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They’re playing Leia’s theme live conducted by John Williams
They’re playing Leia’s theme live conducted by John Williams
Kenobi voice acting and animation was amazing, but I think the 20-minute format spoiled the ending
To be honest both have the same amount of distracting fan service and poor writing. At this stage R1 bothers me more because retconning the exhaust port from a flaw to a feature is so lazy.
The R1 novelization shows that the exhaust port was rushed to approval, as a quick fix for the reactor overheating, because the project was behind schedule.
The exhaust port wasn’t retconned, but rather the reactor. Erso didn’t tell them to shoot a torpedo through the exhaust port, he told them to find a way to blow the reactor. They still needed to study the plans to find the way to the reactor. If the exhaust port was a feature, as Mocata alleges, they wouldn’t have need to steal the plans, because erso could have just told them about it.
Disney Canon: The exhaust port was one of three solutions Galen proposed to the reactor problem, so he was responsible for it, but still didn’t tell anyone. (Source: R1 novel)
To be honest both have the same amount of distracting fan service and poor writing. At this stage R1 bothers me more because retconning the exhaust port from a flaw to a feature is so lazy.
The R1 novelization shows that the exhaust port was rushed to approval, as a quick fix for the reactor overheating, because the project was behind schedule.
Has anyone officially commented on whether it’s plural or not? It’s pretty open as of now and shut but official comments are way better.
Yes the Offical Star Wars show hosts joked on January 25th, aka 2 days after the reveal, at all the people debating whether or not it was plural, but I’d say they were definitely heavily hinting the plurality of the term.
I think Disney should have a go at doing the prequels to RO and show the demise of Anakin (again). It needs re-doing.
Is that a fantasy?
Not sure if off-topic but look at this test footage for Guy Henry:
Back to the topic of Giacchino’s score, I found this bridge at 3:30 in “Tales of a Jedi Knight/Learn About The Force” from the Star Wars '77 soundtrack, it’s exactly the Jyn Erso theme from RO, take a listen:
https://youtu.be/soNidwqk1U4?t=3m30s
Personally, I think that section sucks as a main theme, it’s too simplistic, but it does sound like it was actually a callback to the original score for ANH.
Edit: It seems someone in the YouTube comments beat me to it
That’s pretty cool. I’ve seen people point out that Jyn’s theme is based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because there are a few direct quotations of it throughout the RO score, and of course SW before it (especially during Burning Homestead). I guess I never noticed it but that bit^ is definitely based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because it’s when Luke is rejecting his fate/destiny (which is of course flipped in the aforementioned Burning Homestead scene).
Yeah they mention both of these in the podcast linked awhile back. It’s very cool stuff, and amazing to think Giacchino was able to make it in four weeks. I’d never have been able to come up with little homages and references like that in a year.
Oh interesting. I was worried it’d just be some dudes talking about which music was “memorable” and “hummable” or something. Might have to check it out.
As for Giacchino, he said in an interview something about his brother I think encouraged him to take the job because he’s been writing it in his head for the last 40 years. So in some ways I feel like the homages might have been the easy part. Still, an amazing feat.
It’s really worth a listen. I don’t often post links like that so I make sure they’re actually worthwhile first hahaha.
I was just impressed that he made the music feel like ANH without directly copying it. It just slid right into the universe perfectly (in my opinion). I’ve said it before, but certain parts of the soundtrack sound like stuff that Williams did for ANH that got cut.
I’m listening to the Podcast now, this guy knows his stuff, looks like a good series, thanks. 😃
Back to the topic of Giacchino’s score, I found this bridge at 3:30 in “Tales of a Jedi Knight/Learn About The Force” from the Star Wars '77 soundtrack, it’s exactly the Jyn Erso theme from RO, take a listen:
https://youtu.be/soNidwqk1U4?t=3m30s
Personally, I think that section sucks as a main theme, it’s too simplistic, but it does sound like it was actually a callback to the original score for ANH.
Edit: It seems someone in the YouTube comments beat me to it
I believe all these issues about the hallway scene are all to do with context.
People say why didn’t Vader do all these brutish or powerful things with Luke? Simple, respect, of course: He wanted Luke to feel challenged, he didn’t want to humiliate his son, he wanted to tempt him.
Why didn’t Vader cut down everyone on Hoth? They had already lost, he was there to pick up the pieces.
We do not know the original context of the Tantive IV in Star Wars. We do know it was being chased by a Star Destroyer, with RO now concrete, we have a context. Leia claiming to know nothing has always been obvious stalling. If they were in no trouble why were they having a shootout with the Empire and not cooperating, now it’s just even more obvious now we know they came direct from the battle.
Vader looks really good at those angles. Better than I remember him from the movie.
Vader is made to be shot from below his shoulders. One thing Edwards got wrong.
