chyron8472

oojason said:

Good folk - please lay off using words like ‘dick’ when criticising or critiquing fellow members.

darth_ender said:

4. We need a cool shared password.  I refer you each to your luggage code for inspiration, like 1-2-3-4-5.

I submit Grey Orange Grey.

darth_ender said:

YodaFan67 said:

I just read Ender’s Game for the first time…wow! It’s a pretty well known book so I won’t give a review, just say that I enjoyed it. I connected with it like I haven’t connected with a novel in a while. And besides, the political and military angles to it were just fascinating .

You might not have guessed, but I’m a big fan of [Ender’s Game]. 😉

As am I.

Moo.

I mean… welcome back.

No, actually, I mean Moo.

(Just kidding. Welcome back, Warb.)

I’m listening to Star Wars: Darth Plagueis by James Luceno. I’m on chapter 11 of 30.

It’s… okay I guess.

Thank God. thejediknighthusezni has finally been banned. It is unclear whether it was permanent.

thejediknighthusezni said:

Lack of clarity is a very fair charge against me, because there are many many more I could name with specificity.

It’s not a lack of clarity that I charge against you. It is flamebaiting and incessant inane awfulness. You are childish and small, and you constantly bait people into arguing with you about your unbelievably preposterous and spiteful accusations.

You are petty, and you are rude. And your opinions and claims add nothing positive nor enlightening to the conversation.

Oh, SHUT UP already. -.-

JEDIT: Reported. Seriously.

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

Sorry to hear that, man. Not sure if it will be of any use to you but just in case…

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Place-to-Go-for-Emotional-Support/id/17350

It’s one of the few places here where everyone is treated with respect. 😉

Echoed.

I agree. And a little more knowledge might light our way.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

ray_afraid said:

I’m not so young or old that I need someone to read to me. 😉

Hey. I’m only 39

Ha, I always think of you as a teenager, but not because of your posts…for some reason it’s the avatar that does it.

I’m at a loss to explain why, however.

[JEDIT:] http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1113868 [/JEDIT]

These were taken 2 years ago.

ray_afraid said:

I’m not so young or old that I need someone to read to me. 😉

Hey. I’m only 39, and I love audiobooks. My wife and I have listened to Harry Potter (by Stephen Fry) and The Belgariad enough times to have lost count. And Orson Scott Card went on record in the afterword for the 30th Anniversary audiobook of Ender’s Game to say that he thought “hearing it read aloud is the superior way to experience this story.”

Before the majority of the populous was literate, and long before the advent of film and television, being a storyteller was actually a thing. Hearing a story told to you by an accomplished narrator can be an enjoyable experience.

Mike O said:

m_s0 said:

SilverWook said:

Perhaps we should make an Orville thread before the kvetching really starts?

I was referring to episode 3 of Discovery. Raw reaction, sorry if it wasn’t clear.

The Orville is flawed, but it has heart. Discovery is just… desperately, pointlessly contrarian, I guess? Also terribly written. And to think I thought the first two episodes were bad…

Yeah, episode 3 of Discovery, directed by Akiva Batman & Robin Goldsman, was not good. This dour, dark military sci-fi is like Battlestar Galactica, not Star Trek.

I went into watching episode 3 with low expectations since several of you say you hated it. I just now finished watching DSC episode 3, and… by the end, I liked it.

It is certainly not Trek Prime (and not just in style, but also for plot-related reasons). And yes, it does feel like dark military sci-fi. But it is starting to tell a good story, and I’m beginning to feel better about the show.

In part, Battlestar Galactica wasn’t just dark military sci-fi. It was risque. It was vulgar in it’s own made-up-words kind of way. It had drama seemingly for the sake of drama and not in a way that made the story believable. It was adult for reasons it didn’t need to be.

DSC is not Prime Trek, nor is is quite Kelvin either, but it is starting to be enjoyable for me.

JEDIT: Oh, and I like Captain Lorca (captain of Discovery). He does have an underlying sinister streak that Jason Isaacs brings outright to many other characters he plays (like Lucius Malfoy or Tavington from The Patriot), and he reminds me a bit of Captain Maxwell from TNG (O’Brien’s old captain from the episode “The Wounded”). It doesn’t bother me that Lorca isn’t like the Prime captains, as none of them are actually like each other really either. He has his own personality and command style. …and at least I can tell by his vocal inflections what his mood and intent is, unlike Captain Georgiou.

wat

Okay, you’ve established it doesn’t take someone intimately familiar with Trek to make a good Trek.

But why then exactly is Orville good and Discovery horrible? Who exactly decided on all the grit and argumentativeness, and a lack of focus on adventure (whether than means exploring space or exploring our humanity)?

Well, I for one will be glad if/when thejediknighthusezni gets a permaban. He’s an obnoxious, flamebaiting troll, and I’m getting really tired of it.

Yes, please shut him up. He does this flamebaiting stuff all the time.

DuracellEnergizer said:

TOS & DS9 managed to strike a balance between extremes. Why is it so hard for modern writers to do the same?

Because they are not fans of Trek. They do not understand why people would like DS9 because they never watched it. All they know is shows like The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, or Game of Thrones are popular (apparently, though not liked by me), but they don’t understand why that doesn’t translate correctly to the Star Trek universe.

I also watched the new BSG from start to finish, and I didn’t like really it at all. I kept waiting for “Riker to grow a beard” but it never happened. If anything, my suspension of disbelief broke more and more concerning things like how what’s-his-name could be roaming the ship talking to someone who wasn’t there without raising concern; or how he built an Enemy Spy Detector and no one checked his work to ensure his reported results were legit.

At the very least, there need to be extremely strict, and strictly enforced gun ownership laws.

Okay, then yes. I think we should. But it would never happen here. Not ever.

However, there are people who make the argument that the difference between this-firearm-that-is-banned and that-firearm-that-is-not is the banned one is black and the not-banned one has a wooden stock. Or this-specific-gun was banned so the manufacturer changed the grip and lengthened the magazine; so now the “new” one is not banned.

Also, I remember that after the night club shooting, Obama said he could GPS his phone but not a gun if he had one, that that should actually be a thing that is required, and we ought to invest in such a technology. I thought that was an interesting concept, if somewhat impractical.

Realistically, I just really think the culture will not do anything whatsoever until it hurts too much not to act.

I’m sorry. I haven’t seen that movie in ages. It’s so irretrievably awful.

No amount of fan editing can fix it, and that’s saying a lot considering the improvements made to other severely panned films like the Star Wars prequels.

yhwx said:

Should we ban all guns?

Such a question assumes the answer to the relevant problem is not obvious.
But it is obvious. The problem is no one cares enough to solve it rather than play the blame game.

Case in point: Your question is not helpful.

yhwx said:

I’m not sure how saying that you don’t like Trump is childish.

It is not relevant to that thread and would likely be considered as flamebait.

It’s extremely obviously derivative of Trek though.
Just with toilet humor.

IMO, it would be like creating a Galaxy Quest thread. *shrug* Sure, I guess, but not really necessary.

SilverWook said:

ray_afraid said:

I hate Donald Trump.
(come at me, Frink)

I don’t know what’s gotten into people today

I ate a hot dog for lunch.

but it’s going to stop right now.

Aww…