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#576797
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Episode II: Attack of the Ridiculousness ***NEW 14 MONTH ANNIVERSARY DVD NOW AVAILABLE***
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TV's Frink said:

Honestly I had a lot of trouble with that scene.  There isn't much dialogue to work with.

I hope my comment didn't come off as sounding critical.  I actually think the repeated "she's been gone a month" line is hilarious.

The "four of us went out, thirty of us came back" line would be extra funny if a bunch of people could be composited into the background, just wandering around.

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#576206
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PROMETHEUS was (Alien 0?) NOW NO LONGER SPOILER FREE.
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timdiggerm said:

Alien wasn't intended to portray an alternate future in which we never progressed beyond CRTs or regressed to CRTs or whatever; it's just that that's what was available (within budget, feasible, etc) to the filmmakers.

As a counter-argument, I'd point out that we have 3mm thin OLED TVs commercially available today, but we're not seeing any on-board any current space-faring vessels.  I think there's a difference between what's technologically possible versus what's technologically and economically feasible and reliable.

If you gave the Alien team easy access to flatscreens or CGI-holograms back then, I bet they would have used those instead. Maybe they would have had them flicker or whatever, to demonstrate that the Nostromo is a hulking rustbucket, but they would have picked whatever they could that would indicate to viewers "This is clearly taking place in The Future".

The difference between CRT monitors and CGI-produced floating holograms is that CRT monitors are real technology, and therefore create a feeling of realism in the film--the Nostromo feels like a real vessel because everything on-board is real.  The Prometheus, on the other hand, with is interactive holographic displays, only serves to remind me that I'm being asked to buy into yet another element of fantasy. 

All this aside, what I really liked about the look of the Nostromo in Alien was that it contributed to the atmosphere and narrative.  Everything just looked so cold -- the lighting, the computer systems... everything served to remind the viewer how uncaring and alone the crew members were.  I think Mother in particular serves to illustrate this point.  Here you have a machine with a name that should reflect a source of comfort, and yet, ironically, with its perfunctory responses and mechanical sounds, it really drove home the feeling of utter isolation and abandonment.  The look and feel of everything on-board the Nostromo just screamed "inhospitable," which in turn directly affected the entire mood of the film.  This is an element that will sadly be lost if the Prometheus looks too much like a luxury liner.

 

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#576190
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Creators that ruined their own works
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Akwat Kbrana said:

Seriously, dude, sometimes it seems like you're just looking for things to gripe about...

"Sometimes?"

And I'd agree with you about The Village -- it's one of my two favourite Shyamalan films (the other being Unbreakable).  I think what ruined it for audiences was that it was marketed as a horror/thriller, when in fact I'd categorize it as a romance (albeit set against a backdrop with elements of horror in it).  While admittedly the twist in this film was a little predictable and had become a cliché for Shyamalan by this point, unlike The Sixth Sense the film doesn't rely on the surprise ending to work.  I've seen it a number of times, and I've actually enjoyed it more with each viewing.

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#575991
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PROMETHEUS was (Alien 0?) NOW NO LONGER SPOILER FREE.
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timdiggerm said:

Anchorhead said:

As a prequel, it also has the same issue that bothered me with Phantom Menace.  There is a huge technology step backwards for events taking place several decades later.  That's a story killer for me.  We're seeing Minority Report computers which, far into the future, will become the CRTs of the Nostromo. No thanks.

Bingo covered this.

What, the whole "the Prometheus is a Cadillac, the Nostromo is a garbage truck" defense?  Sorry, not buying it.  There's a difference between varying levels of tech within a given time frame and tech that's clearly separated by a generational gap.  A more accurate analogy would be to compare the Prometheus to a Cadillac and the Nostromo to a Ford Model T... Same technological basis in some ways, but one obviously precedes the other.  They wouldn't likely coexist in the same time frame as far as I'm concerned.

Plus, I'm just not getting a good vibe from seeing so much about the derelict ship.  For me, the Space Jockey will forever remain a mystery, just as he has been for the past 34 years.

This is how many pre/sequels work - Something that wasn't explored in the original is explored. The process of revealing that and whatever it leads to can be a great experience, independent of the wonder you may have felt previously. Plus, one of the two writers is Damon Lindelof, previously on LOST. He's very good at showing the partial answer to a mystery while raising ten new mysteries. If it's mystery you want, Lindelof's your man.

There's also a difference between a mystery resulting from creative storytelling versus one which arises from poorly planned and executed writing.

Ultimately, I'm still excited to see the film and will give it a chance.  I want to like it, but, like Anchorhead, I have my reservations based on what I've seen thus far.

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#575690
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Any favorite Star Wars scenes?
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walking_carpet said:

-we all know about -'i love you' 'i know' - but i also like when chewie howls in protest and gets violent. han tries to calm him down telling him it'll be alright and talking sense into him. 

I agree- this is a great scene.  As a kid, when Han says, "Chewie!  Chewie, this won't help me... Save your strength.  There'll be another time," I remember thinking 'Hey, they're not getting out of this one this time.'  It's a powerful moment that, as a kid, really drove home the concepts of sacrifice, acceptance, and resilience in the face of defeat.

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#575451
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Nice call, Warbler
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Gaffer Tape said:

It was Kirk that constantly pissed me the fuck off.  And the fact that he went from suspended cadet to captain of the flagship in the span of an hour shifts the movie from good time implausiblity to eye-rolling what the fuckery.

So... are we trying to do new things with these characters, or are we just trying to get them to exactly where they were in the original series as soon as possible?  Choose a direction, guys, because waffling somewhere in the middle led to all sorts of nonsensical screw-ups.  I'd much rather have had a completely true to canon movie or a completely rebooted movie than this lukewarm compromise.

Yes, yes... To Gaffer Tape you listen...

You expressed my thoughts exactly.

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#575073
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Nice call, Warbler
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I'm always amazed when a self-professed Star Trek fan says he/she liked the last movie.  It's so far removed from what I think made the original and Next Generation Trek good (i.e., characters with depth, thought-provoking storylines that explored the human condition, etc.) that I can't fathom how any fan could have enjoyed this version, which was nothing but action-driven drivel with two dimensional characters.

I feel as though I should watch it again in order to give it a fair shake, but I can't help but feel I'll just come to the same conclusion.

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#574777
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The Anniversary Collection: GOUT's Last Stand - NTSC DVD Set (Work-in-Progress)
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The new colour palette looks nice OmegaMattman.  I only recently learned of and watched the Hyperspace Collection, and I thought it was great.  The colours there may not be what seems to be accepted as theatrically accurate these days, but it looked just like the VHS cassettes I grew up with, so I was very pleased.  That said, the examples above look more natural and would definitely seem to be an improvement.  I'm looking forward to seeing your progress.

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#571643
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PROMETHEUS was (Alien 0?) NOW NO LONGER SPOILER FREE.
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timdiggerm said:

It's been stated, I believe by Scott himself, that "The Space Jockey" in Alien is just a space suit, not an actual fossilized body.

This is another thing that gives me feelings of slight trepidation.  I always loved not knowing exactly what I was looking at when seeing the space jockey in Alien.  Being uncertain about its physiology, of where the chair ended and the organism began, really made the space jockey seem alien in the truest sense of the word--it was something that was completely foreign to our technology and comprehension (I believe Giger himself would agree this was the intent, his art being focused on the seamless melding of the organic with the artificial).

Having the technology (not to mention the origin) surrounding the space jockey explained ruins that sense of mystery and wonder which Alien so expertly created.