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Post
#1218717
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

It seems shortsighted to dwell so much on whether families are kept together

Tell that to the toddler crying for its mommy.

My Spanish probably isn’t up to the job but it’s no easier to explain to a toddler why she was carried through the desert or why she can’t stay.

um… when did you last explain anything to a toddler?

nothing, nothing compares to the anguish a toddler feels when their mom is not with them. and i am just talking about a 1 hour trip to the grocery store. if a toddler had to leave home, sure that is sad, but if they are with their mom/dad? not anguish.

Whenever a person commits an offense resulting in separation from children that is very hard for the children. Typically the parents should have to answer for that.

did you know that the majority of these separations being complained about, are from those attempting to seek asylum? yeah, lets punish them for fleeing a shitty situation. get educated. to say what jay says, do some research it isn’t my job to do it for you.

Asylum isn’t a magic word that let’s people stay.

As usual, I don’t get it.

In reference to magic words.

Michael:
I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!

Oscar:
I just wanted you to know that you can’t just say the word bankruptcy and expect anything to happen.

Michael:
I didn’t say it. I declared it.

Post
#1218715
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Mrebo said:

The decision to prosecute all who enter illegally is a hard choice. I know it’s easy to think of Trump as a combover twirling villain who enjoys inflicting hardship but illegal immigration has been rampant and unless we are going to do nothing about it, hardships will continue.

This isn’t true. Illegal immigration isn’t a problem now and it hasn’t been in recent memory, if ever.

You’re drunk.

You’re telling me that illegal immigration is a major issue facing the country today? It’s a manufactured issue that the right-wing uses to rally its xenophobic base. The issue is how we deal with illegal immigration.

This is basically true. Illegal immigration certainly exists. But is it really a problem? (No)

Post
#1218686
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jay said:

chyron8472 said:

Jay said:

I lean right on some issues and left on others. Your inability to weigh nuance is unfortunate, but it’s what I’ve come to expect from modern liberals.

And yet you use “liberal” as akin to an epithet. Not hard to see why people call bullshit, since the only people who do that are on the right (ie. also not the center).

JEDIT: For the record, I am not a liberal. But I really hate it that Rush, Hannity, Fox and whoever the hell else on the right does that.

Any inference on your part regarding “liberal” being an epithet is just that: an inference.

When I criticize liberals, I call them liberals. When I criticize conservatives, I call them conservatives. What would you have me call them? Progressives? Pick whatever term makes you happy.

The fact that the term “liberal” is sensitive goes to show how ridiculous speech policing has gotten.

Maybe you should take our feedback? I agree with chyron’s post

Post
#1218643
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

It seems shortsighted to dwell so much on whether families are kept together

Tell that to the toddler crying for its mommy.

My Spanish probably isn’t up to the job but it’s no easier to explain to a toddler why she was carried through the desert or why she can’t stay.

um… when did you last explain anything to a toddler?

nothing, nothing compares to the anguish a toddler feels when their mom is not with them. and i am just talking about a 1 hour trip to the grocery store. if a toddler had to leave home, sure that is sad, but if they are with their mom/dad? not anguish.

Whenever a person commits an offense resulting in separation from children that is very hard for the children. Typically the parents should have to answer for that.

did you know that the majority of these separations being complained about, are from those attempting to seek asylum? yeah, lets punish them for fleeing a shitty situation. get educated. to say what jay says, do some research it isn’t my job to do it for you.

Asylum isn’t a magic word that let’s people stay. Generally the people are coming here because their own countries are lousy. Doesn’t mean they have a right to enter.

Jay Harold Christ mrebo… of course it isn’t magic.

but locking up parents, and shipping off toddlers, when the parents came to SEEK ASSYLUM is fucking nuts, and this is why people are making noise about this (Not because they hate Trump, Jay). this is why people are starting to say that the USA might be committing human rights violations.

I’ve yet to hear what the solution is.

Ok. So absent a perfect solution, doing worse than we were a few months ago is the right approach?

Generally speaking, trying new things is fine. But when it’s a cockup, don’t defend it.

Post
#1218630
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

so we can argue over the word policy again and again, but that doesn’t change the fact that there was a new edict on how to do things, and that new edict is causing an uproar.

Jay, why do you get hung up on whether or not this qualifies as “new policy”. is it because doing so makes you feel better about ignoring what is happening? if you can convince yourself that Obama and Clinton who you voted for were just as awful, then you don’t feel bad about your current apathy, or even disdain, towards the democratic party?

