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#615734
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Do these animation films need preservation?
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AntcuFaalb said:


bkev: Color issues aside, is the BatB BD the theatrical release? My wife is concerned about some "added scenes" that popped up in some home video releases, or something...

The added scenes are gone. That much I know. On the DVD set, the theatrical cut accidentally maintained the slight animation changes that were made in order to stay consistent with the events of "Human Again," such as cleaning up the castle in certain places (for example a once-shattered mirror is replaced with a whole one.) I believe the BR fixes all of them but I'm not certain.

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#615706
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Do these animation films need preservation?
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AntcuFaalb said:


_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

4 - Beauty And The Beast (Letterbox - DS)

would came best (as "double feature") with

3 - Beauty And The Beast - Work In Progress (Letterbox - DS)

I know they are both on DVD and BD; what are the difference between them and the laserdisc version?

 

 


Primarily, the colors.

The BD release is closer, but not perfect from what I hear. Also, the DVD is atrocious and has extra scenes.

I believe there's different WIP versions available. I'm not sure if the one on the BD is the same as the one that was released on LD. And, to top it off, on the BD the work-in-progress version is downgraded from an alternate angle to a picture-in-picture feature! I think the DVD that comes with the big set still contains it as an alternate angle feature but that's still a huge disappointment.

Also, it's more than the colors. The LD is the only OAR release of B&TB, the rest are cropped to some degree.

Also why would #5 be letterboxed? Cinderella is in 4:3 is it not? That could also use a transfer if only for color reference. While Disney seems to have gotten better about this, that particular movie has a HUGELY anachronistic color pallet and it's painful to look at. Despite the fact that it's new to BR I think they used their DVD master done by Lowry years ago and it shows. Missing detail ahoy!

I look forward to any work you put out, regardless of if you choose to clean it up!

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#615103
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The 1997 OT Special Edition Trilogy Preservation Standards Thread (* unfinished *)
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I was referring to OmegaMattman's re-upload of Molly's theatrical version of Beauty and the Beast. It's a laserdisc rip and the only OAR version available. Plus, there's a few special edition add-ons that still managed to make it into the "theatrical" cut on each release. Minor changes, but still there.

To be fair though that's less strange than msycamore's video-only 97SE being removed.

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#614876
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The 1997 OT Special Edition Trilogy Preservation Standards Thread (* unfinished *)
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msycamore said:



Teeceezy said:

Hey guys does anyone know what happened to msycamore's m2v? I was checking my seeds when I noticed the m2v said 'Failure: Torrent not registered with this tracker'. I went back and checked MySpleen and the m2v is gone. Anybody know why?


Yeah, I noticed it was removed. Don't know the reason behind it, maybe they deleted it because it was a video only file. But they seem to approve audio only uploads so I honestly don't know...

That's the second unusual removal I've heard of recently from myspleen. I wonder if they're getting stricter with uploads.

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#614510
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Indy Blu-rays announced
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Has anyone pulled out some LD or VHS rips of pre-THX Raiders to compare with? I see that all the time with Star Wars but I haven't seen that here. While obviously that would be no perfect reference, it would be interesting to see the different looks of home video Raiders - and prove one way or the other if that restoration is as jarring as people said at first.

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#614258
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The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
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A possibly mangled summary of the Sleeping Beauty debacle: the restoration team went directly back to the cels for reference as to how the film should look. However, what's been said is that the cels were overly bright and colorful with the fact in mind that they would be dulled down and subdued when transferred to moving film/release prints/etc. I think the blu has a bit of a neon look going to it, but it didn't turn out as bad as say Cinderella.

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#614076
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Victory Celebration
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Yeah. They're there, but far - far - less pronounced. I think they're similarly quiet on the 2004 SE sound mix as well but I don't have it on hand so I can't check.

Also, just a comment on this song versus Yub Nub. I think I prefer the piece in of itself, but the "teddy bear parade" ending was much more fun than seeing the entire galaxy celebrate. Mainly because I somehow doubt the death of the Emperor is the complete end of the Empire, and it makes more sense to have a subdued celebration among comrades. Pretty sure there was more work to do after that for the Rebels.

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#613980
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Random Thoughts
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Ugh. earhtlink and vonage just do NOT mix. I'm home for the weekend and even trying to watch a single youtube video crashes the DSL line! :<

edit: in fact I'm pretty sure it's just Earthlink fucking up, because it used to work with my wireless router and now it doesn't. I'd love to know how to fix this but tech support from both sides is completely and utterly useless.