

Thanks again for the comments, you might want to check out Harmy's mostly de specialized versions, those might be more in what you are looking for.

patkhoo said:

ANH REMAKE SCRIPT DRAFT CONFIDENTIAL

Hugh Jackman as Han Solo

Scene: Solo prepares to leave the rebel base after getting his reward.

Chewbacca:

Jackman slaps on more hairgel onto his hair.

Solo: I know what I'm doing...

Cameo appearance by Samuel L. Jackson wearing an eyepatch walks out from under the dry-ice vapor surrounding nearby X-wings.

Nick Fury: Mr Solo, S.H.I.E.L.D. has a mission for you of the utmost importance...

What is this? and what does it have to do with my projects here in this thread? I have said several times a little off topic in my thread is fine, but when it keeps going, then I start to have a problem, so if you guys want to keep talking about whatever this is you are talking about, please take it to a new thread, Thanks.

KING KONG 1933: The Lost Spider Pit Sequence
Made by Peter Jackson in 2005

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYhGeYXztsc

skyjedi2005 said:

I am also looking forward to puggo finishing the trilogy, that for me will be the equivalent of an oot DVD Anamorphic release since none is ever coming.

If people need HD dark jedi's set and harmys are very nice indeed.

I prefer dj's based on the images posted as i have not the discs yet, if i did i would drop off them over at my bros and watch them at his house.

We had planned to watch the official blu ray. And see Phantom in 3D, but i am sort of in a boycott Lucas mood.

Not sure if i am still getting it or not, the NOOOO no thing is pretty bad imho.

But my brother likes the special editions and the prequels, so i don't know.

Get the set when its used i guess keep the deleted scenes and documentaries discs and give him the 6 films.

I am pretty sure I am going to do some editing on that DTS-HD MA track for sure, that NO........NOOOOOOOOO has to go! and whatever other crazy audio edits are in there.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on Puggo's Projects, I frackin LOVE them, I don't know why, but I do.

So I guess we will all see if this project comes to pass, that is all I will say.

skyjedi2005 said:

I heard that Weta actually found some of the original props for that scene, and even storyboards drawn by Willis O'brian.

The found the spider armature and using that as a concept they recreated the same model.

I wonder if i am the only one who liked PJ's King Kong, except for jack black.  He nearly ruined the movie for me yet did not.

NO, my Family and I liked it a lot to, but I feel the exact same way you do about Jack Black, so you have not seen what PJ did with the Spider Scene? it is really cool.

skyjedi2005 said:

The restored one was the 50th anniversary.  They had a black and white version and a color one.

But the  scenes edited out were only found in 16mm.

 

The Spiderpit sequence no longer exists in any quality, i am sure even if they located it only in 16mm they would have put it on the dvd.

Didn't Peter Jackson recreate this scene? I think someone actually added it back into the movie in a FanEdit, and it actually turned out rather well, also Peter Jackson did a great job recreating it, it was a pretty cool scene.

skyjedi2005 said:

Its because that vaporware project was never released, i still feel bad over laserman though.

I do to, it is really to bad we here at OT can't find out what his status really is, is he OK, or did he pass? would kind of be nice to know one way or the other, he was a Great member here.

Chewtobacca said:

dark_jedi said:  My aggressive response? I called NOONE any names LOL, and I still won't, but I find his reaction very funny.  I find it funny how I use HIS own words on him, but then I get crap for it LMAO!

I agree that you didn't resort to name calling, and I commend you for it, but I consider "you have NO idea WTF you are talking about," and the general tone of your posts to be aggressive.  I didn't use any phrases like this in my post to you.

Also some of his wording I found just a little insulting, that is why I used them, like "masterfully", what so anyone else here that has done upscales are wrong, or not right, like his supposed method is the right way, so read into my responses anyway you want.

I don't think he meant to imply that other people had upscaled improperly, simply that he was determined to do it well.  That's what I meant by your perceived criticism of your projects.  You just come across as very defensive sometimes.

LOL, it doesn't matter if he edits it now, why do you think I quoted it right away?

I was trying to make him see that language like that isn't productive.  Of course he can't erase what he said, but I thought that editing might go along with an apology.  That's all.

OK, but that is how YOU took it, I did not, so that makes me wrong and you right? or the other way around? no it doesn't, we perceive things the way we do, and that is how I took it.

and how many times do we see new members come in here and start talking all this crazy idea stuff with monster super duper hi tech LD players and such, and then just disappear? I have seen it a few times here and I know some of you that have been here for a while have to, so yes, I do think this is all BS, but hey, if it is not, proves US here wrong, I am sorry when I read those crazy claims of what was going to be done, it just struck me as BS, plain and simple.

