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#1378432
Topic
The Rise Of Skywalker - Abrams' Vision or Executive Meddling?
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adywan said:

Hadrian sunrider said:

adywan said:

Hadrian sunrider said:

StarkillerAG said:

Dude, stop trying to blame everything on TLJ. That movie wasn’t universally hated like you think, most people actually liked it. The reason Solo bombed was because of Disney’s terrible marketing decisions, and TROS’s performance is actually pretty good for the third installment of a series. The anger of a few hardcore fans had nothing to do with it.

Revenge of the sith made more than AOTC

Return of the Jedi was dead even with empire strikes back

The sequel trilogy just went downhill with every installment with its latter two installments having the worst legs in December box office history

Do you really want to argue with math?

Well, lets talk the maths…

Stats or original release for the OT:

ANH - $503,015,849
ESB - $400,083,259
ROTJ - $374,593,074

And those were different times than now. Before the internet and before the rise of the internet trolls and “youtubers” shitting all over everything. ROTJ broke weekend box office records, but the numbers dropped pretty fast after the first week.

Sith made more than AOTC because of the hype surrounding Vader appearing in it and people hoping it would feel more like the OT. They wanted to see the Vader hunting down the jedi, they wanted to see the duel over lava and anakin become vader. It is something fans had wanted to see for decades. You can’t beat that type of hype.

So lets use other stats. Ticket sales. Est # ticket sales for each film (domestic) in ascending order:

ANH 178,119,500
TFA 108,115,100
ESB 98,213,400
ROTJ 94,059,400
TPM 90,312,100
TLJ 67,594,500
ROTS 59,324,600
ROS 54,984,300
AOTC 53,468,500

Jesus, fans must have hated ESB. Just look at how many less tickets were sold for that films compared to its predecessor.

The sequel trilogy performed perfectly well. You have to remember that China is a HUGE market for the film industry and its only in recent years that China has even shown any of the Star Wars films. So they haven’t grown up with the films and have an attachment to them as we all do. So a big chunk of the box office market is gone right there. Yet all three earned over $1 billion.

Solo under-performing had nothing to do with TLJ either. Right from the films announcement a lot of the fanbase just wasn’t that interested in the idea of it. Having someone playing Han Solo who wasn’t Harrison Ford turned them off the film right away. That was back in 2015, when Star Wars fever was at a high, 6 months prior to TFA being released. And then followed all the reports of the troubles during the making of it etc. That really didn’t help.

Then you had George jumping in and throwing his dummy out the pram after TFA because they didn’t use his story treatments> calling Disney the “white slavers” etc. You have that section of the fanbase that were loyal to george that decided they were going to boycott the Disney Star Wars out of loyalty to George.

On top of that you had the “Legends” crown that were boycotting everything because “Disney destroyed our Star Wars”

But what is really turning fans off Star Wars, isn’t the movies or TV series, but a certain section of the fanbase. Sucking the fun out of any online discussion about the franchise. You can’t even discuss the Disney films without a bunch of assholes jumping in, telling them that they are an idiot/ moron who must have low IQ if they liked the ST.

Wow…a 4 million ticket decline

Such a disaster

TLJ and TROS still dropped worse than any of the Star Wars sequels

And it’s not the fans that are killing the hype for Star Wars…it is the lack of interesting characters with long term value.

I have yet to see someone who wants to see Rey ever again

I could find a million fans who want Vader to be given a tv series or a movie

I can find no one who wants to see Rey even mentioned in future films

That is what is killing Star Wars.

Maybe get out of your little closed " the sequels are shit" circle and you’ll find there are plenty of people that would like to see Rey back at some point, along with Finn, BB-8 and other sequel characters. And of course you’ll see more people wanting a vader spin off. Vader is embedded in pop culture and has been around for 43 years.

StarkillerAG said:

Could you stop your constant anti-sequel spamming? People here have varying opinions about those movies, but it seems like the only thing you ever post is “sequel bad, everyone hates the sequels” which is just not true if you look outside your echo chamber for more than 5 minutes.

Yeh, his constant anti-sequel spamming pretty much proved my point that its the fans destroying star wars and not the films doing this. It just seems to blow this type of fans brains that people may have a different opinion on the films and actually like them. Its as if they have to try and force their view that nobody likes them, down peoples throats until they comply. THAT’S what is putting people off Star Wars.

Well said, Ady. I am one that would like to see Rey, BB-8, Finn, Poe, Rose, Jannah, Babu Frik, etc. all comeback eventually.

