adywan

Originally posted by: dumb_kid
Andywan do you have photoshop? I could post stuff with all the layers intact so you'd have better control. I might not have time tonight to do this but definitely over the weekend.
Yes i have photoshop CS2. Theres no rush, i can work on other shots for now.

I've decided to change the title of me version to REVISITED instead of REVAMPED. I just think that the new title has a better feel to it. I'm also in the process of setting up a myspace site for this edit which will have more screenshots and clips. its gonna take a while but once its finished i'll let you all know. I'm even thinking about doing a regular podcast sort of thing with regular updates and maybe even some "making of.." clips, but thats just in the idea stage at the moment.

Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Adywan,

Do you have a Paypal account? I'd be interested in contributing some money toward a new hard drive. And if anyone else can or would like to help out, please do.

I'd hate to see this project delayed over something as simple as hard drive space.


--ID

Originally posted by: darthbeej
Think the idea is great however some changes I would make...........

1) Slow the movement of the planet / camera / death star / star destroyer down a bit

- it appears to race by quite quickly and shows a bit too much "sliding" of objects rather than giving the impression of static solid objects in space - (best way I can describe it)

Due to the elements used to create this sequence a static shot was impossible and also while i wanted the theme of the Death Star was constructed above a planet to mirror ROTJ a static shot would have been too similar. The shots used have been slowed down from their original speed about as much as would be possible without affecting the footage too bad. I always felt that the the first time we get to see Death Star needed a bigger reveal than it had. After all, in Empire, there is a large reveal for the Superstardestroyer, so why not for the Death Star. After all its supposed to be their ultimate weapon, but all we got had was a quick shot of a single stardestroyer heading towards it. Its one thing that always bugged me after seeing Empire.



This sequence is set at the opening of the conference scene. the officers would have been summoned to the Death Star for this meeting. In my way of thinking for this scene they would have arrived by stardestroyer so it would be logical that there would be more stardestroyers by the death star for this scene. Plus, as infoDroid pointed out, it was not yet opertional so there would have had to have been a fleet presence to guard the Death Star. Once the meeting was over they would have returned to their sectors and only a minimum stardestroyer presence would have been required the closer the Death Star was to being operational. Also when the Death Star leaves for Alderaan then there wouldn't have been the need for any stardestroyers as it was about to be fully operational. The Empires arrogance, as noted in the conference room scene, was its downfall. They believed that the station was the ultimate power in the universe and that nothing could touch it so the Stardestroyers would have been ordered to stay behind and therefore when the battle of Yavin occurs there would have been no stardestoyers.

3) Change the colour of the planet - blue implies Alderaan which we dont see for another 30 mins (roughly!)

- Could the planet be Coruscant in the background rather than hovering over a blue unidentified planet in orbit, would this give the destoyers a reason to be there.

Originally posted by: Sluggo
I liked the blue planet as well and hadn't really thought that it was Alderaan. I think the suggestions are mostly helpful, but anyone who really wants to state their case for a different planet, maybe they could provide a hi-res example to 'audition' for the part.

That's a great idea Sluggo i have to admit i'm plugging for the blue planet after trying loads of other options, but if someone comes up with a better idea then i'm open to ideas.

Oh, many thanks again for the pics, Sluggo.
Originally posted by: trickbaxter
The only thing I can see that looks a little off, is in the second shot of the DS, the starfield and the DS seem to be moving too much. Other than that, I love it.

Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
Adywan,

What about the rocky moon from Star Trek II that becomes the Genesis planet?

Originally posted by: Rebel11_38

...According to Imperial sources, the first Death Star took too long to construct, exceeding Palpatine's every deadline. It was built in orbit around the prison world Despayre. Labor for the construction was taken at will from the prison below. When the first Death Star was completed, Tarkin ordered the superlaser tested on the planet Despayre itself. Needless to say, this initial test exceeded even Tarkin's wildest dreams.

This is one reason that i am sticking to what is in the "movie" universe and not any EU or other sources. According to the conference room scene Tarkin states that the station is not yet operation and also Tarkin states that they would test the Death Stars destructive powers on Alderaan, so that backstory in the Unofficial Encyclopedia completely contradicts what we know about the Death Star from ANH.

I don't really want to use a known planet for the first Death Star shots. My idea is that it would be in a hidden system where the rebels would not find it. If it was orbiting one of the planets from the PT then it would stand out as a planet that we already know.

I'm not sure that having the planet blue would necessarily confuse people into thinking its Alderaan while watching the complete movie. After all if you look at Alderaan & Yavin 4 they look very similar but we know that they are not the same world. And also Tarkin orders them to set a course for Alderaan so it is determined that it isn't Alderaan. I've altered the blue colour & darkened it slighly but altering it any more towards a different tint just doesn't look right to my eyes. It needs to be in the blue spectrum due to the neutral colours due to the orbiting ships & station. Green is the only other colour that doesn't look too bad but with both Alderaan & Yavin 4 being Green planets then blue is the only colour (apart from an ice planet but thats already been covered by Hoth.lol) that is left. Or is it....... maybe not......