LOL, this is the MOST typing I have done in a long time, but this is pretty interesting.

Chewtobacca said:

^^^ This is the kind of aggressive response that doesn't help anyone.

 

Criticism to my projects LOL, if people that have them like them GREAT! if they don't GREAT! I make these mostly for myself and close Friends, and then I share if I want to, so you have NO idea WTF you are talking about, if you don't like them, please go post about it and don't waste your time downloading them, that would be fine by me, but please share your thoughts to let others know how you feel, maybe you can persuade them how bad they really are.

I don't think they are bad at all, so I have no desire to convince other people of anything.  I simply wonder why you post denigrating remarks in other people's project threads.

NO, I don't think they are aware of the limitations of LD, or you would see that making a 1080p laserdisc cap is not going to work, but hey who knows right.

I meant limitations in the sources and actually agree that upscaling this to 1080p is a waste of time, but others have already tried to convince the OP that something like 720p would be better, unsuccessfully.  I also think that it is waste of time to encode Blu-rays from the GOUT, but other people disagree, so the last thing I would wish to do is go to post in your thread and convince other people of my own preferences, which is why I wonder why you seem to feel the need to do so.

My aggressive response? I called NOONE any names LOL, and I still won't, but I find his reaction very funny.

By all means go ahead, do you need a link to my thread? it really does not matter, if that is how you feel, make it known, the more thoughts the merrier, plus it will give me more to read, OH, and I have said 100 times, it is NOT about just the video, it is also about having ALL the audio files on 1 disc in ALL formats.

I find it funny how I use HIS own words on him, but then I get crap for it LMAO! but where are ALL the original X0 loyalists when he flat out called it a "hoax"? now this is very funny to, where is the shit storm of reactions for spouting that?

Also some of his wording I found just a little insulting, that is why I used them, like "masterfully", what so anyone else here that has done upscales are wrong, or not right, like his supposed method is the right way, so read into my responses anyway you want.

LOL, it doesn't matter if he edits it now, why do you think I quoted it right away?

X0-1138 said:

Dark Jedi, go suck a few cocks you fucking massively late-stage abortion.

LOL, you just got yourself banned\suspended or warned, nice way to cancel the project though, pretty cool.

Chewtobacca said:

dark_jedi said:

well, all I am saying is I can't wait to see a "masterfully" upscaled 1080p video sample processed through whatever colored magic you use from a laserdisc capture, Thanks.

Do you have to post this sort of remark -- often multiple times --  in almost every OT laserdisc project thread that starts up?  I understand that you find it amusing that some of us are still interested in laserdiscs, but I don't see what you gain by making these comments that can only serve to discourage other people from completing their projects.  Moreover, you appear to me to react strongly to any perceived criticism of your projects.

I believe that we are all aware of the limitations of laserdiscs.  While they don't look brilliant on a big modern HDTV, they don't look at all bad, in my opinion, and GOUT-sourced projects -- even those that use g-force's excellent scripts -- have their own problems and don't look brilliant either, so it's simply a matter of preference.

Do I have to post this remark, yes I do, I am using his own words LOL, and yes I do find it VERY amusing.

Criticism to my projects LOL, if people that have them like them GREAT! if they don't GREAT! I make these mostly for myself and close Friends, and then I share if I want to, so you have NO idea WTF you are talking about, if you don't like them, please go post about it and don't waste your time downloading them, that would be fine by me, but please share your thoughts to let others know how you feel, maybe you can persuade them how bad they really are.

NO, I don't think they are aware of the limitations of LD, or you would see that making a 1080p laserdisc cap is not going to work, but hey who knows right.

WE ALL know that the 06 DVD's have limitations, HELL I even add that in my thread on ALL the projects I have done, no one is saying anything different, but these do look waaay better than ALL the damn LD screens I have been seeing, I will take the 06 DVD's(as is) over any of these LD caps samples I have seen to date by a long shot.

SO bring on Guys, I sincerely cannot wait to see a sample video clip of what this will look like, keep up the great work by all means, and good luck.

@ msycamore, NO I did like LD's a long time ago, and working with the 06 DVD's is NOT working with the LD's, but you keep telling yourself it is the same, it is a shame that you think it is LOL, and I am not working with LD's, I checked to see if I can see what your "bionic" eyes can see, and a couple of us did not, so what, are we bad now because of it? but nice try to make it look like I am still onto the LD's though, very damn cool of you.

well, all I am saying is I can't wait to see a "masterfully" upscaled 1080p video sample processed through whatever colored magic you use from a laserdisc capture, Thanks.

