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#229768
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No explanation necessary (but we got one anyway)
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I was using the term to highlight what, for me, is one of the most sickening introductions into the SW saga of blatant hijacking of Christian symbolism. I agree that it is totally inappropriate. But Luca$h put it in there, not me. I used the term to mean 'conception without sexual intercourse'. If that's not how you understand the term then fair enough. I am not suggesting that concepts of sin should be applied when considering the SW universe. I am suggesting that Luca$h was stupid enough to think that it would be really moving to have Anakin be conceived in a way guaranteed to remind most viewers of the conception of Jesus Christ. He, presumably, did this to try to tie the 'midichlorian' bollocks in with the 'Anakin as saviour of the universe' bollocks that he's tried to shoehorn in to the saga...

I was not intending to be reckless with the term and did not want to give offence to any Christian members, okay?
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#229761
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229761/action/topic#229761
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
But, like was stated earlier, I believe it might be best to have the clone wars in progress as the stories begin.


Absolutely. I was elaborating a possible backstory for the OOT, some considered previously, some worked out as I went. As I've said in another thread, I don't think anybody apart from Luca$h has a problem with the fact that the films are showing episodes from a BIG story. The opening crawls explain broadly where we're at and the rest you can pick up, or draw your own conclusions from. So I think having episode 1 open with Obi-Wan commanding forces fighting the Empire in a battle and discovering Anakin through his amazing Jedi reflexes as a fighter pilot would be a good one. After all, the purpose of the SW saga is not, in fact, to tell the story of the galaxy but the stories of Anakin and his friends and family. It is through them that we see what's happening to the galaxy and their stories often comment upon, reflect or directly influence the larger events around them.
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#229395
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229395/action/topic#229395
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Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit
Ben and Anakin arrive and find that Anakin’s mother has been killed by a crack whore or some shit.


Awesome!

[This is also long - sorry!]

I would have preferred the Jedi order to have been less associated with the senate. I think the analogy with Eastern monks should have been extended, so that you have Jedi temples in remote places across the galaxy. I would have liked Yoda to have always lived alone on Dagobah and Jedi get sent there to train with him. A bit like Pai-Mei in 'Kill Bill'! People would come to the Jedi with their problems and the Jedi would only intervene with force (and The Force! ) when all other methods had failed. I think the Jedi should not get involved in political struggles. I think Jedi would advise political leaders but not side with any of them. I don't like the idea of them being some kind of police force attached to the state. For me, that diminishes their status considerably.

I think that the Jedi would only get involved when they found out that the Sith were trying to take over the leadership of the senate. This could then logically lead to the senate being turned against the Jedi. Perhaps some systems would side with the senate and some with the Jedi. This would give rise to the Clone Wars. The division of the senate would allow for the systems that stay to become the Empire. The Empire have a clone army which has been assembled in secret, plus a vast fleet of Star Destroyers. This unexpected show of force overwhelms the opposition.

Sith (rule of two be damned!) could be dispatched, as officials of the empire, to find Jedi temples and kill anyone they found there. I'm sure I read on someone's post that the place on Dagobah, described by Yoda as being "strong with the Dark Side of the Force", was created by a duel with a powerful Sith (something in the EU, I think). Maybe the Sith decided to cut their losses and just wipe out every other Jedi and wait for Yoda to die? The Clone Wars would rage on between systems loyal to the Jedi and the Empire, controlled by the Sith. The war devestates both sides and leaves the Empire on top, but virtually all of the Jedi and Sith have been wiped out.

It would be through the characters of Obi-Wan, Anakin and Padme (would probably change the name, if I had my way) that we would see this epic struggle. It would fit rather well to have Anakin be a pilot in the forces under, by now, General Kenobi's command. This would be best to be the Alderaan system, as Leia states that Obi-Wan served her (adoptive) father during the Clone Wars. I reckon having Anakin found by Obi-Wan when he's about the same age as Luke in ANH is a good one, because it would allow us to see him (over the course of the SW saga) try to train Anakin and then realise that he couldn't train Jedi like Yoda and not make the same mistake again with Luke, especially since the stakes are even higher after the Clone Wars have been lost.

I like the idea of the love trianle between the three of them, but I don't like the idea of that leading Anakin to the Dark Side. I don't think it's EPIC enough!! I think that Padme should fall for Anakin and Obi-Wan should be the jealous one ("It's because of my beard, isn't it?!"). It would make sense if Obi-Wan struggled against his feelings for Padme, if we follow through the idea about the Jedi being like monks. I think it is a much more powerful story if Anakin falls in love with his growing power and that he follows that road at the cost of his relationships with Padme and Obi-Wan.

