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ZkinandBonez

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#1011874
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

It firing on Scarif would be pretty weird. But then again that’s the sort of crazy thing that the Empire might do.

I thought when they destroy Alderaan in SW that it was the first time the superlaser was used.

Well, the RO trailer does show the DS firing on Jedha. However the super laser is most likely not fully operational at this point, hence it doesn’t blow up the entire planet and instead just causes a lot of destruction. I guess they did this in RO so that the DS can still be a big threat to the main characters without undermining ANH. Alderaan was simply the first test of the “fully operational” DS and its planet destroying capabilities. In RO it seem to only be capable of blowing up a city-sized area.

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#1011864
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Well, it could be that we only see the DS over Jedha. Since it’s already in ANH there’s no need for it to appear throughout the entire movie, especially since Scarif is where they steal the plans.
I guess it could show up at the very end though, but it sees weird that the DS would be needed at Scarif. It firing on Scarif would be pretty weird. But then again that’s the sort of crazy thing that the Empire might do.

I have a feeling that the plot will revolve around three missions; sabotaging some Kyber crystal mining on Jedha (or at least getting some info). The DS shows up to stop them and cover it’s tracks. Then they go to try to save Galen from Eadu. Perhaps they get some info from him there. And finally with this info they go to steal the plans on Scarif. That’s my guess anyway.

As for the early marketing teaser, well, that could simply be marketing. They would have had good reason to avoid spoilers at that time. I also think it was made even before they started shooting, so it could have been based on some early ideas. Also the teaser did show a jungle, and Scarif is in all the trailers shown has having many oceans/lakes with small jungle areas as opposed to the thick jungle shown in the teaser.

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#1011830
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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MalàStrana said:

ZkinandBonez said:

It has been suggested that these rings might be Star Destroyer docking stations.
As far as adding things we’ve not seen before this at least makes a lot of sense, compared to adding new fighters.

I’m still curious about what that thing hovering in the middle is supposed to be?

It looks like a planet shield (like the one we can see in Star Trek Beyond).

edit: I guess the x-wings destroy it, then the commando led by Erso can land on the planet, get the plans, leave, etc.

Turns out they were in fact shield gates;

From Entertainment Weekly:

What you’re looking at is the Shield Gate, and the world below is Scarif, a tropical planet that is one of the Empire’s key military bases. Think of it as a galactic Los Alamos, the top-secret desert town where scientists and engineers built the first nuclear bomb during World War II.

Scarif is a gigantic version of that — a remote weapons development facility that is so precious to the Emperor that the entire planet is covered by an impenetrable force field.

“You can see the blue sheen surrounding the entire planet,” Rogue One co-producer John Swartz says. “The shield gate is the security. As Imperial ships and cargo comes through, it punches a hole in the shield so they can pass. The gate officer gives clearances as they give out their call signs.”

Scarif is a key part of what the filmmakers call “the Imperial security complex,” he added, making it the home base of Ben Mendelsohn’s Director Orson Krennic, head of the Empire’s special weapons division.

“It’s part of their military industrial complex. It’s not necessarily where the Death Star was constructed, but a lot of military research goes on there,” Swartz says. “That’s why Krennic spends time there. It’s the site of research, structural engineering, munitions and manufacturing, all rolled into one facility.”

Source

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#1011665
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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“MON CALAMARI ALIEN BASED ON WINSTON CHURCHILL”

I kind of like the idea of a Churchill-esque Mon Calamari general. He’s probably only going to have a few lines, but it could be interesting, or at least amusing.
I’m also curious as to how they managed to make aliens out of “Bela Lugosi, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ernest Borgnine, Lee Van Cleef, and Peter Lorre”.

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#1008121
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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MalàStrana said:

It looks like a planet shield (like the one we can see in Star Trek Beyond).

That’s an interesting idea. Maybe RO’s space battle will be to destroy or somehow open these “gates” to allow the Rogue One team (pluss other troops I’d imagine) to land on the Scariff.

