chyron8472

AntcuFaalb said:

chyron8472 said:

unless you prefer him to be cut vertically down the middle from head to groin. :D

Like when Trunks cuts Mecha Frieza in half in Dragon Ball Z!

If Adywan could pull off a similarly-amazing shot, then... I don't know. I'd love him forever.

I was joking.

So when I said he could be cut in half, I was thinking less Dragonball Z and more Tom and Jerry.

muddyknees2000 said:

metalmunki said:

 

I think the issue people had with Boba's death is not the finality of it, but the fact that it's death by slapstick. 

All the more reason to give him a more serious and definitive death.

How about Han hits his jetpack and makes it misfire, and... wait for it...

...and then Luke's saber inadvertently cuts him in half before he then drop into the Sarlacc pit? :)

That is, cut in half at the torso... unless you prefer him to be cut vertically down the middle from head to groin. :D

The Nerd said:

Lucas said that he would have given Boba a bigger death scene if he was going to know how popular he would become.

I call bullshit. Of all the changes Lucas has made, he never bothered to make that one.

Bullshit, I say.

Xvid now available on the spleen.

Ronster said:

Sorry for double posting but I have to say If it could be done but It would probably be perhaps extremely difficult.

The Prequel trilogy done in a 70's sci-fi movie style. Not only would it grant a lot of artistic licence in terms of design but it could borrow a lot from this era.

Again with the sci-fi...

Star Wars is not sci-fi. It's fantasy, just set in space. And the Original Trilogy has been compared to have, in many ways, the style of a western.

For the PT to have a 70's sci-fi feel, or for the pursuit of/negotation for technological advancement to be a forefront part of Ep. 1's plot I think entirely misses mark on trying to make the PT feel like the OT does.

NeverarGreat said:

MattMahdi said:

I love your signature:

The changes that George Lucas has made over the years to Star Wars is the equivalent of someone keying your car. On an intellectual level, you know that the car still works, and its only marred a fraction of a percent of the paintjob. On an emotional level, every time you see it, it's all you can focus on, and it makes you want to rip someone's face off.

But technically a movie is "the paint job". And if by "keying" it you mean removing all the paint, replacing the expensive sound system with a cheap knockoff, putting sawdust in the engine, painting it a subtly different color, then plastering it with distracting decals and bumper stickers, then you would be approaching what they did to Star Wars. It's the same car, it just looks, sounds, and feels entirely different.

The only bright side to this is that the car has been detailed, so that even the lines in the leather seats are easier to make out.

In truth, what I care most about is getting those fake-looking Jabba and Sy Snoodles bobblehead dolls off the dash.

adywan said:

If a race has perfected the process and that all it's inhabitants are living proof, this would be something that could potentially be a gold mine. Palpatine wants his army of clones mass produced. He's from Naboo and knows all about the Gungans. It's all part of his plan.

Not "all".

If all of them are clones, then there's the question of replicative fading (errors created by making copies of copies).

Also, if I may say, the whole idea sounds too "sci-fi" and not enough "space fantasy".

Regarding the Yub Nub debate:

I want the original theatrical ending. Adywan can change it if he wants, but if he does, he'd better have a seamless branching option, so that people can have a choice between the new ending or the old one.

Also, if he doesn't reinstate the original theatrical Lapti Nek, I will be greatly displeased.

Theatrical Lapti Nek is win.
album version of Lapti Nek sucks.
Jedi Rocks sucks.

The only (potentially) acceptable option other than restoring theatrical Lapti Nek is to completely remove that scene and just cut straight to the introduction of Boushh.

ray_afraid said:

 

Side note- Love your avatar chyron! LOZ FTW!

Thanks. :)

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is my favorite game. Of course, Ocarina of Time, A Link to the Past and Wind Waker are also way up there on the list.

Skyward Sword is okay, but it's not my favorite. I prefer WW's boat controls to SS's bird controls; SS has too many reused bosses and eyeball bosses; and a couple of the bosses look too much like Pokemon.

ray_afraid said:

chyron8472 said:

In The Phantom Menace, Ki-Adi-Mundi (a Jedi on the council) says that "the Sith have been extinct for a millenium." Who would have most likely wiped them out? The Jedi, obviously. One would think they despise the Jedi for that.

Why is that so obvious? Was it established earlier that it's common place for the Jedi to eradicate entire groups of people? In Star Wars Obi-Wan mentions that Vader hunted down and destroyed the Jedi Knights, but there is no mention anywhere that the Jedi also hunted down and destroyed the Siths. Once again, none of this is "obvious" unless you've read a bunch of EU books and comics.

