chyron8472

Anyway, back to the topic…

Jedi Master Skywalker said:

chyron8472 said:

Jedi Master Skywalker said:

I’m not JMOW I’m a male who lives in the United Kingdom for god sake

How do you even know who he is?

Cause that’s who people think I am

Yes, but that doesn’t mean you know who they are talking about. How do you know who they are talking about?

Jedi Master Skywalker said:

I’m not JMOW I’m a male who lives in the United Kingdom for god sake

How do you even know who he is?

The Captain said:

Captain_Danielsan said:

As a noob can i ask a question about Aotc and ROTS. If they were shot in just cropped 1080p how on earth did they get it to look clear and everything blown up and projected onto massive cinema screens. Just interested in the technical know how here.

It has a lot to do with what the human eye can actually resolve. It’s the reason why 4K TVs really don’t make a difference in your home viewing unless you A. Get a giant (90"+) set or B. Sit really close…

DominicCobb said:

pleasehello said:

DominicCobb said:

pleasehello said:

DominicCobb said:

Mithrandir said:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/12/star-wars-last-jedi-laura-dern-admiral-holdo-listen-to-women?intcid=inline_amp

Looks like there actually was an agenda in all this ST.

Sadly fairy tales all root in the old world.

Please fire Kennedy

Please fire yourself (from being a poster in this thread).

Someone’s getting a little defensive.

I reckon he’s allowed to be concerned about modern day politics infiltrating Star Wars.

Right, how dare they give women equal footing.

Not really the point. Women have always been the smart ones in command in Star Wars.

Point is, telling someone to go away because you disagree with them is not a valid argument.

There are exactly 4 women with speaking roles in the OT. Three of them have less than a minute of screen time.

chyron8472 said:

Leia, Mon Mothma, the woman at the ion cannon targeting computer, and…?

NeverarGreat said:

Beru.

Google reveals the “woman at the ion cannon targeting computer” in ESB is named Toryn Farr.

okay, back to the topic.

DominicCobb said:

pleasehello said:

DominicCobb said:

pleasehello said:

DominicCobb said:

Mithrandir said:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/12/star-wars-last-jedi-laura-dern-admiral-holdo-listen-to-women?intcid=inline_amp

Looks like there actually was an agenda in all this ST.

Sadly fairy tales all root in the old world.

Please fire Kennedy

Please fire yourself (from being a poster in this thread).

Someone’s getting a little defensive.

I reckon he’s allowed to be concerned about modern day politics infiltrating Star Wars.

Right, how dare they give women equal footing.

Not really the point. Women have always been the smart ones in command in Star Wars.

Point is, telling someone to go away because you disagree with them is not a valid argument.

There are exactly 4 women with speaking roles in the OT. Three of them have less than a minute of screen time.

Leia, Mon Mothma, the woman at the ion cannon targeting computer, and…?

moviefreakedmind said:

I wasn’t referring to you specifically, I was referring to the Christmas culture in general. And yes, most people that are uncharitable piles of self-centered trash don’t shut up about the spirit of giving that supposedly has to do with Christmas. The boring religious element, while irritating enough to me on its own, also makes the consumerism that defines Christmas all the more hypocritical.

While the underlying argument you make that greedy consumerism is wrong, many people are selfish and uncharitable, and it is hypocritical to attach such behavior to the religious element assigned to the season—while all of that is true, at the end of the day it comes down to what attitude you intend to take, and how you intend to behave.

Yes, commercialism is bad, and wrong, and people are hypocrites. But you have to decide whether or not to let bitterness fester in yourself about it. Being bitter will not help you feel better about yourself, nor will it bring joy to those around you. You do have valid points, but being bitter isn’t the answer.

Also, the religious aspect, while boring to you, for many is the most important part of the holiday regardless of how society has commercialized everything else.

nickyd47 said:

I also didn’t find the score to be particularly exciting.

