ZkinandBonez

"STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE" Animotion Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib_4A2CG2Ag&list=PLYn2a0e2FVIKni_wHXR5CJYBnnnYH7mIB&index=17&t - from the
Dmitry Grozov YouTube channel (2 mins long).

Basically a trailer for ANH in the style of a cel-shaded 80’s anime film. Also, and I’m not sure where I read or heard this, so take it with a grain of salt, but I think the voices is taken from the Japanese dub of the film.

Well, I’d say most people have gotten over the PT (choosing to simply ignore it) and eventually people will get over the ST as well.

Also I personally wouldn’t take the overall “vibe” on the internet too seriously. The people who stand out the most are the ones complaining and ranting, so it doesn’t represent the public opinion too well IMO. Plus, it depends on where you look. The “vibe” I’ve been getting generally varies from casual enjoyment too casual indifference, and the “angriest” simply being frustrated and/or disappointed or just straight up choosing to not see TROS in the first place.

NFBisms said:

It’s the conduit through which a lot of Legends stuff is somewhat canonized, basically. Things like Delta Squad or Quinlan Vos were in the show as references to the larger EU at the time. Without The Clone Wars remaining canon, certain things and characters would only be Legends now. It’s the middle of a Venn Diagram.

I kind of find it ironic given how TCW used to get flack for ignoring the EU to do its own thing. Now it’s the only canon media keeping a lot of that EU a part of the main lore.

Although I’m a big fan of the old EU I do actually prefer TCW as a new canon series, especially now that we have Rebels and season 7 (Legends TCW will always be unfinished and it was a rough ft to begin with), but I’m still fascinated by the fact that they haven’t bothered to create any new canon introductions to Grevious and Ventress. Middle of a venn-diagram as you put it is a pretty good way to describe the show overall, and it does seem pretty fitting as the last Legends entry and the first new canon entry as it was the last SW-thing that Lucas worked on.

yotsuya said:

ZkinandBonez said:

yotsuya said:

ZkinandBonez said:

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.

I really don’t see any indication that TCW was ever linked to the EU/Legends. It has always been canon. The earlier 2003 mini series even fits (Anakin becoming a Jedi and getting his face scar and growing his hair out). When they announced that the EU was being cut and would be Legends and not Canon, I never for a moment thought that included anything animated. It’s canon status was never in dispute as far as I’m concerned. And what I heard officially backs that up. The 2003 series might be iffy, but the 2008 movie and series is not.

I’m not really sure what you’re saying here; everything SW related made pre-2014 qualifies as Legends. When TCW was made was simply “canon” just like everything else, except Disney decided to keep it as part of the new canon so it now exists in this weird double continuity. Even though Lucas specifically never really cared that much for canonicity and anything he made could prioritize and even overwrite other ideas, everything made was still “canon”, including the Tartakovsky CW series. There are even TCW related spin-off material that is now officially Legends, and the show even had plans to include Darth Revan and have an episode featuring the Yuuzhan Vong.

I’m not saying that TCW’s canonicity is in dispute, just that it has become an official part of two separate continuities, just like ep. 1-6 has. Though I suppose there’s no real “official” canon for Legends as all pre-2014 EU material is officially just non-canon. SW continuity isn’t as well maintained as f.ex. the various DC comics continuities, so Legends is kind of hard to define nowadays.

I’m saying that when they moved the EU to Legends that Clone Wars was not ever part of the EU and was always canon and was not included in that. Everything Dave Filoni has done has remained Canon under Disney. The EU is the Expanded Universe of books and Comics and is now Legends. The Clone Wars material that was in books and comics moved to Legends, but the series was never moved to Legends. The only reason they cancelled season 6 is that it was airing on Cartoon Network. It had nothing to do with it being kept in canon status. George was always pretty clear about that and the fact that they proceeded with Rebels which continued Filoni’s ideas made it clear that Clone Wars was canon.

I get what your saying, and yes you’re technically correct. I probably shouldn’t have used “EU” and “canon” so interchangeably.

