@tvsfrink
Joke pimp much?I don’t know what that means.
It means he’s a joke whore and you’re his pimp… I think.
@Tvsfink
I just like to be random.
I don’t get it.
Man this show is a complete train wreck!
When I first saw this Klingon ship concept I thought immediately of “Stargate: Atlantis”. And that is not a good thing.The video I link to below is a fair rundown of the situation thus far.
“Star Trek Discovery in Trouble? Rumor Rundown” = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5qVwZvjm8What in christ’s sake is that thing
It looks like it was constructed from a repurposed peacock corpse, complete with fossilized feathers.
I didn’t read the number at first (just assumed it was a random big number), so I didn’t get the reference until someone pointed it out.
YOU’RE NOT A REAL FAN!!!
I didn’t mean that. I meant it was my perception that people, who loved Star Wars enough to regularly follow and participate in discussion about fan-created post-release edits of them, would likely easily pick up on such a reference. And especially for certain people here, whom I perceive to be some of the pickiest nitpickers to ever pick nits when it comes to Star Wars.
But no, I guess monolithism isn’t actually a thing one should fit a fanbase into.
On fanart.tv, I found these posters:
I am unsure whether any of you made them, but I tried to contact the uploader there to no reply.
Is it possible for someone here to create a similar Rogue One poster? I have already created a TFA-style logo for any project that could use it:
“2187” I see what you did there.
I don’t get it.
That’s a SHOCKER!
To be fair I didn’t get it until I looked it up.
Not sure if serious.
Okay, assuming you are serious (I mean, you sound serious, but you’re Frink, so…), this is the community that argues about the correct color of sand snow on Chewie’s foot. How is a reference to 2187 unknown to anyone in the Star Wars community by this point?
I have never been able to see anything wrong with the GOUT. Could somebody tell me what the big deal is?
It’s a non-anamorphic, letterboxed (black bars added to the video frame to make it fit a 4:3 ratio) DVD release of a previous laserdisc transfer. It has motion smearing (frames bleed into each other), severe color fading, extremely low resolution (see aforementioned letterboxing), poor sound quality, and aliasing (pixelly edges on curved objects)… among other things.
It’s decent if you compare it to VHS, but that’s about it. When trying to restore bluray quality footage to a non-SE state, GOUT footage stands out because it’s much lower quality. It’s not unwatchable; it’s just not a preferred source for footage when better sources are available for the project.
And Harmy basically was just now saying that, up until very recently, there were not better sources than the GOUT for specific non-SE scenes in the movie Star Wars.
You say your ‘interest in the Revisited project has long since fizzled out’, and yet you still find the time to troll this forum with your worthless opinion. And your opinion is worthless on this forum if all you’re doing is posting here to complain about the fact that the project is taking longer than you personally would like it to, that you would rather Ady did something different to what he’s actually going to with regards to releasing it, and to grumble that you’re no longer interested in the project.
If you don’t like it here, why don’t you leave?
Oh, shut up. I hang out in other threads here. I’m not trolling; I just have an opinion, and decided to convey it. I did say “Ady can do what he wants.” It’s his project, not mine. And the forum exists, not just to follow projects, but to have conversations about them.
I don’t have to leave just because you take personal offense for no reason.
And I’m not “entitled.” I just wish I had something to tide me over because I really don’t care about any OT SE edits other than this one, nor any offical releases post-GOUT, so the only SEs that I acknowledge at all are what Adywan is doing with them.
Damn it, I make one negative comment and you guys are ready to throw me out an airlock. Grow up.
Well before I do ‘shut up’ (thank you for that, by the way. Very mature)
You’re welcome. Nice to know people aren’t allowed to show indignance when you jump down their throats.
I would point out that it was you that claimed in your first post that your ‘interest in the Revisited project has long since fizzled out’
Yes. I only pay cursory attention to it once in a great while. I follow it on Facebook, but you know how that can go when things show up on your news feed that you only partially pay attention to.
and then in your second post that you ‘don’t care about any OT SE edits other than this one’.
Okay. No, I don’t. I refuse to watch the official Blurays, particularly Jedi; and I pay zero attention to any other OT edits, primarily because Ady set such a high bar for ANH:R. I don’t need to watch a version of Jedi with no Ewoks.