For the record, I've only read the Darth Bane books (which, incidentally, are written by Drew Karpyshyn, the lead writer for the first 2 Mass Effect games and SW:KOTOR, among other things). That doesn't qualify as "a bunch." Also, I know how to Google for results on Wookieepedia, which is what told me the difference between a Sith and a Dark Jedi--not my having read EU books.

Anyway, it is obvious that the Jedi would have been responsible for eradicating the Sith because they're the only people who stand the remotest possible chance of accomplishing it.

Although, actually...
Spoiler:

 

in the Darth Bane books, it was not the Jedi who destroyed most of the Sith. it was Darth Bane himself, as he wanted to become more powerful, and had discovered that the more dark force users there were, the less power each of them had. He then decided that the best way to destroy the Jedi was to for the Sith to hide in secrecy, gain power, and only reveal themselves to the Jedi when it was too late.

So, either the Darth Bane books (which were written after Episode I was already released) are correct, and Palpatine was lying to Maul about the Sith seeking revenge in order for Maul to gain power through hatred; or else they are unofficial EU books which don't fit to the movies, and the revenge that is sought most likely directly relates to the Sith having become near-extinct at the hands of the Jedi.

Take your pick.

AntcuFaalb said:

TV's Frink said:

That blog post made my head explode.

Like here? http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/How-to-Calibrate-your-TV-Please-read-the-first-post/post/601058/#TopicPost601058

;)

Nope. Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R22zSrpeSA4

Harmy's Despecialized Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi are all on Myspleen.

1978.

Believe it or not, my earliest memories of Star Wars are listening to the Return of the Jedi Read-Along Book and Tape. :)

I can't recall when I first watched the movies. I do, however, remember that my parents must have had a pirate copy of "Star Wars" (which I think might have been widescreen) because I can distinctly recall the final shot of the throne room and the thought that the black bars were annoying and stupid (hey, I was a kid and it wasn't explained why they were there). So, obviously I didn't watch it.

But I do remember when my parents gave me the "Faces" VHS box set. I think it was for my birthday.

ray_afraid said:

Jaitea said:

It made perfect sense to name the Dark Force users Sith in the Prequels (about the only thing that did) 

Yeah, it makes sense to call them that, but what this revenge they are seeking is about is never explained in the films, yet the 3rd one is titled "Revenge Of The Siths" as if it were a major part of the story. I can remember Maul saying "at last we will have our revenge" and i can remember thinking, "well, I guess we will find out what that's all about in the next one..." but, as far as I remember, they never explained...

I thought I just explained that.

In The Phantom Menace, Ki-Adi-Mundi (a Jedi on the council) says that "the Sith have been extinct for a millenium." Who would have most likely wiped them out? The Jedi, obviously. One would think they despise the Jedi for that.

Not to mention the Sith are evil, so they hate the Jedi anyway, and Palpatine is quite likely to have devised some reason--any reason--to get Maul to despise them further (since hate makes him powerful).

emanswfan said:

Really the intense force powers and lightning should not be shown till ROTJ.  If the order of the films is to truly be 1-6, the action and tension needs to build up on eachother.

I agree with this.

Many people point out how the PT ruins the revalation that Vader is Luke's father in ESB, but they don't mention how shocking (no pun intended) it was for the Emperor to suddenly start electrocuting Luke right out of nowhere in ROTJ.

I think it's important to retain that shocking moment at the climax of the final movie.

SpilkaBilka said:

Awesome, thanks for uploading these.

How exactly does the Miami version differ from the regular version?  (I have both the regular and Miami version of the PAL building Empire, but haven't had time to watch them yet).

http://bit.ly/ribBg4

Jamie says about [the Miami Underground Film Festival] version:

The MUFF Edition includes some snippets from the “lost” “The Making of The Empire Strikes Back” which was made for Sigma Television (France). Gary Kurtz the producer of Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back has a copy and so does a guy called Stefan on the originaltrilogy.com forums. But swore not to distribute it. He did however release some snippets for my exclusive use. So you see more of the unused Wampa sequence filmed in Finse, Norway and some additional clips throughout the film.

Now seeding the NTSC version (of BE, RJ and SWB) on the spleen.

If anyone has the NTSC format Miami version of Building Empire, I would be grateful.

How does Star Wars Begins compare to Deleted Magic?

I haven't seen Deleted Magic.

You should give the theatre a copy of Harmy's remasters. :)

doubleofive said:

Or:

http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/anhr-change-list/

Well, yeah. I copied/pasted that entire change list into the DVD9 and Purist torrents I put on the spleen.

I think he was confused because the Purist version was made after the DVD9 (and further down on the list of versions), and so it wasn't clear to him which one was the version he had heard people raving so much about.