Edwards is a very ‘shoot from the shoulders’ kind of guy, I think the Vader scenes may be reshoots with the new guy
Hi, I found these screenshots not in the movie of Vader, that I believe are not in any trailer also:
They were in this magazine type guide to the characters that I found in a WHSmith shop but never bought it.
The second, of Vader alone was featured by Entertainment weekly, but I am unsure of the former.
Just seen this tonight for the first time. I have to say I loved the pacing, and Edwards was very good at adding tension to the action and raising the stakes. The Scarif orbital shield, Vader’s castle (I know not new) and Jeddah were all ideas pulled from the original concepts for TFA (from the art-book,) which I got super excited about the more I saw, maybe we’ll see more ideas from that book in VIII.
The space battle was thrilling, however I found it a bit odd and OP that the hammerhead could trash two star destroyers just by pushing them together.
I hated the stupid throwaway cameos (R2, 3PO, Dr Evazan), it felt worse for breaking immersion than even the CGI added to Mos Eisley in ANH.
CG Actors - The intro shot of Tarkin turning around was a dead giveaway for CG, but I think his other scenes looked convincing, I think it just depended what lighting he was in.
Leia however just looked robotic and the lingering shot was weird, maybe it was just the single word said.
The Darth Vader texas chainsaw massacre was absolutely stunning and terrifying. However the shot of him watching the Tantive IV jump to hyperspace destroys the continuity - how could Leia pretend not to be part of the rebellion when her ship had just undocked and flew out of a battle with her crew knowing that Vader witnessed them??
I do think the knowledge that the scenes and dialogue from the trailers was removed has jaded me, particularly as I went to Star Wars Celebration and the anecdote Edwards gave about recording with James Earl Jones saying ‘power’ didn’t really happen, well at least the word was said by Vader, but not with any emphasis so I really hope the original cut was trash, because I really enjoyed what we got in the theatre.
Wow thats amazingly good
ebay.
I buy Vertabim from Amazon, theyve not let me down and great value for new discs
That was a pretty solid theory
The yellow squares look brown.
Hows this for you?
also just some other grabs:
When I get time I’ll experiment with other scenes too,
I like it, but how faithful is it to the original intended look?
Hi There, taking a look at your comment, I thought I’d try and find some original frame shot, or a set photo, this one can be found around, and is the basis that Dr Dre used in his bluray regrade:
looking at that, I’ve made tweaks to my version to match the this still if it is accurate. When I started this project, I always thought the imperial uniforms biased more towards cyan than their natural green, previously I tried to make them look like prop photographs but this just lead to interesting artifacts like tarkins hair being yellow. Anyway ive done a grade based on the still above:
I guess by everyones comments together we can get a general consensus on what looks good not just in terms of good contrast and saturation, but accuracy in the colors.
newer version with magenta tones reduced:
The hardest shot to do is the Tarkin close up at the end of the scene. Im not happy with it yet so not uploading
I’m just exporting a version with less magenta in the skin tones and midtones, and I used masking to fix some of where the brightness changes in the wall lights near the end
Hi all,
I’m a super great fan of the Silver Screen Edition, and the more natural colors it brings, some scenes however are washed out or have a purple tint, I can see that some have been replaced in the 1.6 version, but i startedthis long before it came out, with inspiration from Dr Dre’s post about regrading the Bluray, and in particular the Death Star Scene with Admiral Motti, Vader and Tarkin.
Please let me know what you think about the skin tones, I went for what looks more natural in real life, but I know that people like a more warmer tone.
In this scene I had to do a separate correction for each individual shot, due to the different biases in the film, and ive brought it to a consistent look and feel, which was tricky as the image quality falls near the end, and the walls had varying shades of purple and green throughout that needed balancing
VIMEO:
https://vimeo.com/175760363
password: oot
Screengrabs:
the video link is above, let me know what you think
I was at the panel and saw the special sneak peak, security guards were everywhere for when that came on and I only had my huge iPad still with battery.
I managed to download that Reel 5 technicolour preview when it was on the Spleen before it caused all the drama, I’ve noticed that its replaced reel 5 in this version, the picture looks far sharper and the noise is far smaller, I’m just wondering as the colours and image quality have changed quite dramatically in other parts of this release, what else is not the original Spanish LPP?
What is this glitch? I cant get the framecount but its after the line “your sad devotion to that ancient religion hasnt helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes…” when the camera cuts,
taken from the 1.6 proper bluray release, its been there since 1.0
These two are a quick reaction to your lastest from that scene, in SSE, those two shots are very dark and I really had to push the limit of the shadow detail to get anywhere near as bright an image as you got from the bluray:
again those were a quick reaction comparison, orginally I had done a much darker CC, as I was just correcting colour bias