HD restorations of the OOT on the other hand: I’m all about that. Yay, Harmy.
Well… there is the Ridiculous Saga, but I don’t count that because it’s not serious.
Can you make up your mind please?
I can have once been super excited about Revisited but not have had significant interest in it in recent years, while still wishing for something. I imagine a lot of people, who don’t know about (or bother with) downloading fanedits or preservations, have similar feelings about waiting for official HD versions of the OOT to come from Disney.
You say your ‘interest in the Revisited project has long since fizzled out’, and yet you still find the time to troll this forum with your worthless opinion. And your opinion is worthless on this forum if all you’re doing is posting here to complain about the fact that the project is taking longer than you personally would like it to, that you would rather Ady did something different to what he’s actually going to with regards to releasing it, and to grumble that you’re no longer interested in the project.
If you don’t like it here, why don’t you leave?
Oh, shut up. I hang out in other threads here. I’m not trolling; I just have an opinion, and decided to convey it. I did say “Ady can do what he wants.” It’s his project, not mine. And the forum exists, not just to follow projects, but to have conversations about them.
I don’t have to leave just because you take personal offense for no reason.
I didn’t say Ady is finding things to intentionally delay this. I said it feels that way. I’m impatient, okay? Jeez.
And I’m not “entitled.” I just wish I had something to tide me over because I really don’t care about any OT SE edits other than this one, nor any offical releases post-GOUT, so the only SEs that I acknowledge at all are what Adywan is doing with them.
Damn it, I make one negative comment and you guys are ready to throw me out an airlock.
I think DeEd v2+ is already GOUT free.
Star Wars still has some GOUT.
Are you sure? I thought he replaced it all with TN1 scans at least by v2.5.
And the scene that was intentionally left GOUT I think is in Return of the Jedi. Like the shot where Boba Fett flies across the screen before smashing into the barge or something like that.
I feel like this project is generating new things to delay it. Adywan and the crew can do whatever they want, but I feel a better approach would have been to release a v1.0 for ESB:R and ROTR:R and continue improving through different versions.
I find that, because this is what Harmy is doing with his restorations, I am continually interested in the Star Wars franchise beyond any other franchise I like. However, as ESB:R alone is is 9 or so years in the making without a release in the can, my interest in the Revisited project has long since fizzled out.
Again, Ady can do what he wants with his own project, but I wish we had something feature length at this point, even if it was technically unfinished.
CatBus said:
Only Harmy can say for sure, but he has said he’s not likely to do an all-film-sourced DeEd, because at that point, lots of others could do that work (although I’d personally still encourage him to go for it, because he has demonstrated solid skills beyond despecializing). I expect we’ll see something more like Jedi 2.5, where lots of pure film footage was mixed in, but only where it blended well with the surrounding footage. I’m sure film sources will be heavily used in despecializing Blu-ray footage though. Complete lack of GOUT is a pretty safe bet though.
I think DeEd v2+ is already GOUT free.
…I think. I remember Harmy saying he left in a single GOUT source in one shot in homage to the history of the project, but I don’t remember what it was.
Harmy, will you please consider doing an editor’s commentary track? Maybe you could get other people who helped with aspects of the project in on it.
I know we’ve mentioned that before, but it really would be fascinating.
I guess most of us would be willing to fork out insane money to have an official 4k BR release with the extras to go with that
With the bitrate at which Harmy releases the 720p Despecialized Edition nearly filling up a BD25, it makes me wonder what the filesize would be for a 4K version of a similar bitrate.
…not that I care about 4K, myself. I just wonder.
Three words: Plex Media Server.
There are Plex clients for numerous different set-top and mobile streaming devices, including PS3.
I’m glad you mentioned those three words. The Plex GUI is so pretty with the little posters and all. I could not get it to work with PS3, but with android devices and Chromecast Ultra, there’s no need for PS3 anymore.
Cheers!
You have an entry for each fan edit. I used to do that but lately I just have one entry for each film, set my preferred version as the main file, and have the rest listed as featurettes.
…and I agree; I don’t use my PS3 anymore for movies or TV shows. I use my Roku instead.
Sorry if this is off-topic discussion.
