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What’s this “we” business? Don’t tell me have another team 'round these here parts.

Wazzles said:

Harmy said:

I don’t think he’s going for the look of the negative in terms of color, that would make no sense - the negative doesn’t have any color-grading done.

I think he’s going for day one print accuracy, based off of Tech prints and actual props and costumes.

This. I couldn’t have put it better myself. In fact, I didn’t!

Technicolor

Mike Verta has 2 IB techs and 3 Eastman LPPs I believe.

Thank you to TN1 and also to althor for GOUT syncing it. One thing though - did the GOUT synced version have to be be in 720p or can you add frames without sacrificing resolution?

I guess it doesn’t matter if I get those previews now!

Mine are called:
“R3_Lossless_sample.avi”
“Reel3-OT-Preview.mkv”
from circa 8/21/2015

I’d also like to make an inquiry about those time-limited reel preview links.

I have SW reels 1 and 3 and ESB reels 1, 4-6. Am I missing any besides SW reel 2?

If I am, can somebody please PM me links to them?

sunday256 said:

The new scan looks great!!! Out of curiosity are there any comparison vids anywhere that show the KCCI against this new 1st gen copy?

Zion said:

In the interest of comparing all the SWHS releases, I am actually working on a screenshot comparison page similar to the old OT screenshots site I made several years ago. Stay tuned.

Also this isn’t a 1st gen copy like WHIO. This is a master tape.

Pete Townshend said:

Meet the new boss…

Same as the old boss

bromeo said:

This might sound dumb (once again because I’m a dummy) but will we ever see Star Wars movies without the top + bottom black bars? Not even sure what it’s called but isn’t that what IMAX does? (We don’t have any IMAX theaters in Finland). The original trilogy is probably not compatible for this kind of treatment… or would a 4K restoration be enough? The Force Awakens might the first one, I guess.

All star wars movies are 2.35:1 aspect ratio, which means you’ll always see the horizontal black bars as long as the standard for TVs is 16:9 widescreen. TFA had a few scenes shot in IMAX ratio (can’t remember what AR off the top of my head) but there’s little to no chance we’ll see them on the blu-ray.

In terms of resolution, it really doesn’t matter. It could be in 4K but still have the same 2:35:1 ratio. Preserving aspect ratios is an important principle in the world of AV that some tend to forget or do not even know about in the first place.

I can’t remember if I asked this before or if I’ve seen you guys respond to this question, but will the stereo mix be restored in any capacity, and if so will it be comparable to the theatrical mix heard on laserdiscs pre-85?

Nanner Split said:

mumbles_ said:

Nanner Split said:

Too bad they ruined it by zooming in until it fit the 16:9 aspect ratio

It’s just a test. The final version won’t be stretched to 16:9 and they have a lot on their plates so I would look at this as a minor inconvenience. They’re not stupid.

I was referring to that Onion Film Standard review video, what did you think I was talking about??

Team Negative 1

mumbles_ said:

Bobocop said:

Not to mention there wouldn’t be any point, as JJ Abrams and Disney are not likely going to tinker with it after its release.

Do you think we’ll see George on here working on his own edit of The Force Awakens?

George will resort to Fanedits to continue on his warpath.

Are there any efforts to retrieve a DCP?

There are ways to obtain it out there.

I second alternate color versions

That’s such great news!

Whoever wants the HDTV versions of the movies, they’re on the organ.

TheBardXWM said:

Maybe a dumb question, but what is the difference between the DVD and HDTV version?

Resolution

TheBardXWM said:

1. I saw recently that there are plans for v3.0 of the movies. Is there any way to guess when these might be finished? Being foreign to this whole DS project I just have no idea if this is something like a few weeks or a few months or a year from now kind of thing.

Just don’t expect it anytime soon.

2. I heard that episodes 1-3 were also tinkered with. Have they been tinkered with enough to warrant the need for a “DS” equivalent? And does a widely accepted DS version exist and where? Or should I just get the Blu-Ray versions?

Valeyard/RU.08 is working on a 1080p theatrical recreation of Episode I, which looks very promising and is close to completion.

A theatrical Episode II as we know it does not exist, so just rely on the HDTV version since it’s the closest thing.

Episode III only has one “change” in the form of that infamous wipe transition, so either the DVD/HDTV (does not have the wipe) or Blu-ray version (does) will do for watching it just to watch it. Schorman is working on a “theatrical” version of it, but I’m not really sure how different or unique it will be from official releases besides the wipe.

RU.08 said:

I know I’m a bit behind atm on this project, but I do plan to finish ASAP on it, I just need to overcome a couple of technical issues. 😃 Sorry to keep everyone waiting 😦

Take your time, man. I’d rather it be delayed for quality than rushed for quantity. 😃

Harmy said:

Yeah, I recommend getting offline until you watch it - a college of mine just had a super important story point spoiled by some douchebag on facebbok - kind of like if there was facebook in 1980 and someone wrote “Vader is Luke’s father” on it for everyone to see.

Wow, an entire college, huh?

Maybe

This is a question I pondered when I downloaded Harmy’s Respecialized 97 Edition of Star Wars. As most of us know, the 1997 Special Edition version of Star Wars in particular used a certain IB Tech print owned by a collector, the same one used in Legacy and (I think) the same one Harmy used to grade the DE, and subsequently his '97 RE. However, the real colors in the '97 version are not the same as the '77 original for whatever dumb reason. Team Blu’s upscale of the SE actually presents the film with this altered color palette.

My question for discussion is one of intent vs. result. Should the original color grading of the '97 SE be preserved or should the originally intended color grading be prioritized for purity’s sake?

We as a community tend to like things preserved as they existed originally, even if these things were revisionist by nature, but color grading is a such a tricky subject that I feel like this could go either way, and I definitely want to hear people’s thoughts on the matter.