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#1367157
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Degraining doesn’t necesserily mean less detail, specially if it’s a static shot or a shot with little motion. Temporal averaging and things like that can actually improve detail, reduce video compression artifacts and film grain. As far as I know, the Lowry process is some sort of motion compensated temporal averaging and all three Star Wars original trilogy of films went through this process when they were digitally restored in 4K by Reliance Media Works. So, if the goal is to make 4K77 look closer to the 4K UHD official release, I guess temporal averaging is welcome.

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#1340774
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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44rh1n said:

Hey Harmy, thanks for the update. Love your work. Here are my two cents. You’ll definitely be able to do more with the new UHD rips than the new HD rips, because of the wide color gamut and 10-bit color. Even if your final delivery is in SDR, having the HDR version as a source will give you more details to pull from, especially in the shadows. Essentially, you can use it the same way you’d use Log camera footage. It will need to be graded though, otherwise it will look very flat. The other alternative would be to use the UHD source tonemapped to SDR, but in my opinion a tonemapped version would serve as an inferior source because you wouldn’t have that wide color gamut to work with anymore.

You can bring HDR footage into DaVinci Resolve and export it as ProRes (or TIFF/EXR/DPX, although those are overkill IMO), without tonemapping, and then that would serve as your best source for creating an SDR restoration with a custom grade. Resolve doesn’t handle MKV-wrappped files though, so you’d first need to rewrap an HEVC MKV remux to HEVC MP4 with ffmpeg (I recommend the GUI called Hybrid). I’d be happy to walk you through how to do any of this if you’d like. (Or I could do it myself and send the files to you, if someone can provide the BD UHD remuxes).

Just feel free to DM me if you want me to walk you through anything! Working with HDR footage is pretty simple once you wrap your head around it. 😃

Could you, please, make a tutorial on how to grade and export(in SDR) HDR Blu-rays or general video/media files in Resolve? Or at least point the way?

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#1323993
Topic
Star Wars: Remastered - A New Special Edition (WIP)
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Petrovelly said:

I’m working on Star Destroyer (by Ansel Hsiano, and the bridge from Angel) right now. It’s far from perfect, but I think it already looks ok in terms of realism. I had to modify it a little bit (by adding this hangar part in the middle for example) to make it look more like Devastator. Note that this is not the final version in any way, I just wanted to share it with you 😃

Imgur

Wow! Looks really good. Was it modeled in Blender, imported and rendered in Element 3D?

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#1314372
Topic
<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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yotsuya said:

liamnotneeson said:

DominicCobb said:

To me what makes characters interesting are there arcs, not just how “fun” they are. TFA and TLJ accomplished this. TROS had cool character ‘moments,’ but it’s just about impossible to track any of the characters stories scene to scene. It’s a mess, which really sucks as a conclusion to their stories (especially when many of them undermine the lessons of the previous films).

I think that this is a result of TLJ. The second act of a trilogy is when most of your character’s development should occur, and Rian wasted it with the already-infamously bad Canto Bight subplot.

I disagree. I think TLJ had a lot of character development. Poe, Finn, and Rey each face a major character flaw and come out the end of the film changed. Poe learns the difference between bravado and leadership. Finn learns what it means to believe in a cause. Rey realizes that she can’t look to others and must rely on herself. All very important character moments and all very crucial to the finale in TROS. The characters in TFA could not do what the characters do in TROS without the changes in TLJ. Everything Johnson did in TLJ, Abrams took and used for TROS. Sure, more was added to Rey’s parents, but only who they were related to. They still were nobodies who don’t even have names. As far as I’m concerned, all the ruckass about TLJ and TROS changing course is nonsense. Everything I got out of TLJ is still valid and necessary to TROS. And I loved the Canto Bight subplot. It added a dimension to the Star Wars galaxy and I think it helped Finn find out who he is.

I’m with you. That’s it.

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#1314204
Topic
<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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snooker said:

Ok, so my thoughts on this film are complicated.

I knew what was going to happen in the movie, I had read the leaks. I saw how horribly it was being reviewed and I started to feel very worried.

I saw it opening night with my family, with whom I have watched every Star Wars opening night with since Force Awakens. We had a very positive experience. I knew that I loved it but I couldn’t rank it just yet. My favorite moment in the movie was when Rey and Poe yelled at each other for about a minute straight, followed by Ben’s shrug at the Knights of Ren.