There's over 2 and quarter hours of footage in each of the prequel films. Various edits have cut ~50 minutes from each film, and the result are still 90+ minutes long.

A 90 minute film is still a good size, and to cut almost an hour of footage can change quite a lot, so to say the prequels are irreparable is a gross exaggeration. They may not be wonderful, but they can still be good.

Reposting this from a PM, since there might be other people wondering.

chyron8472 said:

someone said:

I keep hearing lots of praise for Adywan's, for the lack of a better word "Fan SE", but when I look for it I see a few things about the available versions that confuse me a bit.  The seemingly newest release is the "purist" which is also the smallest as it is an NTSC DVD-5.  The oldest file seems to be the highest quality, though I think I've seen negative remarks from Adywan or the torrent uploaders about how current the edits are in the older files.  So, what I'm taking from this so far is that the older, higher quality files are not up to date, and the lower quality (compared to HD) larger (compared to purist DVD-5) DVD-9 has more progress (compared to HD), and the purist DVD-5 has some of the, I suppose crazier, stuff from the DVD-9 removed?  So, what version is the go-to version that everyone is raving about?

The DVD9 (largest version) is the best.

Adywan showed his edit to a few people who work in the film industry or else worked in some capacity on a on of the OT Star Wars films, and there were changes that he made which they weren't so crazy about. So, he made a "Purist" version which redacted some of the changes.

These are things such as: changing the order of dialogue in Ben Kenobi's house so that it plays out how it was originally shot/written in the original script (the scene was edited later); changing the initial reveal of the Death Star so that it orbits a planet (as they were still working on it and it wasn't fully operational yet); and changing the music which can be heard during Obi-Wan's duel with Vader.

I recommend the DVD9 version. It has the most extras; it has a title menu (the purist version doesn't); and to be honest, I don't mind the changes.

Rather than getting the Purist version, I recommend getting the Revisited DVD9 and Harmy's Despecialized Edition v2.1 AVCHD. That way, you'll have the SE as it should have been and the OOT in HD, rather than having a sort of in-between.

ray_afraid said:

chyron8472 said:

 

The Sith are the opposite of the Jedi.

Jedi are good; Sith are evil.
Jedi use the light side of the force; Sith use the dark side.

Thanks! That's what I figured, but I'm pretty sure I read a post saying that someone doesn't want any more Siths in the new movies, but just dark side force users... made me think there must be a difference.

Read the part of my post which explains the difference between a Sith and a Dark Jedi.

In a nutshell, Dark Jedi and Sith likely used to be interchangeable when the Original Trilogy films first came out, since no one in the OT used either term to refer to Vader or Palpatine. But, various books over the years have come to establish that the Sith are are an organized sect of force-users who have a recorded history and their own code which they follow, while Dark Jedi are rogue dark side force-users who have no such code nor any allegiance to anyone.

Tobar said:

 

DARTH MAUL : At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge.

DARTH SIDIOUS : You have been well trained, my young apprentice, they will be no match for you. It is too late for them to stop us now. Everything is going as planned. The Republic will soon be in my command.

What "revenge" is he talking about?

In the past, the Sith became too powerful, and the Jedi worked to wipe them out. Either the Sith feel oppressed by the Jedi, or else Palpatine only told this to Maul to help motivate him--it wouldn't be the first time he's lied to an apprentice.

No, he has to make it to MY specifications. OR ELSE!

(I'm kidding.)

michaelkirschner said:

chyron8472 said:

To be perfectly honest, I might prefer for the BD's main menu to not say "Despecialized" on it.

I would love to be able to give this to people (ie. everyone I know who remotely cares about Star Wars like I do) and for them to have no initial indication that it's not official.

Because I have said before that the best thing that can be said about a fanedit (though this is not an "edit") is that it doesn't look like it's fan made. And also, for me, Harmy is restoring Star Wars to what it should be, not making it his own, so I feel it fitting that this ought to be made to look as official as possible.

 

EDIT: Although, the idea of a Harmy title card before the Fox Fanfare starts at the beginning of the film, or else maybe at the opening of the main menu (a la Adywan) wouldn't bother me at all.)

 

Maybe I'm just not keen on the word "Despecialized" being written next to the movie title.

You would also have to label the disc to make it look professional. Do you know how to do that?

I can try.

I'd have to know what the special features are first in order to do it properly.

Then again, the AVCHDs of ESB and ROTJ have no special features, so they'd look different, and consistency between labels is a good thing.

I have been making some labels for the DeEd trilogy, but it seems the backs need work.

Yeah, like small unobtrusive text in the bottom right corner of the menu. Many games put version numbers in the bottom right corner of the menu.