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#246315
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Lucasfilm to sell Physical Effects Unit
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246315/action/topic#246315
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
They used more models in any one of the prequel films than they used in the entire classic trilogy combined, and they will still be the top choice for ILM, so in that regards not a whole lot will change really.
Is that true?!
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Yet it all looked absolutely real.

I think it looked like it was: a bunch of actors in costumes in front of a green wall.

If what you're saying is true, then Luca$h used models, costumes and sets, just like in the OOT, with the added ingredient of CG effects, that he didn't have when making the OOT, and spent just as long over each film as he did with the OOT.

Yet it all looked absolutely...

fake!!
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#246262
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246262/action/topic#246262
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Exactly. I think the point I was trying to make was that none of the vehicles in the PT had a real relationship with their owners. Not like the Rebel fighters or the MF or the TIEs. Its not so much the dirt as the feeling that they have been used and adjusted over time, reflecting the use that their owners have put them to. There was no evidence of this in the PT, I don't think. Therefore the vehicles that we see make much less impact upon us.
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#245947
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245947/action/topic#245947
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That's very true. None of the vehicles really had the personality of the ones in the OOT. But then Lucas made the bizarre decision to make everything in the PT clean and new, going against the look that set Star Wars apart from other Sci-Fi movies that came before. I think the lack of personality goes hand in hand with that decision. The craft that we fell in love with felt like they weren't from a 1950s "visions of a utopian future", they felt like they were functional and had a relationship with their owners. Particularly with the Millennium Falcon, which looked like Han Solo had added to it countless times, making it faster and tougher. The two of them had grown together.
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#245867
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245867/action/topic#245867
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Indeed. Inspired by the fact that the PT was clearly not planned very well, leading to multiple errors with regard to the continued story as told in the OOT (or even the SEs!).

I started out thinking of writing my own PT. Then I got to thinking that, if I was going to re-write the PT, I might as well do my own novelisations of the OOT films. And then I got to thinking that, since I'm re-writing the first two trilogies, I could also write the third of the trilogy of trilogies.

Commander Courage has also had this plan, with a friend, and started work. We have been exchanging ideas. I have also been very interested to get comments from other ot.com members on ideas that have occurred to me and to hear how they have imagined the saga themselves. Some ideas I have, like keeping the droids in throughout, have not been popular with everyone. Others have been.

At the moment, I'm in the process of thrashing out the basic skeleton for the saga. Once that's done, it will be possible to select the nine episodes from the saga to actually write as novels. I will still call the middle three A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi. The PT episodes will get new titles.

Commander Courage, I'm really glad you posted about the possibility of Luke's sister being hidden until the third trilogy. Until I read that, I hadn't even thought of anything so simple and yet effective to allow for the "separation at birth" to stay and to ditch the "Luke & Leia are related." I don't know why I couldn't think of that, but I couldn't...

D'OH!
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#245428
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The Return of Six Degrees of Star Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245428/action/topic#245428
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All Six Degrees:

Paul Walker (The Fast And The Furious, 2001) Michelle Rodriguez (Resident Evil, 2002) Milla Jovovich (The Fifth Element, 1997) Charlie Creed-Miles (Nil By Mouth, 1997) Ray Winstone (The Proposition, 2005) John Hurt (The Ghoul, 1975) Peter Cushing- Governor Tarkin

Quickest I found:

Paul Walker (The Fast And The Furious, 2001) Vin Diesel (xXx, 2002) Samuel L Jackson - Mace Windu

RIP Glenn Ford!
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#245403
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Waiting for Episode VII during the lean years (1984-1998)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245403/action/topic#245403
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Well...

Welcome to the boards!

My appetite for further episodes has also been taken away by the PT. Not satisfied. Just taken away.

If another creative team took the job on for Luca$hFilm and all Luca$h got to do was provide the basic story, I think I may become interested. Either that, or maybe we should all start trying to get George and Marcia back together...
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#245387
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245387/action/topic#245387
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I'm leaning back over towards Luke & Leia as twins. As I'm planning the way the plot will go over the six episodes I just can't shake the feeling that there is a great potency in forcing Padme to choose between the two twins when they go into hiding. Combine that with being able to re-write ANH, ESB and ROTJ to accommodate the fact that they're related from the beginning and it should work well. I just like that story.
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#245379
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What Special Edition changes (if any) did people like?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245379/action/topic#245379
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Yes, the CG Jabba is not executed at all well. But the character of Jabba that appeared in that deleted scene from SW was a different character to the Jabba in ROTJ anyway.

The Jabba of ROTJ was not the sort of creature that would turn up in the heat and bustle of Mos Eisley to collar a smuggler when he had already sent out a bunch of hired guns to deliver his message. The Jabba of ROTJ was so fat that I doubt he went anywhere under his own steam anyway. He certainly wouldn't have put up with anyone being so disrespectful of him as Solo is in that scene. The dialogue is off as well, I think. The Jabba in that scene doesn't speak in the same way as the Jabba in ROTJ.

The scene should have been left out, I think.
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#245369
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Do you REALLY think there will be remastered versions of the OOT or whatever? I don't.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245369/action/topic#245369
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My main beef with Luca$hFilm over the releasing of the OOT is to do with history. I am a keen (although amateur) film historian. Knowing and understanding how films have co-existed and how influence has flowed between film makers is something that fascinates me. Star Wars was around at the same time as Saturday Night Fever, Zefferelli's Jesus Of Nazareth and Disney's The Rescuers. In the UK, When The Boat Comes In was in its third series on TV.