How about Sith reporting back to Sidious that they have encountered a young Jedi who is very strong with the Force and fights (with a lightsabre that Obi-Wan constructs for him) with more passion than discipline. Wouldn't that interest him somewhat? Sidious could then engineer a meeting between him and Anakin and duel with him. Sidious could then work on Anakin, as he and Vader do on Luke in ROTJ and ESB respectively, with the result that Anakin does fall to the Dark Side to gain the power that Sidious displays in the duel and is offering to pass on to him. After this Anakin would become Sith, take the name Darth Vader, help the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights and would eventually come face-to-face with Obi-Wan. Cue scene where Anakin tries to win Obi-Wan over to his side but Obi-Wan resists. Anakin becomes enraged, they duel, Anakin comes close to killing Obi-Wan a couple of times and, eventually, Obi-Wan, in self-defence, stops holding back, bests Anakin and pushes him into a lake of lava, taking the lightsabre that he had made for Anakin away with him.

Obi-Wan comes to Padme to tell her what has happened. At first she is furious with Obi-Wan and accuses him of killing Anakin because of jealousy but, eventually, comes to accept that he had to do what he did. Now, I would like to see, over the course of this story, that Padme and Anakin live together until he goes off with Sidious. A few months after he goes she finds out that she's pregnant. After the "death" of Anakin she returns home. Shortly after that, we hear of Imperial forces, led by Lord Darth Vader, scourging all systems of all remaining Jedi and their relatives and known supporters. Obi-Wan comes to her just before Vader does. She has had twins, a boy and a girl. Obi-Wan withholds from her that Vader is Anakin. He tells her that Vader will kill her and her children if he finds them. He convinces her of Vader's ability to sense the children and persuades her that, if they were separated, it would make them harder to find. He tells her that Anakin had a brother and he'll take one of the children to him. He tells her to take the other child with her to Alderaan and seek refuge with the Organas and, if anyone asks, the Organas should say that the baby is theirs. Padme will then have to make the agonising decision of which child to take with her and which to send with Obi-Wan. Well, we know the outcome of that one.

So, Obi-Wan seeks out the Lars family and, eventually, tracks them down on Tatooine. He gives up Luke into the care of Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru and then puts some distance between himself and the homestead. Padme and Leia settle down with the Organas on Alderaan. And, for a few years, that's it. Then, I think, either Vader or some other Imperial officials find out who Padme is. Leia is protected by the pretence that she is the child of the Organas. Padme refuses to cooperate and Leia sees her mother get killed and that sets her on her course to become leader of the Rebellion.

Whaddaya think, y'all?
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#229015
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229015/action/topic#229015
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Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit
- Anakin can’t seem to best Ben so he seeks out the dark side in order to win the love of Padme.
- Padme succumbs to Anakin’s advances and he knocks her up, but he doesn’t know it.
- The duel with Ben & Anakin causes a Star Destroyer or something to destroy the Alderan Royal Palace killing either the King or the Queen.


I have to say, these three had not occurred to me. I'm not sure I like the idea of a fall to the Dark Side being inspired by getting the attention of a girl. They could fight over her, sure, I'm all for that! But what on earth would Ben be doing that Anakin would need the Dark Side to beat? Impress her with his Sith Cutlery skills? Oh, hang on...

I'm sure the Jedi Academy would have a Sex Ed. module ("Erect it will become...").

And I don't see the point of the last one at all. I'm afraid it seems a bit overblown to me. A bit silly.

I can relate to most of the others, though.
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#229002
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No explanation necessary (but we got one anyway)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229002/action/topic#229002
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I also dislike the directions that Luca$h took the character of Anakin Skywalker. Having him be a mythical figure in Jedi lore and, particularly, using the tag 'The One' - I know I won't be the only one that was thinking of 'The Matrix'. I particularly hate the Immaculate Conception idea. The character of Anakin Skywalker would have been much more interesting without any of that shit. And the Force was much more interesting when it was something that permeated the entire universe and that you could learn to use through training, rather than the result of some kind of symbiotic protozoan.

Now I think about it, I reckon TPM is closer to a combination of 'Harry Potter' and 'The Matrix' than the OOT. It may just be me on this one, but I don't like many stories about legendary children with powers beyond their peers. I'm more interested in the quiet kid at the back who has to try really hard to do anything. That's why Roald Dahl writes stories that I still enjoy. On the face of it, there's nothing special about Charlie Bucket or Matilda or Sophie in 'The BFG'. But, as the stories unfold, you find that they are very special characters.