I do like that idea, i'd just need to find a really good plate that i could use.
Originally posted by: dumb_kid
If you'd like, I can see what I can come up with... there was guy who had a website with a lot of really good planet maps.. his name was 3d-Duckboy/diabloblanco17 but it seems as if his site has gone away but I downloaded the maps many moons ago. Let me know if you are interested.

Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Good point about the Geonosians building it, Marvolo. I'd forgotten about that.

The blue color looks fantastic, Adywan. It really does. But, the problem is that it's too much like Alderaan. It might be confusing.

Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated

New DS approach: HOLY COW! Just amazing! This should have been here a long time ago! I dig the planet, I dig the scale (yeah, maybe check on those SD), I dig the music!
Of course, a few "nitpicks": you might consider reducing the number of ties in that first shot of the DS. I was blown away by the entire shot, but I didn't know where to look at first...I think the DS should be the focus.
I've reduced the size of the stardestroyers and takes out a couple of ties on the first shot of the death star

No i haven't trimed any frames
Also, if this is one of your last clips to show all of us, obviously, I'm sad.
BUT don't be afraid to bounce ideas off of us...hopefully our nitpicking has helped and not hendered your progress!

Originally posted by: tellan
well one graphics card meltdown and a hard drive detonation puts me on the back foot for a bit. new card and drive coming but then data recovery's going to take a bit of time.

oh well.

Originally posted by: Commander Courage

A couple of suggestion, if I may:

-There was the idea (I believe it was ErikStormtrooper's) in the Starkiller Ranch thread that the 2nd Death Star was in construction over Mustafar. I that case I disagreed, as in its condition above Endor I didn't think it would be going anywhere. That said, if you're going to use a planet in the background of the DS1's into, why not Mustafar? The only drawback there I could see would be a lack of available "background plates" for the lava planet.
Mustafar was my original thought but i decided to go with a planet that would echo the look of the Death Star in ROTJ

-While the "Imperial March" is an essential piece to be included, what do you think about retaining ANH's "Imperial Theme" througout the saga as the "Death Star Theme"? This way you could keep the ANH theme in the films, and mix up the music of the Empire a bit, as you wouldn't want to overplay the March.

Originally posted by: Weezer12
Adywan, what music did you use at the end of the Hut scene?

Its a mix of a few different tracks. These are the tracks used, in order:

The Imperial March
Aboard the Executor
The Emperor arrives
Jedi War Council

The planet is just a "filler". I added the planet to mirror the Death Star 2 in ROTJ. That is under construction orbiting a moon so i thought that, because it isn't yet fully operational until it reaches Alderaan, that it would be in keeping with that theme. i haven't added a shadow because i'm not sure that it would actually cast one given the direction of the light source, plus it doesn't in ROTJ so i thought i'd keep it the same.
Originally posted by: GoldStone9
Just wondering, do we have a "release date" like should one expect the release date before January?

Originally posted by: Sluggo
Ah, now I remember why I like this site. The creativity just blows me away. I was curious about the scaling of the Star Destroyers in the last shot as they move behind the death star. They seem like they need to be smaller. I'd have to break out my Star Wars Chronicles for the size comparison chart.

Originally posted by: Darth Richard
Who is the progress coming?

Originally posted by: INv8r_ZIM
Hey, Adywan, for some inspiration on the colour correction, have a peek (if you haven't yet) at the thread about automatically using the GOUT to do colour correction. There's a fantastic plugin for AviSynth called ColorLike which will match histograms between two video sources, and has been shown to work very very well between the LD footage and the 2004 SEs.

Yeh, i've been following that thread closely. unfortunately i wouldn't know where to start with Avisynth so i'm stuck with doing it all manually.


This has me confused because i've never said anything about correcting the way they are tracking. I'm just cleaning up and enhancing the effects for the displays, and nothing else.

Also, are you sure it's necessary to have a Super Star Destroyer present at the battle of Yavin? First, I always assumed Vader had a customized TIE fighter with hyperdrive so seeing him fly off into space alone never bothered me. Second, I always thought Super Star Destroyers were built in the timefram between ANH and ESB, none existed before then. Third, when the Death Star was destroyed a Star Destroyer could just launch wave after wave of TIE fighters and TIE bombers to wipeout the Rebel Base. The Rebels lost alot of ships and men, there's no way they would be able to put up a defense. I apologize if it sounds like I'm nit picking. I just don't think either of these changes were needed.

Originally posted by: tellan
adywan, depending on what you're using, when I was creating the avi's from the m2v files of the dvd for each shot of the film, i ran a filter called whitebalance which you use in virtualdub and set it to 235, 235, 235 for colour values. it does a good baseline job of getting a natural white which you can then use as a baseline reference to correct in vegas etc.

Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
Adywan,

I don't think you've mentioned this:

Any plan to correct Luke's problem with his armor coming off his shoulder?

Originally posted by: Sluggo
Always happy to help a fan.

ADYWAN, have I asked you about a split screen version once you have finalized your edit. It would be great to see both versions side by side.

Originally posted by: cbaka
Enhanced effect shot of the stardestroyer as it wipes to the driods on Tatooine : what exactely ??
Only the stardestroyer remains from the original. The starfield & tatooine are new composites.
Originally posted by: cbaka
as you've said this isn't exactly what the finished movie will look..anyway this is a great work adywan..more updates, more updates