I gave Q2s Prequels and Harmy’s DE to my cousin, Josh, for his birthday on Saturday, and I used 2.5 Recolored for Star Wars.
I went to a relative’s house tonight for a family get-together because my cousin was in town. My cousin works at Disney, on the software for Disney Movies Anywhere.
I was talking to him about Star Wars, and he told me about how, a week before TFA came out, people in his office there at Disney dragged a bunch of chairs and couches from various conference rooms into one large room and watched all 6 Star Wars movies on a projector.
And when they watched the Original Trilogy, they watched Harmy’s Despecialized Editions. In an office at Disney.
No joke.
He also said that it was his understanding that an 8k scan had been done of the OUT. I asked if it was from the original negative, and he said he didn’t know if it was from the actual original negative, but at the very least it would only have been within a couple generations from the o-neg, which is certainly closer than the prints our community have been using.
He did agree that a major sticking point is the fact that Fox owns eternal distribution rights to Star Wars (aka. A New Hope), and it was for that same reason that Disney Movies Anywhere (the software he develops) does not include that particular movie in its catalogue.
But, and I reiterate this, he already knew about Harmy’s Despecialized Editions before I said anything. I gave Q2s Prequels and Harmy’s DE to a relative for his birthday on that day (whose 14yo daughter said she had never seen any SW movies), and when I explained the OT was the original versions, my cousin asked if they were Harmy’s.
If I may ask, why are L8wrtr’s prequel edits (and only L8wrtr’s edits, among the various available) listed on the Ultimate Guide?
What Ultimate Guide?
The Ultimate Introductory Guide.
Nitpicker, stop picking nits. 😉
I went to a relative’s house tonight for a family get-together because my cousin was in town. My cousin works at Disney, on the software for Disney Movies Anywhere.
I was talking to him about Star Wars, and he told me about how, a week before TFA came out, people in his office there at Disney dragged a bunch of chairs and couches from various conference rooms into one large room and watched all 6 Star Wars movies on a projector.
And when they watched the Original Trilogy, they watched Harmy’s Despecialized Editions. In an office at Disney.
No joke.
If I may ask, why are L8wrtr’s prequel edits (and only L8wrtr’s edits, among the various available) listed on the Ultimate Guide?
What are the major differences? (besides the addition of editor commentary)
Threw together some covers for my cousin. I know they have their issues, but it looks fine for him since he’s not nitpicky on the details. I really liked the TFA-style title text, though.
JEDIT: The issues I refer to are things such as:
But my cousin probably won’t examine it as closely as that. Next time, I’ll use a better poster, and create my own TFA-style titles so that I can position the posters properly.
Here they are with the colour fixed around the Rebel/Empire emblems.
I also removed all mention of “A New Hope” in case anyone wants to use it for a despecialized edition (as I will be).
Can you make Prequel versions of these, please?
I already went through the film and gave towne some feedback on certain shots/scenes.
I’ll look at the higher bitrate version you linked me to tonight, towne. Sorry I hadn’t got to it last night. Was busy doing dad-related stuff.
TV’s Frink said:
OT Vader doesn’t ask stupid questions like that.I wonder if it possible to edit the scene so he would just walk into the office and instantly help Palpatine by cutting Windu’s hand (just after he delivers the “you can’t” and “i need him” lines, with “he must stand trial” removed), and not sit afterwards but would rather stand and discuss with Palpatine their next move. So all the “dark side knighting” part of the scene should be removed
I’m pretty sure this is the way it’s cut here.
Wow, losing the “what have I done?” REALLY helps that scene in RotS.
You really think so ? Because only 5 minutes later Anakin has no second thoughts killing Jedi (and kids !) in the Temple. The “what have I done?” line has however a meta value, with Lucas expressing himself through Anakin 😃
“You don’t know the power of the Dark Side. I must obey my master.” -Vader in ROTJ
Give everyone googly eyes.
Give everyone googly eyes.
Thanks. Hopefully that will consist of taking a good month or so detoxing from Star Wars altogether!
Well, in either case, it’s rude to just walk into a random thread and say “Yeah, this story you’re trying to fix. Yeah, it sucks. You might be able to make it suck very slightly less, but it still sucks. Have a nice day.”
The guy says he just created an account, and some random noob walks in and says “But why?!?”
Jerk.
Interesting… It seems to me that the majority of people watching it would be doing so digitally (since it’s a web file). Will he be releasing it in a smaller digital format?
If you want it in a smaller file, reencode it with Handbrake. But if I were you, I’d still get the MKV to begin with because of all the audio tracks.
Public torrent exists, look up Return of the Jedi Harmy on kat.cr its literally one of the first results.
Try to keep up, Hayden
Nice. Probably needs to wear a Vader suit as a result of that BURN.
All hail the Frinkiac.
I was wondering if someone could drop me a myspleen invite?
Cheers guys
PM sent.
Now now, children. Play nice.
And besides the whole “inconsistencies” thing. What it’s really about is creating movies which have interesting characters with believable motives and also telling a good story. I believe Q2’s and Hal’s edits tell good stories. I believe that they, meanwhile, also succeed in making Anakin’s fall believable by changing his motives. But I prefer Q2’s storytelling decisions for specific reasons.
Simple as that.
Removing inconsistencies with new ones is not a good deal.
Yes it is. I’m not saying one should fanedit the OT story elements. I already said the OT is fine. But it does have inconsistencies, like Ben saying Imperial Stormtroopers are precise; or 3PO saying he’s not very good at telling stories; or Han saying Lando is the respectable one; or Ben saying Anakin wanted Luke to have his lightsaber when he was old enough, even though to protect him from the Emperor, Luke was hidden from his father when he was born; or saying Luke was hidden from his father when he was born while Ben seemed to have had to give up the name Obi-Wan long before then.
Again, I say watch Fall of the Jedi before you pick it apart. And try to give benefit of the doubt going in, because if you expect to be disappointed then that’s likely what you’ll get.
Just to clear something up, in order to lessen any disappointment: Anakin’s fall to the dark side will never be really believable with the available material.
I disagree.
I don’t think it works (if it does to you, I believe you): if you remove the naming and the suit from EpIII, some events of EpIV appear to be incomprehensible (“Vader, who was a people of mine”, “now I am the Master”) instead of being mysterious.
It’s not incomprehensible. It works. Between 3 and 4, Obi-Wan would have learned of Vader’s existence and known it was Anakin. Besides, Obi-Wan never called Anakin “Vader” in the theatrical version anyway. And the OT has inconsistencies with itself, without the help of the PT.
All I’ll say is, just watch Q2’s Trilogy before you proceed to pick it apart. It’s good.
Oh. No, I’d say leave it to the audience to fill in the gaps. Subtlety is better than being force fed information, and as I said, the quality of the footage wouldn’t match. Just have a good story, with interesting, believable characters. The backstory doesn’t have to be explained entirely on screen.
The OT doesn’t need to have PT footage inserted into it. It’s the PT that needs to be edited to fit the OT, not the other way around. Adywan’s edits for example, while wonderful, don’t change story elements. He just updates the quality of certain special effects and he fixes prop inconsistencies.
The OT is fine in its original form.