Days went by and I slowly realized something. The only real reason why I resonated with this movie is because it had the characters from the previous movies in it. Because of Force Awakens and especially Last Jedi, I had grown to love these characters, especially Rey. This movie, in my opinion, completely ran backwards from the wonderful step forward that The Last Jedi had made in the franchise. That movie ended with a quiet, personal battle between a broken man and his master who failed him. This movie ends with a billion ships attacking a thousand Star Destroyers. I mean, Last Jedi spoiled me.

This is the first sequel movie where I know that I will only ever watch fan-edits of it as soon as they become available. I’m sure that someone will be able to fix a majority of my perceived issues with the movie and make it a worthy trilogy-closer. I can only hope that Disney decides to be generous and provide some good deleted scenes.

I’m so disappointed.

If Finn and Poe had had a romantic subplot I would have been slightly less disappointed.

I agree with you. Thinking about FinnPoe… I think it’s a JJ Abrams thing, don’t know if by accident or engineered from the beginning. The FinnPoe relationship is only alive in TFA and TROS through subtext, but not in TLJ.

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#1309355
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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pat man said:

John Doom said:

:\ I thought the OT couldn’t look uglier than on dvd/blu-ray, but Disney somehow succeded in making it look even worse!

Raw special effect, not properly lit:

Paint it green! 😛

Here brightness is so high you can see this special effect’s corners:

Contrast is so bland you can see Luke’s hair and face don’t cast natural shadows under strong and direct sunlight:

Green-headed Leia! 😄

P.S.: I think I’ll stick with Harmy’s versions 😛

Yea They tried to match the color timing of all the saga films by what I’ve heard. If I remember the the original release of the 97SE (what these are sourced from) had contrast issues as well.
This is the first tine since the 97 release that an official release of the OT has had an “almost” correct color timing. Not great but better then the old 2004 master.

Also take in consideration that moonization’s HDR colors aren´t properly tone maped so they don’t look correct “as intended”. Even the Blu-ray footage looks oversaturated with raised black levels in his comparisons.

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#1305741
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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Petrovelly said:

Can you guys make some more comparisons? I’m very curious about the Battle of Yavin, Endor, and Hoth. Also Cloud City.

Yes, I’m curious too. Also, how are the Alderaan and Death Star explosions?
Did they forget to redo any of the subtle 2004/2011 changes? Like the cell block “bars melt”, for example?

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMh7UH0DbCPGxQyEOdmfmYiFnh3lgoBNNLCPnHTQnvyCtXQnScSo8L_vR3x6A9y_Q/photo/AF1QipMOdCBhls9R5ZwHke30Yv4bKe5W2YiRy8r4B_wi?key=aDFfLXE3clp4SldVcndkalc3UjJ4UlU2ZUlDb0JB

How is the paint out of Sebastian Shaw’s eyebrows in ROTJ? Does it look any different?

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#1281984
Topic
SW fonts
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schorman13 said:

Leoj said:

Does anybody knows what font is used on the GOUT DVD R1?

My best guess is “Franklin Gothic Condensed Book” or “Franklin Gothic Compressed Book”.  Leaning more toward Condensed.

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/urw/franklin-gothic/

It looks like “Open Sans”. The oficial Star Wars Complete Saga BD uses this same font for the subtitles, but hi-res. I think it’s the same font, although I can’t be 100% sure.

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Open+Sans

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#764250
Topic
Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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hairy_hen said:

grifter said:

Still a big "meh" for me, don't really feel anything with this trailer or the last one.

It kind of looks like SW but more like "i'm watching a Dark Forces 2 cutscene in HD" SW...

Am i the only one to feel like this?

That was pretty much my reaction.

Parts of it kind of look like Star Wars, and some of it even sounds a bit like Star Wars, but . . . there's just something missing.  The sense that it isn't going to be ridiculously overblown, maybe?

Actually, I got a more genuine sense of SW-ness from those DF2 cutscenes than I did from this.

And seriously, what the hell is going on with Chewie's face?

 Yeah, there is something off about the style and aesthetics of the movie. And Chewie looks younger. Babyface.

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#763308
Topic
Star Wars Digital HD Release .... April 10th
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FigmentJedi said:

As far as people complaining about no more Fox fanfare logo goes, I'd love for the new films to go with a John Williams version of the When You Wish Upon a Star Castle intro as the new alternative. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0SZCrTuhzI

 Sounds great! But, what about this?
https://youtu.be/TQgvoQ9NEqU