Post
#1218623
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jay said:

Jordan Peterson admits he’s wrong (shocker!) and a protester gets a taste of her own debate tactics:

https://twitter.com/concretemilk/status/1009888618951925764

dahmage said:

dahmage said:

9 myths about Trumps zero tolerance policy - Michelle Martin Blog https://www.michellemartinauthor.com/1/post/2018/06/9-myths-about-trumps-zero-tolerance-policy.html

for Jay and Mrebo

A random blog post by a social worker? The first point she makes is already factually incorrect (the policy is not new, the “zero tolerance” enforcement is). I scanned the rest and can’t be bothered to refute each point. Find better sources.

scan this (from https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1049751/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery, linked in the article that you dismissed)

Accordingly, I direct each United States Attorney’s Office along the Southwest Borderto
the extent practicable, and in consultation with DHS- to adopt immediately a zero-tolerance
policy for all offenses referred for prosecution under section 1325(a). This zero-tolerance policy
shall supersede any existing policies. If adopting such a policy requires additional resources, each
office shall identify and request such additional resources.

Post
#1218617
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jay said:

Jordan Peterson admits he’s wrong (shocker!) and a protester gets a taste of her own debate tactics:

https://twitter.com/concretemilk/status/1009888618951925764

dahmage said:

dahmage said:

9 myths about Trumps zero tolerance policy - Michelle Martin Blog https://www.michellemartinauthor.com/1/post/2018/06/9-myths-about-trumps-zero-tolerance-policy.html

for Jay and Mrebo

A random blog post by a social worker? The first point she makes is already factually incorrect (the policy is not new, the “zero tolerance” enforcement is). I scanned the rest and can’t be bothered to refute each point. Find better sources.

like twitter?

Post
#1218612
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

It seems shortsighted to dwell so much on whether families are kept together

Tell that to the toddler crying for its mommy.

My Spanish probably isn’t up to the job but it’s no easier to explain to a toddler why she was carried through the desert or why she can’t stay.

um… when did you last explain anything to a toddler?

nothing, nothing compares to the anguish a toddler feels when their mom is not with them. and i am just talking about a 1 hour trip to the grocery store. if a toddler had to leave home, sure that is sad, but if they are with their mom/dad? not anguish.

Whenever a person commits an offense resulting in separation from children that is very hard for the children. Typically the parents should have to answer for that.

did you know that the majority of these separations being complained about, are from those attempting to seek asylum? yeah, lets punish them for fleeing a shitty situation. get educated. to say what jay says, do some research it isn’t my job to do it for you.

Asylum isn’t a magic word that let’s people stay. Generally the people are coming here because their own countries are lousy. Doesn’t mean they have a right to enter.

Jay Harold Christ mrebo… of course it isn’t magic.

but locking up parents, and shipping off toddlers, when the parents came to SEEK ASSYLUM is fucking nuts, and this is why people are making noise about this (Not because they hate Trump, Jay). this is why people are starting to say that the USA might be committing human rights violations.

Post
#1218602
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jay said:

dahmage said:

Jay said:

https://twitter.com/ImmCivilRights/status/1008902662828511232

It was bad policy when Obama and the Democrats supported it and it’s bad policy now, but it’s a travesty now because the media tells you it is and there are elections in a few months.

Jay, i can see some differences:

  1. as you like to remind us (and pretend you are the only one who realizes), Governing involves hard choices. Presidents can’t make everything ‘good’.
  2. It sure seems like Obama wasn’t in love with what he was doing. Trump on the other hand is.

do you see the difference?

This is absurd.

not really

You realize you can’t attack policy differences because there are none,

haha, what? See my previous link about the myths.

Post
#1218601
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

It seems shortsighted to dwell so much on whether families are kept together

Tell that to the toddler crying for its mommy.

My Spanish probably isn’t up to the job but it’s no easier to explain to a toddler why she was carried through the desert or why she can’t stay.

um… when did you last explain anything to a toddler?

nothing, nothing compares to the anguish a toddler feels when their mom is not with them. and i am just talking about a 1 hour trip to the grocery store. if a toddler had to leave home, sure that is sad, but if they are with their mom/dad? not anguish.

Whenever a person commits an offense resulting in separation from children that is very hard for the children. Typically the parents should have to answer for that.

did you know that the majority of these separations being complained about, are from those attempting to seek asylum? yeah, lets punish them for fleeing a shitty situation. get educated. to say what jay says, do some research it isn’t my job to do it for you.

Post
#1218590
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

It seems shortsighted to dwell so much on whether families are kept together

Tell that to the toddler crying for its mommy.

My Spanish probably isn’t up to the job but it’s no easier to explain to a toddler why she was carried through the desert or why she can’t stay.

um… when did you last explain anything to a toddler?

nothing, nothing compares to the anguish a toddler feels when their mom is not with them. and i am just talking about a 1 hour trip to the grocery store. if a toddler had to leave home, sure that is sad, but if they are with their mom/dad? not anguish.