What??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIIvAoHIsPQ&t=3m45s
(link to TLJ score; minor spoiler? in track title.)

I remember exactly when this happened in the film and it got me fired up.

MalàStrana said:

SilverWook said:
why can’t BB-8 operate a scout walker?

I was a very weird Rick and Morty reference ! (“I’m scout walker BB-8888888888888888” 😃). The kind of Deus Ex Machina I didn’t like. Very silly (like most of the subplots).

I have not seen that episode. I do not watch Rick & Morty. And I don’t feel I’m missing anything by not having that connection, whether it was intended or not.

yhwx said:

That narrows it down to millions.

Yes.

I mean in first-world countries where access to movies is easy and common.

ray_afraid said:

lol ok. I’ll tell my friends that there is a huge hole in their lives that only Star Wars can fill.
Or not.

This is a strawman argument. I didn’t say Star Wars is a requirement to fill a hole in peoples’ lives.

You are losing my point of thinking it odd, considering the cultural impact of the series, that many people have not, in the last 40 years, seen a single Star Wars movie even once, given the umpteen opportunities to do so and the vast cultural references to it.

oojason said:

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-last-jedi-defense/

I liked this article. It speaks to why many may not like TLJ, and why I like it a lot.

One thing I didn’t like about either of the Sequel movies is that the Main Title theme doesn’t hit you in the face the same way as it does in either the OT nor PT.

for example (listen to the first note):

The Last Jedi Main Title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_OO9taOvG8
The Force Awakens Main Title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8ac1Qg-r-8

vs.

Return of the Jedi Main Title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF1_ht6qVGE
and even The Phantom Menace Main Title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KohBT7Cl1k

The emotion in the opening of the OT and PT main titles is so much better than the ST.

I am feeling like these arguments from the people vehemently defending hating TLJ, they’re rationalizing. They want to hate it, and so are finding reasons to justify their position.

If the ST is too much like the OT, you hate it for being unoriginal. If it’s too different, you hate it because whatever difference it was is stupid.

ray_afraid said:

Ryan said:

these new Disney Star Wars movies… they are actually ruining the Original Trilogy.

No. You’re just flat out wrong.
No bad movie is going to change an already great movie. Period.

Also this.

DrDre said:

darthrush said:

DrDre said:

NeverarGreat said:

Yeah, it even manages to subvert the fact that it’s a middle chapter, and that’s wonderful. I am so glad that there are few obvious paths forward in this galaxy, because that means that whatever comes next will be different than any previous Star Wars movie.

It could go anywhere, with any time jump. There’s room for our heroes to have years of adventures before facing the final chapter.

Han’s death thus only becomes a stepping stone for Kylo’s ascension to the throne.

And what’s the problem with that? Han’s death and Snoke’s death play two massively important roles for Kylo Ren. Two times in which he has an seemingly impossible choice to make but he ultimately chooses to “kill the past” and ascend further into the dark side. It is interesting and new, and both deaths are done very well. More than anything, the old characters should be there to serve as foils to our new character’s.

I didn’t think Snoke death was done well. Snoke was made to wear the idiot hat

As with the Luke saying to the Emperor, “Your overconfidence is your weakness,” so the same applies to Snoke. I loved the way Snoke was killed. It was so… unexpected. It wasn’t a mirror or rehash of the OT.

And it was what Vader wanted. “With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict, and bring order to the galaxy. […] Luke, you can destroy the Emperor. He has foreseen this. It is your destiny. Join me, and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son.”

DrDre said:

it seems RJ forgot his movie is supposed to be part of a trilogy and saga. You don’t create a trilogy and saga by cutting all ties with the past, and having no open story threads for the future. There’s literally nothing to look forward to

My wife says that’s one thing she liked about this film, as a middle film, as opposed to ESB. In ESB the movie just kind of ended, with a very deliberate (and bothersome) cliffhanger. In this, sure there could be more to the story, but there doesn’t have to be. It could end right there with “even if the Resistance dies, there are still (young) Force users and a hope for the future.”

