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Post: #250795
Topic: What do you think of the <strong>Prequel Trilogy</strong>? a general discussion thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/250795/action/topic#250795
Time: 11-Oct-2006 6:40 PM

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
The way it seems to me is the classic trilogy was pretty good on it's own, but the SE has imrpoved it with it's changes.

I guess the way I see the 2004 SE is it's better than the O-OT

You do realise this is OriginalTrilogy.com don't you?

Your post was written for another forum, right?

Post: #246541
Topic: ghosting in the dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246541/action/topic#246541
Time: 20-Sep-2006 6:49 PM

Originally posted by: Raul2106
I think the new dvds look ok.

Sure they do!

Of course, if that's the case, not much real use for a new digitally remastered anamorphic dvd next year then.

Post: #246427
Topic: ghosting in the dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246427/action/topic#246427
Time: 20-Sep-2006 3:29 PM

The four eyed sandtrooper could prove to be a challenge!

Post: #245963
Topic: First Impressions of the OOT ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245963/action/topic#245963
Time: 19-Sep-2006 4:01 PM

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
"Quality" is subjective right?

The quality of these OUT DVDs is not as good as it could have been. That is
NOT "subjective" opinion, that is FACT!

- A clean print is better than a dirty print.
- Anamorphic is better than non-anamorphic.
- Uncompressed sound is better than compressed sound.
- A transfer is better without DVNR, and other inherited LD artifacts than with them.
- An image looks better without excessive film grain than with it.

These are facts and not open to subjectivity, and you would have a very hard time indeed convincing anyone in the industry otherwise!

Oh, and Lucas also agrees! He did it for the SE!

Post: #245871
Topic: First Impressions of the OOT ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245871/action/topic#245871
Time: 19-Sep-2006 10:11 AM

Originally posted by: gltaylor74It doesn't me. About two minutes in I forget about watching for flaws and watch the films.

I am genuinely pleased that you are able to watch the films without being distracted by the visual stepping of motion present in these DVDs.

Personally however, I unfortunately do find the 'motion ghosting' distracting, and don't really think that it acceptable by modern DVD standards.

Post: #245860
Topic: First Impressions of the OOT ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245860/action/topic#245860
Time: 19-Sep-2006 7:50 AM

Originally posted by: bbbb
I like the new DVD release of the OOT.

Thank you George Lucas!

Are you happy that there is 'motion ghosting' in this release?

That may have been ok as a cheap effect in a '70's rock music video,
but doesn't belong in a 2006 DVD movie release IMO.

Post: #245407
Topic: What Special Edition changes (if any) did people like?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245407/action/topic#245407
Time: 18-Sep-2006 10:38 AM

Totally agree there! Jabba would have sent his henchmen to do his 'dirty work' for him.

Post: #245278
Topic: What is GOUT?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245278/action/topic#245278
Time: 17-Sep-2006 7:16 PM

Originally posted by: Scruffy
I think GOUT came from the preservation board. Other acceptable but non-official acronyms include

Anyone else got any ideas? I'm all out.

I think you pretty much got it covered appart from CLOUT

Craptastic Laserdisc Overtly Unloved Transfer

Post: #245274
Topic: How Lucas can satisfy the fans.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245274/action/topic#245274
Time: 17-Sep-2006 7:04 PM

Originally posted by: 88keyzDid we put conditions on our request, not that I recall.

We really shouldn't have to, should we?

There is a standard of quality that is expected these days when films are released on the DVD format, to which even the most obscure titles manage to attain.

George Lucas failed to meet that standard by quite a margin with this release, and I don't quite see how we should be overly grateful for paying premium prices for a non-premium, 'no effort' product.

Lucas must really hate these so called 'unfinished' works, as he has shown these movies absolutely no respect whatsoever with this release.

We have been thrown scraps from the table in a hope that it would keep us quiet for a while, that's all!

This dvd was not the act of a 'cheerful giver'!

Post: #245193
Topic: Do you REALLY think there will be remastered versions of the OOT or whatever? I don't.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245193/action/topic#245193
Time: 17-Sep-2006 3:01 PM

Originally posted by: marioxb
The only reason I like the original originals is because, well no reason. I don't prefer them by any means

What you are missing here is that many many people DO prefer the original movies over the SE. Is it right that fans
are not able to enjoy the version of these movies they prefer, at quality that is acceptable by TODAY's standards?

The real kicker though, is that it would be so easy for Lucas to resolve, but he adamantly refuses to do so!

Look, the originals are now on DVD.

Yes they are now on DVD, but not using a transfer that the format demands today, or even demanded years ago!

Post: #245185
Topic: How Lucas can satisfy the fans.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245185/action/topic#245185
Time: 17-Sep-2006 2:30 PM

You wouldn't believe how simple it is!

All it requires is brand new transfer taken from original sources using current technology, original aspect ratio presented anamorphic, and colours that remain untampered with and true to the original release of the movie.

Heck, I dont even mind if there is a little bit of film dust and scratches as long as the definition is there, and we don't get the 'ghosting' and 'peculiar' grain that appears on this latest offering.

Oh and a choice of the original sound mixes, uncompressed, would be nice too!

Not too much to ask is it?

Post: #245116
Topic: What Special Edition changes (if any) did people like?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245116/action/topic#245116
Time: 17-Sep-2006 9:13 AM

Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
I don't think anyone could be suprised to see what Jabba looks like at this point. Maybe in 87, but Jabba is a culture icon now. Even people who don't watch these all the time know what he looks like. So seeing him in Episode 1 and 4 don't seem to kill anything.

I really dislike the added Jabba scene in the SE, and not only for the obvious and poorly executed CGI either.

