dark_jedi

Yes these are way to blurry and not hirez enough for a good print.

ChainsawAsh said:

Besides, what's the bitrate of the retail GOUT discs?

Same as my V3 set, 6500 avg.

Dunedain said:

That's fine, The Empire Strikes Back is looking great! :) So, you just left it alone as in the untouched V3 screen shots?

Yes Sir.

Dunedain said:

Can we get a comparison shot using these same settings showing Han and Leia close up talking on the Millennium Falcon? Would be good to see the flesh tones in a naturally brighter scene to make things clearer.

Sorry I am not getting anymore screens of this(ESB) now, it is done and it is time to move on LOL.

OK I messed with ESB enough, this just is not going to get much better, and if I do make something look just a tiny bit better, maybe a different scene looks way worse, who knows, so ESB is done and already rendered and encoded for both V3  & MBE, now onto ROTJ, I can look at the colors while msycamore tweaks his subs.

Well I have to admit as of right now I am leaning towards leaving ESB "as is" I really have to crank saturation and such to really even notice any real difference, plus I believe Dr M stated in zombies thread on color that PC monitors will show video a little dark anyways, so on our HDTV's it might be just fine, I will play around with it a little more today but I am thinking this one is good enough the way it is.

Ripplin said:

That's an outstanding lineup of audio tracks! Sorry, but what does MBE refer to?

V3 is just the standard DVD with the static menu's and all the audio tracks, and ESB bonus.

MBE is Maximum Bitrate Edition, movie and DD 5.1 track only.

OK here are the final specs for the V3 DVD's

Video specs for the V3 DVD's:

Star Wars
-Static Menu's w\Audio
-V3: 16:9 anamorphic widescreen 2.35:1 @ 6500kbps avg.
-MBE: 16:9 anamorphic widescreen 2.35:1 @ 8500kbps avg. *note, movie only w\1977 70mm Six-Track Reconstruction (Dolby Digital 5.1) @ 448kbps

Empire
-Static Menu's w\Audio
-Bonus Rare 1980 "Empire Hotline" Recordings Featuring - C-3PO, Han Solo, Princess Leia, Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader
-V3: 16:9 anamorphic widescreen 2.35:1 @ 6500kbps avg.
-MBE: 16:9 anamorphic widescreen 2.35:1 @ 8260kbps avg. *note, movie only w\Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 "PURIST" Remix @ 448kbps

Jedi
-Static Menu's w\Audio
-V3: 16:9 anamorphic widescreen 2.35:1 @ 6500kbps avg.
-MBE: 16:9 anamorphic widescreen 2.35:1 @ 7870kbps avg. *note, movie only w\Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 "PURIST" Remix @ 448kbps

Audio order and specs for the V3 DVD's:

Star Wars
- Audio 1: 1977 70mm Six-Track Reconstruction (Dolby Digital 5.1) @ 448kbps
- Audio 2: 1977 Theatrical 2.0 Surround @256kbps
- Audio 3: 1977 Theatrical Mono @ 128kbps
- Audio 4: 1985 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix @ 256kbps
- Audio 5: 1993 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix @ 256kbps

Empire
- Audio 1: Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 "PURIST" Remix @ 448kbps
- Audio 2: 1980 Theatrical 2.0 Surround @ 256kbps
- Audio 3: 1993 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix @ 256kbps

Jedi
- Audio 1: Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 "PURIST" Remix @ 448kbps
- Audio 2: 1983 Theatrical 2.0 Surround @ 256kbps
- Audio 3: 1993 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix @ 256kbps

***** ALL DVD's ARE DVD9's *****

!!!!! And before anyone asks, YES the DD 5.1 mix for Empire and Jedi are the latest versions hairy_hen did, I guess we are dubbing them the "Purist" version.

Saturation has been boosted a little to, so what do you guys suggest, help me out here, obviously color is good, but I just think it is to dark in general.

Oh and there is absolutely nothing I can do to the light sabers alone, they get tweaked with everything else, I thought they looked good myself.

Here's some Yoda,

OK so far the only thing that I am not 100% happy with is that this script IS very dark, so I am trying to adjust that a little, unless everyone likes it this dark, well here are a few samples so far.

There was actually a shot I saw earlier while browsing the file that was so dark you couldn't even make out Vaders face.

for the layer break I will just try and use the one used on the GOUT, now I just need to figure out how to find that info again, then I will let ImgBurn do the rest.

