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#569685
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Bingowings said:

brash_stryker said:

Anyone else here just as, if not more, excited for the saga trailer as they are for the actual edit? Or is that just me?

Keen as I am for both I'm more keen on seeing a completed Revisited installment than essentially test footage for edits that are Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the line.

I just love the potential for improvement we have with the prequels as there's so much more scope for major story changes. I'm sure you can understand, being the person who started the Radical Redux thread :-)

But at the risk of going off topic I'll shut up. It's just all very exciting!

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The fact that it's clips from all 6 films, to me, means that Ady has been working on at least preliminary test stuff for the prequels. This excites me greatly.

Unless I'm totally wrong and it's just unaltered shots with added captions like "say goodbye to scenes like this" ;-)

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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Also, in a US (internet?) radio interview, Ady stated that the space battle shots were just that. Still images cut out and then moved around in aftereffects! With what he's learnt with ESB:R and his plan to use physical models throughout the saga, I'm pretty sure the "flat" look will be rectified...but that's a looong way off and not for this thread :-)

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AuggieBenDoggie said:

 

brash_stryker said:

 

PROVIDED THE RECIPIENTS OWN THE BLU RAYS!!!!

 

Thats all fine and dandy, but when those recipients make copies to send out, they may or may not ask their recipients if they have the official blu-rays, and so on, and so on .......

Also when the edit makes it way to the torrent sites, who's gonna demand that person downloading if they own the official copies?

 

Anyway, I went to wall-mart today to price more Blu-ray players and I found a few that were down to 70$. Can't beat that at all.

 

People like myself are just making the intentions of faneditors and this website's stance on piracy clear. Jay, Adywan and any other fan editors are taking every precaution that it's done as above board as possible (short of us going out and policing the whole world!), and you're responding by pointing out the obvious - that people will ignore this site's and the project's disclaimers regardless. 

As ben_danger and others have pointed out, considering the current fuss with SOPA, this site and fanedits are in very real danger of being shut down. So why are you going out of your way to underline the fact that people will pirate it? It gives any anti piracy government group extra ammunition as it makes out that the edit will encourage people to download without owning the source material (which they've always done and always will without the influence of this site. We already know!)

Consider me baffled.

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#566698
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The absolute only way for people to get copies is either by downloading it and burning it ourselves or via a PIF (pay it forward) chain. It relies on good faith, but we're a generally an honest and generous bunch here. I'll be happy to participate in the latter after downloading it myself. PROVIDED THE RECIPIENTS OWN THE BLU RAYS!!!!

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There may have been a bit of conjecture involved, but taking into account that for the prequels, absolutely everything was filmed and documented and retained (for behind the scenes content & documentaries etc) and that we know of a few scenes from the PT that were left out but do exist (the lost 20 scene springs to mind) then there must be a lot more that didn't make it.

Every film out there has a ton of content that doesn't make the final cut, and based on the fact that two of the prequels were filmed digitally and they therefore can't use the excuse that it's degraded over time, then we're looking at probably hours of unused footage.

Also, I think you're forgetting that none of the deleted scenes from the PT DVDs (which are numerous) are on the Blu Ray set at all. So I'm probably right on the money.

If you were referring just to ESB, then we've got our wires crossed. I was meaning the deleted scenes in total - because  if this was to be a feature in each revisited release, what's lacking in terms of deleted scenes with one film will affect consistency between the others. And I'm all for consistency ;-)

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timdiggerm said:

brash_stryker said:

timdiggerm said:

Any plans to include the Deleted Scenes, as if this was a full-and-proper-official-release?

To be honest I could take or leave this. In order to download Revisted we're meant to own the Blu Ray set anyway, which would mean we already have a disk with the scenes on them. There's not much Ady can do to 'revisit' these scenes to differentiate his release from the official one as they are of such poor quality.

Right, obviously. It still feels like it'd be nice to have them all in one place - The "definitive" version of the film, the correct bonus features, etc.

I know how you feel. I'm a completist as well - to an obsessive degree. But the way I see it, the deleted scenes in the state in which they were released aren't fit to have the revisited name put to them. We didn't get even a tenth of the deleted scenes that are out there and that we KNOW exist (they'll "discover" a few more for the next re-release, mark my words) and the ones we did get weren't cleaned up or restored.

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timdiggerm said:

Any plans to include the Deleted Scenes, as if this was a full-and-proper-official-release?

To be honest I could take or leave this. In order to download Revisted we're meant to own the Blu Ray set anyway, which would mean we already have a disk with the scenes on them. There's not much Ady can do to 'revisit' these scenes to differentiate his release from the official one as they are of such poor quality.