I just checked my LD of the 97 SE ANH, I went to the scene where there was real bad Ben smear(on the HD Broadcasts) and my LD shows none of this, so who knows, he must have a different version than us.

The Aluminum Falcon said:

dark_jedi said:

how cool would that be to have the UOT and the 97 SE as bonus BD's? well I am half way there.

Most definitely epic. I grew up with that version too and considering the work with the GOUT, this too will look excellent. By the way, did you see this? Msycamore said that there was smearing on the 97 LD too. As an owner of two '97 LD sets, I didn't see any on either of my copies... AFAIK, the '97 LD was reference quality as far as LDs go.

2 Sets? LOL why 2? and I am not going to call him a liar, because he in fact is one of those I mention about having a HUGE boner for LD's LOL, man does he LOVE his laserdiscs, but I have not seen this either, I will take a look again, maybe his LD has laser rot or something.

skyjedi2005 said:

dark_jedi said:

LOL, like I said, some here have HUGE boners over these laserdiscs still, and it cracks me up, and to think the X0 is SO great is funny to, I looked at the raw captures of Star wars(I think Zion is the one that upped it) and it is NO different than my raw capture after IVTC from my Pioneer Elite CLD-79, but some just think they are going to make a "Grail" from this, well that is cool, I CAN'T wait to see a laserdisc capture masterfully upscaled to 1080p with this so called, black magic, gray magic, white magic process, too funny, my opinion only, well it seems I am not alone in it.

Laserdiscs had their purpose a few years ago, now they serve NO purpose but for audio, or special features, or maybe a scene or two, or color examples, etc. these just look like pure SHIT on nowaday systems, and if you don't think so, then YOU don't have a nowaday HDTV setup, unless it is in the 20 inch or smaller range.

Laserdisc still serves a purpose it is the only place outside of vhs you can watch the original American Graffiti or THX 1138, and we all know all the gout was a laserdisc master ported over.

Lucas is probably the only person i know of outside of Disney who keeps their classics altered without offering choice.

Yeah it does, like I said above, to people that do NOT have a nowaday HDTV setup these and VHS tapes are just fine, but you get into a large 65" HDTV and setups like that and these look like SHIT! plain and simple, very, very hard to watch.

and so what, the opening of American Graffiti is different, big deal, the Blu-ray MOPS the floor with the LD and VHS in video and audio, sorry, and THX-1138, this is one of the strangest, most boring movies I have every seen, but looking at the screens here at this site, again, the Blu-ray mops the floor with them screens no doubt about it, no offense to all involved but it is fact.

Sky you must still have an old picture tube TV and only listening to the audio out of the TV, because if all these LD's look great to you, more power to you I guess, but most are WAY past that now, Home Theater has come a very long way I tell you.

It's all good Aluminum Falcon, I have just spent many years messing with LD's and I personally think there time is over, there is NO more that can be squeezed out of them, believe me I know, that is why I am not sure how the hell I am going to do a 1997 Special Edition Trilogy BD25 Set yet, because my partner and I would LOVE to create yet another BD companion Set to the upcoming Saga Set this Sept. how cool would that be to have the UOT and the 97 SE as bonus BD's? well I am half way there.

LOL, like I said, some here have HUGE boners over these laserdiscs still, and it cracks me up, and to think the X0 is SO great is funny to, I looked at the raw captures of Star wars(I think Zion is the one that upped it) and it is NO different than my raw capture after IVTC from my Pioneer Elite CLD-79, but some just think they are going to make a "Grail" from this, well that is cool, I CAN'T wait to see a laserdisc capture masterfully upscaled to 1080p with this so called, black magic, gray magic, white magic process, too funny, my opinion only, well it seems I am not alone in it.

Laserdiscs had their purpose a few years ago, now they serve NO purpose but for audio, or special features, or maybe a scene or two, or color examples, etc. these just look like pure SHIT on nowaday systems, and if you don't think so, then YOU don't have a nowaday HDTV setup, unless it is in the 20 inch or smaller range.

PLEASE, Anyone wanting an invite to Myspleen, PM me so this thread doesn't get hammered with all this, I also have this posted on the first post of this thread.

Thank You

SamS said:

Hello again,

I love reading about the work that went into the v3 versions.  I also notice that the BD-25 versions are not yet uploaded, but some people are commenting as if they have downloaded/seen them?  Any ETA on when they'll be up?

In the meantime, I would love a PM with invite info to myspleen.  I would be happy to seed 24/7.

 

Thanks,

Sam 

Invite sent, check your PM's.

OH, and NO ETA yet on the Blu's, there may be a possible hold up on The Empire Strikes Back, still waiting on things and not sure on what my intentions are going to be just yet.