Update on using the SW color tweak for Empire, it does not work, hardly any difference at all, this one may end up not needing any tweaks at all, which if that is the case, it would be fine by me, then this one would be done to.

Harmy said:

Yeah, I'll also keep the project files for these comps and once V3 is out, I'm gonna dump the V3 footage in instead of the GOUT and it should hopefully yield even better result.

V3 footage? what is that?

Thanks msycamore for the pics, this is why we decided to leave it, it is not bad at all, and it is on everyone elses to LOL, so the render of the new and improved Star Wars is done, all I need to do is encode for the V3 and MBE and SW is getting put to DVD(finally).

Now I need some input for Empire, I am going to start the samples with the exact same tweak I used for Star Wars for my starting point, so what scenes should I post comparisons of? let's get this one started.

Well after the closed door discussion between msycamore and myself, we have decided that the subs are staying as is, it is barely noticeable and it is not that bad in motion, if this was truly a major issue, this should have been brought up when we(msycamore and I) first added these in quit a while back and I was sharing samples, and at least for me, who cares if there is a very, very minor flaw in the subtitles, hell the video is far from perfect to LOL, so for the record I am going with msycamore's softer subs and I am going to render now.

@msycamore, THANK YOU very much for doing these for this project and doing them for the 97 SE V2 Set also, I really appreciate it, Great Job!

hairy_hen said:

Put a pic of Summer Glau on my desktop recently.  This pic, specifically: http://files.myopera.com/indrid%20cold/albums/660844/summer-glau-ballet-03.jpg

Girlfriend saw it and seemed to become jealous of my admiration for someone so beautiful and talented.  Reminded her that she used to crush hard on Daniel Radcliffe a few years ago and had all kinds of pics of him everywhere.  Pretended to a greater amount of jealousy than I had actually felt at this (was really more a slightly uncomfortable amusement).  Seemed to cheer her up somewhat.  Left to ponder strange nature of such things . . .

Thanks for the pic h_h, I just LOVE Summer, she was great in season 2 of Dollhouse, if you have any more Hi rez pics of here please by all means post them.

msycamore said:

Just so you know, I'm gonna need some time, dark_jedi, if I'm gonna try this out. ;) Daaamn you Greedo!

LOL, F'n Greedo, good thing Han shot his punk ass.

I forgot his were in the black border LOL, I am used to yours now, have you tried that script satanika posted? I am not sure how to implement it myself or I would try it, and if you need a little more time just let me know I can wait but need to know, at least ALL audio is done and ready to go with menu audio and menu's, so once video is done I can actually author this one up and be done.

So what do we want to do about these subs? and why is it showing up now, didn't it before to? so g-force's subs must have done the same thing, I am confused.

I want to start rendering this file this afternoon.

Man my eyes must be getting tired, I don't see it, they just look a little blurred like msycamore wanted, I will look again in the morning, hopefully some others can look as well, time to go play some Castlevania Lords of Shadow.

Dunedain said:

I agree, I think the new subtitles look really good, very natural, like they are part of the film, which is the way they should look, of course. Nice job! :)

dark_jedi: The video is looking great. :) Are you making this an anamorphic video, so it will fill the edges of widescreen tv's? I don't recall seeing that mentioned for sure.

Yes it most definitely will be 16:9 anamorphic widescreen, the sub sample links are 16:9.

Since sometime early tomorrow morning I am going to start the rendering of Star Wars, I wanted to look ahead for a moment, I am going to try just for the sake of a starting point the same tweaks on ESB, so what scenes for that movie should we focus on?

Actually after closer look, I am in agreement, I LIKE these new subs and that is what I am going to go with, the others were to nice, crisp and clean for what we are trying to do here, and CA's example was well put.

Thanks again for taking the time and doing them yet again.

OK, as of right now I will re render with the latest accepted tweaks and the "new" msycamore Theatrical subs, I will let this go a little longer tonight and if nothing else comes up I am going to start rendering so we can move on.

vbangle said:

It looks beautiful DJ. I vote for the fuzzy subs, very nice.  Are you going to re-render the MBE of Star Wars with these latest tweaks?

Yes Sir, is that what you want, I assumed it was, but let me know for sure.

Funny thing, just because I might re render all 3 films to make some color adjustments and such doesn't mean I am going to delete the V3 "as is" render LOL, I will just back that baby up on my 1 TB external, I am just not going to be a store and take a bunch of different orders LOL.