I think the scene feels ‘edited’ when we have Tarkin joining Palpatine to gaze out the window and miming “I’ll leave you two to it” without the Death Star.
Yes, and I disagree. I think the scene feels forced with the Death Star in it. Like another fan-service-y reference to the OT. Tarkin is there, but being involved in that project surely has not been his only job. (I have not read the book “Tarkin” yet so I don’t know his official backstory.)
At some point, when I actually get around to it, I’m going to reinsert Coruscant into Hal’s then-latest edit (since the version with it doesn’t also have the Russian Vader scream and I liked that as well.)
…and also insert Hal’s (or L8wrtr’s) space battle over Naboo into Q2’s edit, but that’s off topic for this thread.
this has been discussed endlessly in other threads.
Yes. I’m just saying they do not have “no” excuse; just a bothersome bureaucratic one.
EDIT: Oh, and thank God for Harmy and all you guys who work on this project too. Seriously. I think Adywan will get done with Jedi:Revisited before Disney releases an official HD version, whatever the excuse they have.
I hope it doesn’t make all the star wars fan edits not be available anymore. 😦
George Lucas himself had long since known about fan edits. When asked about it in an interview, he said, while bitter about people doing it, he just cared that he had his version with his name on it (the article in question was actually about SW:Revisited).
Disney has had more than enough opportunity now to drop the hammer down on fan projects, but they haven’t. I was just saying, and I stress hypothetically, that making it too easy can bring it more mainstream, which has the hypothetical capacity to annoy them into action.
I also doubt a small handful of third party sellers on eBay are on Disney’s radar.
Disney hasn’t dropped the hammer because they realize they have no one but themselves to blame for Harmy’s efforts over the last four years even being necessary.
Actually, Fox owns permanent distribution rights of A New Hope (or “Star Wars”, actually). George sold it to them, so long as he had full rights of any merchadising and control over any sequels, in exchange for Fox’s agreement to produce the first film. That means if Disney is to officially release a pre-SE A New Hope, they have to agree to buy or lease distribution of it from Fox.
Yeah, good luck with that.
Where’d you find those posters?! I found them for SW and ESB, but not for RotJ or the Prequels…
Plex found it at fanart.tv apparently.
https://fanart.tv/movie/1892/star-wars-episode-vi-return-of-the-jedi/
It’s one of the sources my metadata agent uses.
Hal, would it be possible for you to put a Fox fanfare at the beginning? I still feel weird without it.
…Maybe it’s just that the Lucasfilm title card is so short. Makes me wonder if putting the Disney title card in would work.
While I enjoyed Q2’s edit of TPM (especially the first 30 minutes), the major problem with it is that a no-name pilot destroys the control ship at the climax of the movie. L8wrtr’s edit has Anakin doing this, edited to make his actions seem deliberate and confident. It is a needed payoff.
The best edit of TPM would be a combination of these two.
I agree. Put L8wrtr’s (or Hal’s? I haven’t compared the differences) space portion of the Battle of Naboo into Q2’s edit and that would solve my biggest irk with Q2’s Episode I. Albeit, for me, it’s still a minor issue when trying to find the best prequel trilogy.
The one thing I REALLY wish Q2 had that is in both L8 and Hal’s edits… is an editor’s commentary. I love their commentaries. I don’t like L8wrtr’s edits, but his commentaries are good. Hal’s maybe not as much because I think his Episode III commentary has too much complaining in it.
I have no problems, really… except I still prefer the scene replacing the Death Star with Coruscant.
I have some questions: Why was the Death Star replaced by Coruscant? What purpose serves really? I mean, i dont think its a bad idea, is just that I dont get it, why that change was made??
Do you mean “why was the Death Star replaced with Coruscant” or “why was the replacement of the Death Star with Coruscant then replaced with the Death Star again?”
I like for the Death Star’s construction to still be on the drawing board at this point. I mean, it’s 18 years or so until it’s completed. That’s a long time to be working on it only to have it rebuilt bigger and better just a few years after the first one is destroyed.
But Hal ultimately liked the scene with the Death Star in it better. I just disagree.
