- Post
- #1228227
- Topic
- All Things Star Trek
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1228227/action/topic#1228227
- Time
I gave up on both new series.
I gave up on both new series.
Well done
Lts all decide what to call ourselves.
I like “OT Com” myself, or OT_com.
You know
I burn wood
I don’t remember anyone saying that girls couldn’t relate to Luke.
I do know my daughters identify much more strongly with Rey.
“I think there was an assumption being made for quite a while that girls didn’t care about Star Wars or that girls weren’t identifying with characters like Luke Skywalker or Han Solo; they were only identifying with Princess Leia or characters in other movies along those lines. And you know I think that it is not just Star Wars that is making this change, I think culturally, I want to believe that there is real movement and momentum beginning to happen where those kinds of lines are being blurred and people are recognizing in the creative community that um little girls, and little boys, for that matter are crossing over into identifying with lots of different characters and lots of different stories; And we as filmmakers should not be the ones providing those boundaries we should just tell the stories and they should be open a wide variety of not only gender but ethnicity. and that is another thing we are really working to do is to make the casting reflect society in a much more equal basis.”
- Kathleen Kennedy, President of Lucasfilm (2012 to Present),
Star Wars Celebration 2016
As I interpret Kennedy’s words she’s literally saying, that in the past filmmakers were providing boundaries by not casting women or people of different ethnicity in certain roles making it harder for women and people of different ethnicity to identify with these characters. She seems to thus imply that these past filmmakers (among them Lucas) were delibirately catering to boys, and white people, because they didn’t believe these stories would appeal to anybody else, and that only recently these lines are beginning to be blurred. Filmmakers should facilitate this movement by casting on an equal basis.
While it is true that men and women were not given equal opportunity in the film industry, I think it is faulty and inherently sexist to assume that a character’s gender is in any way important in the way men and women relate to these characters. As such, the fact that Rey and Jyn are female protagonists is important, because it reflects equality in casting, not because their gender makes these characters more relatable to women. If the inherent assumption is, that by casting female protagonists in Star Wars the franchise will become more appealing to women, then I would consider such a notion higly superficial and sexist.
It seems like you are suggesting that casting should go back to being less inclusive. I mean sure, the first steps out of this might seem forced a few times, but that is often what it takes to break from the past.
I care more that all children grow up seeing themselves represented in all types of roles, then I do about one or two casting decisions that I personally didn’t like. This is why Kelly Marie Tran is in my signature.
I wish I had memories of the '80s. The earliest distinct memory I recall is having my left big toe stitched up after I dropped a jar of pickled peppers on it; the mother told me this happened in 1990.
Typical, stupid 90s
Thanks for coming back
Honestly I should have known better.
Why do you come around here? You’re pretty well-to-do, from what I’ve gathered, and you don’t seem to enjoy most of the posters here.
Why does anyone, and does it matter
No, he’s a pure delight.
Thanks for clearing that up.
😄
O, so y’all don’t appreciate my quality NightTime™ posts‽ I see how it is.
Thanks for understanding
Just have the whiskey, coffee is for morning time
You are wise, this is what I did. So that makes me wise too.
Do I try the coffee wiskey, even though it’s late?
REPORTED
Ignored
Falafel = fullofawful
Only if it is bad, dry falafel.
Nice
This article about Futurama.
Ditto. Stay well Possessed.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-The-Clone-Wars-To-Return-With-New-Episodes/id/61810/
Does it matter?
Melania?
Interesting interpretation, but is there anything that’s been said by the filmmakers that is along those lines?
I don’t think so. But this interpretation was around before TLJ’s release, and with TLJ I think the meta commentary has grown beyond these two characters, and audience expectation (or its subversion) now drives the story itself.
i am not convinced it drives the story (but do believe it is a factor, just not a driving one). audience expectation certainly drives our interpretations.
Your letters highlight that you have no idea what really happened.
that is correct, I don’t know what happened. No one does, yet the media(at least the local news that I was watching) acts like it does know what happened and that what happened was racism.
Wouldn’t that be a justification for writing to the media, rather than writing to the people in the story? Maybe I’m missing something.
I suppose I could have written to the media. I just decided to write the people involved.
btw, you do understand I didn’t really send them letters, right?
Refresh my memory if I’m wrong, but I really don’t remember the show explicitly stating that his adventures were necessarily breaking new ground.
Hmmmmmm
…To boldly go where no man has gone before.
but what if
I am no man.
So, does anybody have an intelligent response to my “letters”?
i didn’t open them as they weren’t addressed to me.
that first one is pretty great^