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#565631
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Adywan said:

 

After a lot of consideration i think it will be best for me to release ESB:R as just 4 releases:

720p high bitrate mkv
PAL DVD-9
NTSC DVD-9
Special featured DVD-5 NTSC only

Now this way i won’t be wasting a lot of time having to do multiple versions and then have the hassle of uploading such a high volume. The mkv can be played either on a computer or through a media player (which are now a lot more common and aren’t expensive). Also if anyone wanted to burn it to a blu-ray then they can just use TSMuxer to convert it to a blu-ray format and this takes no time at all and loses no quality.

The DVD’s will only be DVD-9 because they can easily be shrunk to fit on a DVD-5 using something like DVDShrink if someone wanted that, but with dual layer burners being commonplace now and discs being really cheap then i can’t see why someone would want a DVD-5 nowadays anyway.

Then the special features disc will be NTSC only as it doesn’t really matter about the smaller than PAL resolution and people can download it if they want to watch the features without having to download a 25gb blu-ray disc.

Didn't Ady also announce since then that there'd be a proper Blu Ray disk image as well? (not just an MKV you'd have to burn yourself) I'm almost certain he did. Or did I dream it?

I'd hate to be deprived of a professional looking disk menu when everything else is done to perfection. Look at me, I sound like a spoilt child :-)

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doubleofive said:

http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/ptr-facts/

:-D

I've re-read that so many times since it was posted and it excites me every single time. So many great ideas have been thrown about in threads and I think with the support for this project, many of them have a chance of coming to life.

Sorry for the non-ESB:R drooling.

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#563715
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I think finding a balance between the grey and blue is key and then sticking to that through the whole trilogy. I don't think there's any point making distinctions between Death Star squadron and Executor squadron, etc. though they are neat ideas to explain the difference.

I'm confident they'll end up looking great. Not too blue, not too washed out.

The right amount of blue for me is so it has that 'cold' metal look, not the Kenner/Hasbro toy look.

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#559074
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Aalenfae's PREQUEL TRILOGY (Heavily delayed - computer exploded)
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More 'on hold' than abandoned. I haven't had my mac set back up since a house move so I've been unable to get back into it, but I was already discouraged enough to have felt willing to release it with purely editing changes (and title cards indicating where a visual change that's beyond me would be). I know I'll never be happy with it the way it turns out, but that gives me an opportunity to really go wild with my ideas and intersperse my feasible editing choices with what I wish someone would shoot (written as notes on title cards). Only then can I bring the narrative I envision to life, and you never know, when someone crazy enough comes along with the resources and support to reshoot stuff, they might take my ideas on board :-) Then I will have made a difference.

But enough about me. Any new examples of what you're doing? ;-)

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#559029
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Aalenfae's PREQUEL TRILOGY (Heavily delayed - computer exploded)
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It was the same with my AOTC edit. So much was cut out that it was just too short. And what was left I thought should have been done differently in the original cut - with no way of fixing it without shooting new scenes with new actors. I had lots of promising editing ideas and was praised for the ones I put into practice with youtube videos, but when you start thinking it'll never be as it should be because of the material you started with, it's a little discouraging.

Of course, someone with the skills and ambition will one day reshoot some significant scenes. Maybe even with key characters - I truly believe that a recast of Anakin is the only way the fans' original vision of the prequels can ever become a reality. It only takes one crazy bastard to reshoot new actors, another to do motion controlled filming on his ship miniatures, and then you have something workable to combine with other people's existing changes to what we already have. All of a sudden we'd have something that isn't just an improvement but is practically an entire new film. Maybe I'm being optimistic. I don't know, but seeing your excellent ideas and thinking about all the others I've seen has just got me thinking that reshot scenes are the one thing missing needed to combine them all together into a cohesive whole. That's why I've always thought a 'round table' style edit, with lots of people on board would be interesting, but a nightmare to coordinate and agree on things.

Edits like yours are good as they get the creative juices flowing. Mine is nowhere near as ambitious on a visual level, and I stated from the beginning that it was more a 'proof of concept' than an edit in its own right, but I was trying absolutely everything I could to implement major plot changes, and I believe there was real potential there to convey something dramatically different to what we started with. It just needed that extra something that I don't have at my disposal - new action scenes and at least one new character reshot with dialogue.

Combine clever editing, with thematic changes through visuals (which it seems you excel at), and you already have a solid base. I've seen first hand that ideas from previous edits are borrowed and tacked on to other people's subsequent edits all the time (I've done it) and this is why even the abandoned or "on-hold" edits (like mine) are still useful. Each new edit we see represents the accumulation of many people's great ideas and concepts. In many ways, it's like a collaboration, only in a more organic way, being added to by different people over time. You could call it evolution if you wanted to be pretentious. 

Anyway, this post turned out longer than I planned. :-p It didn't really apply to your project in particular, just fan edits in general and how I see the work that we all do being an invaluable contribution to that final 'definitive' cut where someone has gone the extra mile, along with everyone's previous ideas.