The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
So you have said.
You might want to get over it.
One wonders why you can not.
the idea of going to the church and listening to the priest and strictly following what is said in the bible or something doesn’t fly my way at all.
It’s not about rules, though. And going to church is not a requirement. It’s about having a relationship with God, and growing that relationship through prayer (talking to Him), and fellowship (talking to each other). Sitting in a church service simply to warm a pew doesn’t do much in either regard. Church is not required, but fellowship is still very important. For myself, I wouldn’t get very much out of church if I didn’t also go to sunday school (my church calls it Life Group) to connect with my friends and have a short bible study in a small group.
isn’t it, with all due respect, an insane thing to defend though?
like, if you decide to worship x or y you’re forgiven? that’s not really freedom. that’s actually some middle age shit that the clergy used to say to manipulate and control the people.
I can not explain more than to say that God desires to redeem His children. I can not describe what a relationship with God is like to one who thinks the whole enterprise is laughably ludicrous. To assume that it is license to commit remorseless tragedy with no consequence is, I think, rather ignorant. No offense.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
So you have said.
All that matters is what I believe and what you believe doesn’t? Cool.
And you can report me if you feel I’ve crossed a line but I don’t see it.
I do not push my beliefs on you. It is not necessary for you to assert that people here are doing that, unless your goal is to straight up vent about the ideology/philosophy/faith in general. But I don’t see what positive effect is to gained from perpetual complaining to nobody in particular about an idea in general which is not being forced on you and which you yourself don’t believe.
What positive effect do you think is to be gained from perpetual complaining about my posts?
It is not perpetual, nor is it directed solely at you. I would hope a positive effect might be improvement in the general tone of the discussion.
I really would rather talk about how certain aspects of whatever ideologies or faiths (not just mine) might be applicable, rather than constantly revisiting how people are offended by aspects of them or continually find them ludicrous.
Hmmm…you believe different than I do? Ok, you’re going to be tortured forever after you die.
Oh, and that other guy who led a terrible life, raped, robbed, murdered, kicked puppies and pushed down old ladies, but accepted Jesus as his savior right at the end? He’s a better person than you are.
Nah, doesn’t seem like a shitty belief system at all.
A guy who accepts getting saved at the end isn’t gonna fool God if he’s not sincere. And if he’s sincere? Why wouldn’t that matter?
I mean how would such a guy have heard of Jesus anyway if not for someone else taking time to point it out to him. Someone who noticed he was on a destructive path and took a lot of effort to help him onto a better one?
I don’t know why you’d be against the idea that even a horrible person could find a way to redeem themselves. I mean can criminals be rehabilitated or not? Should we lock people up forever on a 1st offense? Or should we give them other chances?
A rapist and murderer who legitimately gives his life to Christ is less of a sinner than me.
I’d just like to say that this is not really how it works. The rapist/murderer is not less of a sinner than you. He did not sin less than you just because that sin is forgiven. But, he will be saved rather than you, because he gave complete recognition to the person who bought him the choice to ask for forgiveness.
And it’s still just as repulsive of an idea.
If you say so. I suppose I better just move on with my repulsive and shitty life, though maybe I could better my reputation by murdering a few unborn children with no medical issues.
Dude…
I’m attacking an idea. Never called you a terrible or crappy person.
When you attack an idea that’s at the core of a person’s belief system, it’s kind of tough for them not to take it personally.
Which is why I take it personally that I’m going to hell and a murderer isn’t!
Besides, as I said, your opinion has already been made and the dead horse need not be beaten further.
Yeah, everybody should just stop posting in this thread after they’ve shared their opinion once. In fact, if someone else shared a similar opinion, you don’t have to post anything at all. They already shared it for you.
That’s not what I said. And that’s not the meaning of beating a dead horse.
JEDIT: Now someone is going to “inb4 chyron posts definition of ‘beating a dead horse’”.
All that matters is what I believe and what you believe doesn’t? Cool.
And you can report me if you feel I’ve crossed a line but I don’t see it.
I do not push my beliefs on you. It is not necessary for you to assert that people here are doing that, unless your goal is to straight up vent about the ideology/philosophy/faith in general. But I don’t see what positive effect is to gained from perpetual complaining to nobody in particular about an idea in general which is not being forced on you and which you yourself don’t believe.