Luke Skywalker didn't exhibit strange powers. Sure, he was known to be a decent pilot amongst his friends but nobody in ANH is running around saying "He's The One!! He's The One!!!" and he's a much more engaging character because of that.
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#228983
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The Emperor & line change in ESB SE 1997
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228983/action/topic#228983
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I'm sure I'm not alone among OOT fans in that I accepted the fact that there were events which took place in between the episodes. There was enough information in the episodes to understand what might have happened, though, as you have shown, Gaffer Tape. Luca$h treats his audiences like idiots now. To say he treats us like children would be an insult to children...
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#228766
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first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228766/action/topic#228766
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I just hope that all non-Newscorp press will cover the release properly and highlight the unacceptable difference in the presentations of the squeaky-clean SEs and the early-90s videos of the OOT.

I don't hold out much hope for honesty from Murdoch's "News" Corporation at the best of times, but definitely not where an associated company is concerned. This Sansweet fucker is a taste of the coverage the September Discs will get from them.

As far as the claim that the September Discs will be better than the bootlegs goes, I'm sure the better bootleggers take the time to avoid the sort of picture problems people saw at ComicCon.
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#228733
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The Return of Six Degrees of Star Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228733/action/topic#228733
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Oh, FFS...

OK, OTTOMH:

Anna Paquin (The Piano, 1993) Harvey Keitel (Red Dragon, 2002) Ralph Feinnes (Schindler's List, 1993) Liam Neeson - Qui-Gon Jinn

God, I even got the film years right! How sad am I?

Hugh Jackman (oooh, what a challenge...)

EDIT:

Damn you, Darth Enzo!!

OK, Ruth Buzzi (Freaky Friday, 1976) Jodie Foster (Candleshoe, 1977) Leo McKern (Ladyhawke, 1985) Rutger Hauer (Blade Runner, 1982) Harrison Ford - Han Solo

Because all of the above movies are awesome...

And I still want to see Hugh Jackman next, OK?
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#228035
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$36 pre-order (AR) for all 3 titles...anyone found it cheaper??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228035/action/topic#228035
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Luca$h would go on a stadium tour where he pisses all over the SEs if he thought he could make enough money that way.

Luca$hFilm consistently milks the Star Wars movies for all they are worth and they are not above lying to create buying frenzies. Saying that they will not release the OOT again is a lie. They know there is a market for it and they are led by the market.

Luca$h is not an artist slaving over his 'vision', he is a businessman who has one really popular product and will repackage and rerelease it as often as is possible in order for it to generate the maximum amount of profit it will support.

Just look at his proposed rerelease of the PT and SEs in 3D! Are we supposed to think that that was his 'original vision' in 1976?! Bollocks! It's just yet another repackaging, designed to generate more money from the same product. Will it make the movies better? No. Will the 3D imagery distract people from the poor storytelling? Well, since Luca$h seems to have decided to target his franchise at pre-teens, then I'm afraid it probably will.

The Disney reference is spot on. It infuriates me the way they keep withdrawing their DVDs, particularly classics like 'The Jungle Book', and then rereleasing them a few months or years down the line. Luca$hFilm clearly want a piece of that action. If they keep withdrawing the films and then rereleasing them it should mean that the sales never peak. There will always be demand.

BASTARDS!!!
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#227271
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$36 pre-order (AR) for all 3 titles...anyone found it cheaper??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227271/action/topic#227271
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The success of releases like the 'Alien Quadrilogy' box set and the anticipation surrounding the 'Blade Runner Ultimate Edition' will not have gone unnoticed at Luca$hFilm.

They know there's a market for special releases of DVDs containing the original cuts and revised cuts. Prestige packages sell well and with a higher price tag. They will want a piece of that.

This will not be the last official Luca$hFilm release of the OOT on SD DVD.
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#227043
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$36 pre-order (AR) for all 3 titles...anyone found it cheaper??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227043/action/topic#227043
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I do have an issue with paying Luca$hFilm for a DVD produced from a transfer, digital or otherwise, that's more than 10 years old. Luca$hFilm have the technology and the resources to produce new transfers using up-to-date techniques.

And there's not even a question over whether these DVDs will sell. They know they will. They wouldn't be releasing them at all otherwise.

What with Luca$hFilm's track record and the upcoming 30th Anniversary, I do not believe that they will stick to the "last time ever" plan. I will not be blackmailed by their ridiculous plans to withdraw these editions on the 31st December either. Maybe these editions will be out for the "last time ever" but they know that they can milk the OOT just as much as they have the SEs (2 releases in as many years?!!).

I have not purchased any SW DVDs so far, SE or PT. I see no reason to change my mind yet. I have 4:3 letterbox copies of the OOT on VHS. They still work. I still have a VHS player. Luca$hFilm can fuck off if they think I'm going to buy these releases just because they're DVDs.

I think I have a right to expect more from a company that has prided itself since 1977 on having the most cutting-edge technology.