In my opinion Han would have managed to get off Tatooine WAY before Jabba even got the chance to catch up with him.

In fact, I don't think Han would be careless enough to leave any trails to allow Jabba to discover where the Falcon was docked.
Han was better than that!

Just another thing to mess up Han's character, and is right up there with the 'Greedo shoots' scene for me!

Post: #244957
Topic: Ideas for the inevitable Super-Mega-Special-Ultimate 2007 Boxset
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244957/action/topic#244957
Time: 16-Sep-2006 4:33 PM

Originally posted by: Cable-X1
I don't care if they put a cute, purple Twi'lek female in there who's willing to f**k my ever loving brains out 10 times a day...if it doesn't have a remastered OOT in anamorphic....I ain't buyin' the filthy motherf**ker.....

Post: #244948
Topic: The Official Release VS. EditDroid
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244948/action/topic#244948
Time: 16-Sep-2006 4:22 PM

Originally posted by: Cable-X1
The official release is sharper and more clear than EditDroid, but there is a TON of grain.

I am also confused as to where this pronounced grain has come from. It just doesn't seem to be there on any other transfers derived from the SAME master?

It is especially noticeable to me in ESB, and is really bad in the Hoth scenes!

Post: #244943
Topic: The Official Release VS. EditDroid
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244943/action/topic#244943
Time: 16-Sep-2006 4:17 PM

Tatooine also appears to have lost some 'atmostphere glow' to each edge of the planet on the GOUT for some reason?

Post: #244940
Topic: POLL: So Who Bought Them & Who Didn't? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244940/action/topic#244940
Time: 16-Sep-2006 4:07 PM

Originally posted by: CO
Sure I bought this release, cause it was the O-OT in any better quality than I have, but what has happened is now if every future release, (2007 Saga Boxset, HD-DVD Saga Boxset, 3-D movies in the theater, etc.) If they don't contain the O-OT versions fully remastered, he aint gettin a dime for me.

Totally with you on this one!

Post: #244901
Topic: POLL: So Who Bought Them & Who Didn't? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244901/action/topic#244901
Time: 16-Sep-2006 12:11 PM

I went ahead and purchased, as it is better than any copy of the original versions that I have previously owned, and I just can't watch the SE.

I do feel as if I am being slightly punished by uncle George with a substandard offering though, simply for prefering the originals over his cgi 'enhanced' creations.

Yes, the originals are now finally on dvd, but it's very bittersweet moment indeed. :/

Still, I'm looking forward to the XO even more now.

Post: #244392
Topic: So, a simple question....
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244392/action/topic#244392
Time: 14-Sep-2006 6:58 PM

Originally posted by: eros
after looking at those caps of the NTSC version I think the PAL is probably the best way to go, although it's zoomed in very slightly compared to the NTSC it looks neater without the black borders at the sides.

The "black borders at the sides" will be present on both NTSC and PAL dvd if played on a widescreen TV.

The dvd will not be able to determine the size/width of your TV due to the 'non-anamorphic' issue, so you will
have to manually 'tell' the television to scale the image to the width of the screen to omit the black side bar effect.

Post: #244375
Topic: So, a simple question....
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244375/action/topic#244375
Time: 14-Sep-2006 6:28 PM

So, the PAL system would still need to upscale the NTSC dvd, and in turn introduce it's own interpolation, for playback at 720x576 .

Thanks for the insight THX!

Post: #244353
Topic: So, a simple question....
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244353/action/topic#244353
Time: 14-Sep-2006 5:56 PM

Originally posted by: THX
Yes indeed.

That's what I was afraid of.

I guess at least with the NTSC version you are getting only what was on the master, and not any 'guess work' image information used to bump up the resolution for PAL?

Post: #244312
Topic: So, a simple question....
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244312/action/topic#244312
Time: 14-Sep-2006 5:00 PM

Can anybody confirm if there would be any Interpolation within a PAL image that has been upscaled from a NTSC master, ie. the use of approximated pixels, that are not on the NTSC master, to achieve PAL resolution?

Post: #243886
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243886/action/topic#243886
Time: 13-Sep-2006 9:18 PM

Originally posted by: R2D2
Am I right then, that I get a better anamorphic picture when I take the NTSC GOUT DVD as source for resizing?

It's like:
NTSC Master Tape 720x480 --> Scaling to PAL 720x576 --> Scaling to Anamorphic PAL.
NTSC Master Tape 720x480 --> Scaling to Anamorphic PAL.

If the PAL version is indeed upscaled from the NTSC Master I would of thought it would be better to go direct from the NTSC dvd.
There would be interpolation through the enlargement process to achieve the PAL res height of 576.

Post: #243841
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243841/action/topic#243841
Time: 13-Sep-2006 7:29 PM

Originally posted by: Fuser
OK - I just scoured the official site as I knew I'd read it somewhere - I quote:
"This limited time release will be the only DVD release of the unaltered theatrical films."

So there you have it. The unaltered release wont be on the box-set.

Does make you wonder how on earth the LFL marketing team is going to make a box set appeal to fans of the OUT?

With the GOUT dvd 'trump' card already played, what else is there to really go on?

No Jedi mind trick is gonna make me cough up the cash for more digital trickery, that's for sure!

Post: #243721
Topic: 3D ?!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243721/action/topic#243721
Time: 13-Sep-2006 2:48 PM

Originally posted by: hanakin
TheForce.net
How cool would that be...

Not very, IMO.

Post: #243674
Topic: First Impressions of the OOT ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243674/action/topic#243674
Time: 13-Sep-2006 12:58 PM