It would make sense to have a shield around Scariff if it’s where they’re constructing the DS, or at least something vital to the DS.

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#1008024
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Well, it has been confirmed that Jedha is a source of Kyber crystals (e.g. lightaber crystals) and that Galen Erso (Jyn’s father) is vital to finishing the DS super laser. Since the film seems to revolve around Jedha and making the DS laser cannon work it seems that Galen is some kind of expert on Kyber crystals. If so it makes sense that he’d have some lying around, and that he and Jyn’s mother would be aware of their connection the the Force and Jedi.

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#1007734
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NeverarGreat said:

I’m confused about that last photo. It’s obviously hyperspace, but it looks like it’s being projected and then filmed. I guess this is to more accurately capture the light effects on the subject, which presumably is behind that plastic barrier. Interesting in any case.

It’s the same effect as shown here.

They seem to have borrowed some tricks from Interstellar, in which they projected the star field, planets, etc. outside the “spaceship” rather than use green-screen.

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#1004363
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The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
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ATMachine said:

Also, Captain Tarpals has a Gungastache because he is a military-man archetype and military men traditionally have moustaches.

Sure, that explains Lucas’ reasoning. However I’m still surprised that Wookieepedia doesn’t have an elaborate in-universe explanation for it.
(I guess even the EU writers didn’t really give that much of a damn about Gungans.)

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#1004289
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The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
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ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

I highly doubt Lucas had anything to do about these different Gungan “races”. Pretty sure that was all in the EU.

Of course George had something to do with it. He approved every design in the movie! The EU didn’t make and then approve the character designs.

I was referring to there being two Gungan races as an excuse for the different appearances. Of course Lucas approved of their appearances in the movie. What’s been bugging me is that Lucas approved of three variations of the design, yet the EU only explained two of them, despite their tendency to add an overly complex explanation and backstory to everything.

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#1004276
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The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
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ZkinandBonez said:

I highly doubt Lucas had anything to do about these different Gungan “races”. Pretty sure that was all in the EU. Wookieepedia as per usual is pretty unclear about when this explanation became canon.

Also since TPM isn’t exactly the most popular SW film I think a lot of people forget the little details and therefore assume that Boss Nass is just fat. Like I just did until I actually bothered to look it up.


However, speaking of lazy.

This is some pretty half-assed CGI. It also just looks like they re-used the Jar Jar model multiple times.

(Btw, this image looks a lot better when it’s this small. Link to larger image.

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#1004263
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The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
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Darth Id said:

ZkinandBonez said:

…Boss Nass…really didn’t need some elaborate exuse, while Tarpals…does need it.

Methinks yer gettin’ a leetle carried away…

Well, if you’re going to waste time explaining why fictional aliens are different from one another you might as well do a thorough job of it.

I’m actually kind of surprised to see that Wookieepedia doesn’t have some elaborate explanation for something.

(And as I posted above, I now see why Boss Nass “needed” the explanation.)

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#1004260
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The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
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Tyrphanax said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Tyrphanax said:

The EU had an explanation for this (of course) wherein there are two different types of Gungan, one being the Jar Jar kind and the other being the Boss Nass kind.

But why does Boss Nass need and explanation? He’s just fatter than the other Gungans. Tarpals on the other hand actually has a unique feature.

Because that’s how the old EU (slightly less so the new EU) worked, everything had to have a detailed exacting explanation even if they had to retcon or shoehorn it in. Usually they were dumb.

I’m not questioning that the EU had explanations for everything, I’m well aware of that, I just find it to be odd, even by the standards of the old EU to explain Boss Nass, which really didn’t need some elaborate exuse, while Tarpals, who does need it, doesn’t.

EDIT: Now that I’ve actually looked up Gungans on Wookieepedia I see why Boss Nass would be considered a different type of Gungan as his eyes are completely different from the rest.
I still think it’s weird that Tarpals’ tendrils mustache is never mentioned (at least not that I can find).