If you don’t believe it, it ought not hold sway over you.
Hmmm…you believe different than I do? Ok, you’re going to be tortured forever after you die.
Oh, and that other guy who led a terrible life, raped, robbed, murdered, kicked puppies and pushed down old ladies, but accepted Jesus as his savior right at the end? He’s a better person than you are.
Nah, doesn’t seem like a shitty belief system at all.
A guy who accepts getting saved at the end isn’t gonna fool God if he’s not sincere. And if he’s sincere? Why wouldn’t that matter?
I mean how would such a guy have heard of Jesus anyway if not for someone else taking time to point it out to him. Someone who noticed he was on a destructive path and took a lot of effort to help him onto a better one?
I don’t know why you’d be against the idea that even a horrible person could find a way to redeem themselves. I mean can criminals be rehabilitated or not? Should we lock people up forever on a 1st offense? Or should we give them other chances?
A rapist and murderer who legitimately gives his life to Christ is less of a sinner than me.
I’d just like to say that this is not really how it works. The rapist/murderer is not less of a sinner than you. He did not sin less than you just because that sin is forgiven. But, he will be saved rather than you, because he gave complete recognition to the person who bought him the choice to ask for forgiveness.
And it’s still just as repulsive of an idea.
If you say so. I suppose I better just move on with my repulsive and shitty life, though maybe I could better my reputation by murdering a few unborn children with no medical issues.
Dude…
I’m attacking an idea. Never called you a terrible or crappy person.
When you attack an idea that’s at the core of a person’s belief system, it’s kind of tough for them not to take it personally.
Which is why I take it personally that I’m going to hell and a murderer isn’t!
But you don’t believe that you are. The idea that you’re going to hell is not at the core of your belief system. And no one here is attacking your belief that you are not, nor shoving down your throat belief that you are.
You are taking personally against you an attack that is not happening here. So maybe you can tone it down a bit. Besides, as I said, your opinion has already been made and the dead horse need not be beaten further.
The wiki pages for fundamentalism and evangelicalism. It said that the defining traits are belief in the virgin birth and the resurrection of Christ, which if you don’t believe in I’m hard pressed to find where the Christianity lies.
I think DE is more referring to the total Biblical inerrancy (literalism),
Eh, considering the Bible to be inerrant is different from considering it to be completely literal. It can still be inerrant while acknowledging relevant context of the original writings, the use of metaphor, and when the text itself acknowledges certain things are the opinions of the writer.
You’re basically just asking for a conversation in which our opinions aren’t represented. This is the appropriate thread for me to voice my views on this subject. It’s not like I’m saying these things in the NFL thread or the Harmy’s Despecialized thread.
But your opinion has already long since been made. Beating it to death accomplishes nothing. The fact that several of you agree with each other allows you to validate and feed off of each other, in a continually negative and disparaging discussion.
If I have anything positive or deep to say, it gets drowned out by people’s complaints. Suffice it to say, this is the Religion: The Bitching Thread thread, and it annoys me.
Well I feel the same way about theists who keep trying to convince me I’m going to hell for picking the wrong deity.
I am not trying to convince you of that. And you don’t have to read the thread. It’s like, if people hate The Last Jedi, they don’t have to contribute to the relevant discussion threads being toxic by continually bashing on the film repeatedly and ruining meaningful discussion about the film. They can voice their opinion, but once it is thoroughly made, dead horses need not be beaten because it drags the conversation down.
No one is doing that.
Yes. Yes, you are.
Well I feel the same way about theists who keep trying to convince me I’m going to hell for picking the wrong deity.
I am not trying to convince you of that. And you don’t have to read the thread. It’s like, if people hate The Last Jedi, they don’t have to contribute to the relevant discussion threads being toxic by continually bashing on the film repeatedly and ruining meaningful discussion about the film. They can voice their opinion, but once it is thoroughly made, dead horses need not be beaten because it drags the conversation down.
I would enjoy talking about why faith or religion is meaningful to whomever might discuss such, and not necessarily specific to my own. Not continually complaining about why faith or religion is stupid.
I didn’t read the article. I just know he’s gotten shit for doing basically the exact same thing to Star Wars and other similar movies so I just assumed.