DominicCobb said:

SilverWook said:

Doesn’t anyone stay for the credits anymore? It was Frank Oz all the way.

Yeah, you don’t even have to stay that long either, he’s listed among the main cast.

My point is he sounded like The Clone Wars’ Yoda. He didn’t even sound like ROTS Yoda, which would have been the next most recent live action film with the character as played by Oz.

I liked it. I thought it didn’t make sense physics-wise because her body should have had enormously obvious physical damage done to it from the vacuum of space, but I liked it as far as yet-another-twist.

My wife says her main gripe about the film is that Carrie doesn’t get a hero’s death for Leia. Like, they could and should have killed Leia in this in a way that was memorable for Leia and honorable to Carrie, considering Carrie herself won’t be reprising the role in IX.

ChainsawAsh said:

chyron8472 said:

The one real negative of the film is… Yoda. They got the Yoda voice actor from The Clone Wars (whom I hate), and used either another Creepy Puppet Yoda or a CGI adaption of it.

Wait, they did? Why? Oz came back for Rebels, why not an actual film? Sounded like Oz to me…

Okay, so it was Oz (I checked on imdb), but it sounded like neither ESB nor Prequel Yoda, but more like someone not-Oz imitating him. Which was compounded by the doesn’t-look-like-ROTJ-Yoda-ghost character appearance.

The G said:

all I want to see is a star war disney pls

I don’t see why people are constantly complaining about TLJ like “it breaks what TFA set up!” or some such. That’s what I liked about it—the plot twists.

You think Snoke is going to be the next Palpatine (ie. big bad who dies at the end of the third film), but he’s not.

You think Luke is going to mentor Rey but he doesn’t.

You think Leia is dead but she’s not.

You think someone or something on the Light Side is connecting Rey and Ren, but it’s Snoke, but it’s again not really.

You think Finn is going to destroy the tracker but he doesn’t and gets caught. You think there’s no way out except then BB-8 shows up in a chicken walker.

You think Poe is going to save the cruiser but he doesn’t.

You think it’s the Vice Admiral coming through the door but it isn’t.

You think Luke is on the planet fighting Ren but he’s not.

You think Ren is going to kill Rey but he doesn’t—he does exactly what Vader wanted to do in ESB but couldn’t.

It’s the best thing about the film. It keeps throwing curve balls.

Oh, and that business about Rey’s family being nobodies from nowheresville, Ren told her that. There is no guarantee that he was not lying. But even if he wasn’t, I like the idea that not the whole of the The Force hinges directly on descendants of the House of Skywalker (as many people speculated that she was a daughter of Luke or Leia).

The one real negative of the film is… Yoda. They got the Yoda voice actor from The Clone Wars (whom I hate), and used either another Creepy Puppet Yoda or a CGI adaption of it.

I have to agree with the sentiment that The Last Jedi is on par with The Force Awakens with certain moments that are far superior.

I give TLJ an 87/100? Not like 85 is a B and 59 is an F, but more like if 5/10 is just okay. It’s not quite 9/10 as a Star Wars film but as a film it is amazing.

I really feel like it was on par with TFA for the first half (and I liked TFA), but then things happened that shot it ahead by leaps and bounds—and yet it’s not better than the OT.

ray_afraid said:

chyron8472 said:

What I don’t understand is when someone says they’ve never seen a Star Wars movie.

Like… never ever? Seriously??

I know people who’ve never seen Star Wars. So what?

I just figure it’s culturally iconic. It’s not just a film series; it actually has made a significant impact on the culture. I maybe could see not recommending the SEs to someone young enough not to have seen the OUT, but that’s a different case. It’s like “okay, where have you been all this time?”

What I don’t understand is when someone says they’ve never seen a Star Wars movie.

Like… never ever? Seriously??