Luca$hFilm have not only withheld Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi from DVD release but they have also prevented all public screenings in cinemas. Luca$h has the right to do that and I couldn't dispute that. But am I prepared to accept that we can never again see the version of each film that people saw in 1977, 1980 and 1983? No, I'm not.

The DVDs that have just been released are very poor quality. I don't think that a company like Luca$hFilm has any excuse for that. With 4:3 displays being phased out and high definition in the ascendancy, these releases will very soon give a depressing viewing expeience to their owners, while other movies from the same time enjoy a loving transfer to DVD and then HD DVD and Blu-ray discs.

A mere two years after Star Wars came Alien. Director Ridley Scott has recently made a Director's Cut of this movie. His definitive version, if you will. But he has made no attempt to suppress the original cut. Both were given excellent treatment in recent individual and box-set releases. Blade Runner (1982) is set to receive the same respect on the Ultimate Edition release due soon. This will include the original theatrical cut, the 1992 "Director's" Cut (which Ridley Scott did not, actually, participate in) and a new cut that Scott has made. Again, his definitive version.

In recent years, Peter Jackson has not suppressed the original theatrical cuts of the LOTR movies, despite having made other versions.

I will not be satisfied until Luca$hFilm allows audiences to see all versions of their films in cinemas and at home on a level playing-field with other films of their times. Their current policies and releases are not allowing this and, therefore, are preventing audiences from fully appreciating the films' positions in and impact on film history.
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#245365
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Greedo subtitles outside the 16:9 frame
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245365/action/topic#245365
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Originally posted by: Mielr
There are DVD players on the market that have aspect ratio controls that will allow all of the sub-titles to be seen when you zoom-in on a 16:9 screen.


I doubt that will salvage this situation, since this is a problem deriving straight from the source material and the fact that Luca$hFilm couldn't be arsed to adapt the material for present-day viewing technology. God, I'm glad I haven't bought these bastards...

People who have 4:3 TVs - I'm glad this won't affect you straight away. But when your existing TV packs in you'll be hard pressed to find ANY 4:3 TVs outside second hand dealerships. This impacts directly on the argument for purchasing this release that this MAY be the last time the OOT is ever released and it preserves it - it just can't be allowed!! I'm not going to buy such poor copies of such popular films, the rights to which are owned by someone who can easily afford to release them properly.

I firmly believe that the OOT will be release again in better ways. Luca$hFilm KNOW that this product will sell. They wouldn't release it at all if they didn't. But, even if Luca$hFilm DON'T plan to release it again at the moment, I'm still not going to waste my money on such a substandard product. I've abstained from purchasing any SW DVDs (PT, SE, OOT) for this long and I see no reason to give in now. Until Luca$hFilm release a product I can honestly say that I would like to own then my money will be going elsewhere.
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#245119
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Greedo subtitles outside the 16:9 frame
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245119/action/topic#245119
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That's something I hadn't thought of, actually. Thanks for pointing that out.

It does, indeed, point out the true inadequacy of this release. Coming, as it does, in 2006, with 4:3 TVs disappearing from stores in favour of 16:9 flat panels and rear-projector screens (I envy you your projector and screen - if only I could afford it! ).

I think that many people who have said that this release is adequate for them because thay don't have a big screen to fill have overlooked problems like the one you describe.

The September Discs are a pile of wank.
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#244892
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244892/action/topic#244892
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Just to update - I'm thrashing out my basic skeleton for my PT at present. I'm thinking through the whole sequence of events before deciding which parts should become episodes 1-3. I've also decided that, as part of this project, I'll write my own novelisation of SW '77 and re-write episodes 5 & 6. I'll be looking to keep everything from ESB & ROTJ but revise the connections between the characters and avoid the worst of the merchandise tie-ins.
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#243161
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The SW Novel - Alan Dean Foster
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243161/action/topic#243161
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Originally posted by: Number20
Its been a while since I've read this book, but, IIRC, it seems to imply as well that the emperor isn't really the villian, and definiately not a sith. He was explained that he is shut away from the people and the bureaucracy/military actually is the real power.


That is indeed correct, Number20. Palpatine is mentioned in the Prologue of the novel as an ambitious senator who is elected President of the Republic ("aided and abetted by restless, power-hungry individuals within the government, and the massive organs of commerce), declares himself Emperor and then shuts himself away from the populace.

"Soon he was controlled by the very assistants and boot-lickers he had appointed to high office, and the cries of the people for justice did not reach his ears."
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#243154
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Secret CIA prisons
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243154/action/topic#243154
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Excuse me, but nothing in theredbaron's post claimed that he was regarded as innocent. The point is that he, like all the other detainees, are being held outside of any law. He has not been charged. He has not been given a trial. The Australians are saying: if you won't we will. Why are the US dragging their heels?
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#242728
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Secret CIA prisons
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242728/action/topic#242728
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Okay, I've clicked on the link and I'm going to note down the things that I view as indicating that this site is run by fundamentalists to promote their views:

On the left - a link to order a free newsletter from 'The Voice Of The Martyrs' - "show your support for persecuted Christians around the world" - another link further down to 'Luxlight Associates', which seems to be a Zionist publications ditributor.

On the right - a list of "highlights", including: "'fair and balanced' network gives $10K to 'gays'"; "National Cathedral used for 'propaganda'"; "Muslim activist gets congressional award"; "Christian beaten for drinking water"; "an evolutionist challenges me" and the most obvious one: "Taking the Name in vain - by Greg Laurie"

My personal favourite is an ad on the home page: "The life and religion of Mohammed - the ugly truth about the founder of the world's most violent religion"

Why not try WND Shop for all your propaganda needs...