Babylon Bee is a parody news website. Just to be clear.
I’m sure the intent of this thread was not to create an avenue for atheistic circle-jerking.
Just saying. You guys have beaten the opinion that God doesn’t exist into the ground already. It does not require further expounding upon.
What program do you guys use? I personally use DVD fab (paid) and they burn smoothly.
What program do we use to burn to disc? I use ImgBurn.
Not really. Racism, iirc, is defined as discrimination and/or antagonism against a race/races, so I don’t think demographic grouping counts.
Racism is defining something. Or assuming something. Or judging something. Based on race. It doesn’t even have to be a negative.
So, to even acknowledge that someone is of another race is racist? I hate to be the guy that pulls out the dictionary
That guy has a name, and that name is chyron.
Targeting a particular demographic for a study does not inherently suggest a “them” mindset.
Shoelaces and sunburns.
Are you lacing up your sunburns or sunburning your shoelaces?
I broke my sunglasses the first day I wore them and now my eyes feel singed.
Staring at the sun is not advised.
Rapper Joey Badass dubbed ‘Joey Badeyes’ after tweeting about staring at eclipse
Shoelaces and sunburns.
Are you lacing up your sunburns or sunburning your shoelaces?
I can’t even mention the things I’ve let close acquaintances do for me.
team account confirmed.
My older sister is my favorite person on the planet, by far.
My older sister and I are friendly, but I do not count her as a “friend”. A close acquaintance, maybe. She watches my kiddo sometimes, and we can have a reasonable conversation about random things (in a group, say at a family party). However, she and I don’t have any similar interests but one, never hang out for any particular reason, and we don’t seek out each other’s opinion on really anything.
You let close acquaintances watch your kiddo?
My kiddo is not that hard to babysit. And when I go to church, the people watching the kids there are often acquaintances at best. Plus, I’m not paranoid. So yes.
Yeah, typically it’s the anti-TV and anti-video game crowd that are more out of touch with reality.
The real point people should make should be that reading, kinesthetic activities, and positive interaction with people face to face are beneficial for children (and probably for people in general). Not that playing video games is bad. I suppose there is something to say that the more time one does this means less time doing that. And doing those things has more intrinsic value than mere entertainment compared to games and TV. But that doesn’t mean playing games or watching TV promotes cognitive deficiency.
If I had kids, and I never will, I wouldn’t care too much about the harmless kids shows they watch on TV. I would, however, not let them on YouTube or other online video places, where the content aimed at young kids is genuinely terrifying.
(I didn’t click on that.) My wife and I watch family-friendly Let’s Plays of video games sometimes, but instead of watching them on Youtube, I download them and watch them through my media server because of the inapproprate ads that show up regularly on Youtube. My daughter can watch someone play Yoshi’s Wooly World or Wind Waker, but she doesn’t need to watch the R-rated movie trailer that pops up mid-stream.
Besides, the Youtuber would probably get more money from me if I sent them $5 on Patreon than by my meager number of views.
Man most let’s plays I’ve seen curse like sailors regardless of the game.
Yes. It’s annoying.
If I want to watch a game, I search through a lot of LPer’s playlists and cherry-pick the one I like. It’s not just about swearing, but also crude humor. In addition, they need to be entertaining.
Some people, like chuggaconroy, don’t necessarily swear but he makes sexist jokes among other immaturity. I started watching his Wind Waker LP, when he really early on made some joke about Tetra going back to the kitchen. Whether he was serious or not, my wife would definitely not find such comments funny. Conversely, I’ve found several people to be clean, but they approach an LP more like a walkthrough, so I’m trading dirty for bland.
I used to be less selective about who I frequently watch (even for myself) but have become much much moreso since my daughter was born.
LPer’s I watch lately are Gopher, StephenPlays, Olizandri, DazzLetsPlays, kwingletsplays, and MasaeAnela.
I bother expanding gay ice creams.
My older sister is my favorite person on the planet, by far.
My older sister and I are friendly, but I do not count her as a “friend”. A close acquaintance, maybe. She watches my kiddo sometimes, and we can have a reasonable conversation about random things (in a group, say at a family party). However, she and I don’t have any similar interests but one, never hang out for any particular reason, and we don’t seek out each other’s opinion on really anything.