I am of two minds regarding the Death Star scene. I’m erring on the side of caution, I guess. It’s not part of the story of the prequels, and only appears during the pre-ANH traileresque ending montage. (There’s no reason to involve Geonosis or Dooku; at least here it remains an Imperial project.) I prefer to have Coruscant, technically, but emotionally feel the Death Star is what gives the scene its weight.
However, anyone wanting to hack at my cuts to tweak to their liking, it’d be a quick fix.
Will someone please put this on the Spleen?
When it is finished, yes it will be on myspleen
Okay, wait. It’s not finished? But it’s on .info with links and stuff.
I mean, I get that what’s available might be 1.0 or whatever and continuing efforts are being made. But Hal’s prequel edits are on v4.2 now or something and I’m not exactly sure when “finished” could have been considered in that case.
Will someone please put this on the Spleen?
Why aren’t the DVD covers here helpful? Can you not import custom covers? I don’t use Kodi, but I do use Plex and Plex’s scanners pick up a myriad of poster art including some that are distinctly Despecialized Edition.
Plex can also import custom covers from a local drive or from a url. Can Kodi not do that? If the DVD labels posted here only have the whole label (front to back) available, then it’s just a matter of cropping the image to include only front cover. You can do that with GIMP or MSPaint.
I’m not sure why you can’t crop an image yourself and import it. Can Kodi seriously not do that?
I’m not sure why Kodi has a problem displaying custom covers.
EDIT: Just read this thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/id/54295
…oh. You mean Despecialized fanart (meaning background images), not just posters. Yeah, there ought to be more of those made.
My favorite prequel edits are Q2’s Fall of the Jedi Trilogy. Hands down. No contest.
Fall of the Jedi Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HesmWVhuTg4
My prefered “Extended Edition” cuts of the prequels are Hal9000’s edits.
It works because Padme’s fate is the same in both (meaning she lives long enough for Leia to remember her in Return of the Jedi).
I like Q2’s because he does a great job making revelations in the Original Trilogy fairly spoiler-free when watching in chronological order. This means, among other things, that the last we see of Anakin before the end of Episode III, he was burning to death on the side of a lava flow. Also, he removes most of the footage with the droids and any mention of them or dialogue they have, which helps the tone and flow of the movies a lot. Two things I do think Hal does, however, that’s superior to Q2 are the title crawls and renamed Episode subtitles (eg. “The Approaching Storm”), but those are minor issues for me.
I liken it to this: Q2’s Fall of the Jedi edits are the best, definitive edition, and sort of a “theatrical release”; while Hal’s add extra, albeit OT-spoilery footage in an “extended edition” sort of way. …to me it feels that way.
Basically, Q2’s fan edits won me back over with the Prequels when I hated them. They fix a lot of things wrong with the films and make them into good, solid, watchable experiences. Then, after it was long established that I now liked the prequels, I could then enjoy what could very well be considered as deleted scenes reinserted into Q2’s to make Hal’s extended editions. Hal didn’t outright do that nor intend it, but their storylines don’t contradict each other so it works for me to think of them that way.
That is to say, if you already like the theatrical versions, I suggest either Q2 or Hal9000 or both. If you don’t like the theatrical versions (except for Episode III kind of), I very very highly recommend Q2, because his may just change your mind.
I don’t like L8wrtr’s edits because he kept certain cameos by Greedo and Chewie in Ep’s 1 and 3, which make the galaxy smaller; Yoda escapes from the troopers’ Order 66 with no explanation how he does it (WTF moment, basically); and also because Padme dies. The edited scene where Padme lives is a must have for me at this point (and there are only 2 edits that have this scene: Hal’s, and Q2’s. It was inspired by The Cutter but I don’t think he has a full fan edit release). There are also other reasons I don’t like L8wrtr’s but those come readily to mind as I sit here thinking about it.
I don’t like Kerr’s Episode III because everything is sped up, as though from a PAL transfer. He is the best editor to create a “Sith Reveal” for Palpatine becoming Sidious, but that alone is not enough to ignore the fact that the framerate for the whole film was inexplicably sped up.
I don’t like like Stankpac’s Episode III either, because his latest attempt at a Sith Reveal for Palpatine (while inspired by Kerr) has a poorly done heartbeat and thunderclap added, and his fan editor title card has a mostly naked woman on it, which (as a dad and uncle to kiddos) is not family friendly.