Yes, the EU generally refers to books, comics and games, though many used the term to describe all non-movie material, but the current slew of animated series and future live-action shows have probably changed that. Regardless, “Canon” still applies to everything SW unless it is immediately labelled as non-canon, like f.ex. the old Infinities comics. When TCW was made it was canon, and when they ditched the old canon, comics, books and most of the cartoons, they only kept ep. 1-6 and TCW as their new starting point. So the “official” Legends canon includes ep. 1-6 (and obviously none of the newer movies), CW, TCW, Droids, Ewoks, and all the old books, comics, etc. This is what I meant by TCW being in a weird spot as it ties in with Legends material, but it also ties in with new canon material, so it and the Lucas movies are in this weird double-continuity space.

As for season 7, it’s only a new canon season, it even has new canon references added to it, I just think its funny that one of the latest new canon entries is based on something that was originally going to (by default, if not direct creative intent) be part of the old canon.

NeverarGreat said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I’m almost astonished by how apathetic I’ve become to Star Wars in the past couple months. There’s no hate left, no love. Just big, gray indifference.

That’s everyone after TROS.

It is? The only thing I personally feel indifferent about now is the ST (and a pretty decent chunk of the new EU). Other than that it’s pretty much “business as usual”.

https://comicbook.com/starwars/2020/02/20/jon-favreau-invites-star-wars-legend-to-work-on-the-mandalorian-season-2/

So Phil Tippet has expressed interest in The Mandalorian. It’s just a twitter conversation between him and Favreau so far, but it’d be fun if something actually came out of it.

I suppose Tippet could make another holochess effect like he did for TFA. Other tham that I’m not really sure what else he’d could de on a modern show like this.

NFBisms said:

ZkinandBonez said:

NFBisms said:

I wish they were finishing Crystal Crisis instead, to be honest.

They might make it into a comic or a novel like they did with some of the Maul episodes and the conclusion to Ventress’ arc. I think I read somewhere that Lucasfilm still treats these stories as canon, so it would be strange if they didn’t do anything with them at all in the future. Wasn’t there also a Boba Fett vs Cad Bane episode that’s still unfinished?

Well Crystal Crisis was just as completed as Bad Batch was - in animatics form - all those years ago. Fully voiced, foley’d, and storyboarded. The other incomplete arcs never got that far, which is why they were adapted into other media. If they were going to finish off either CC or BB, I would have preferred CC, that’s all I was saying. Adapting it into a book or comic would be a downgrade from its current form.

Bad Batch is fun, but that’s about it. Meanwhile, there’s good character stuff in Crystal Crisis between Anakin and Obi-Wan that directly works off of season 5 and plays into Revenge of the Sith, and probably the final Ahsoka episodes. More than clone trooper A-Team.

Right, I see what you mean. I was just saying that we might at least get something in the future so that the arc doesn’t go completely to waste. I really would have liked to see them do the Ventress and Quinlan Vos arc, but I’m glad that we at least got a novel from it (incidentally one of the few new EU books I’ve really enjoyed).

This silly thing is way funnier than it has any right to be.

The Empire Strikes Back - Luke Falls Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCgRfqY8dzw - from the afteritakeashower YouTube channel (3 mins long).

I already posted HelloGreedo’s ESB 1980 reviews video but I forgot that he also made one for ANH.

12 Original Star Wars Reviews from 1977
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AkIfCCNHyI&list=LLQV0RDpfstGSUF1GzQqLzCw&index=121&t - from the HelloGreedo YouTube channel (8 mins long)

The blurb;
“Star Wars Reviews from 1977 are really interesting to read. Try to imagine yourself in a time when Star Wars was just beginning to pop into existence. The excitement! The newness of it all! The awe and inspiration! These 12 original Star Wars reviews do a great job painting a picture of the time, before the craze began.”

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

I honestly had never in guessed that they’d used this technology for interiors, I assumed it was only for shots like the one with Mando and the child with the sunset in the background mentioned in the video…

Yeah same here. It makes sense though…I would assume it is great to have available for pickups as well!

Yeah, and although I hope people don’t become too dependent on this technology in the future, I can definitely see the benefit of a “10 hour sunset”, not to mention that they’ll never/rarely have to add fake light interaction between actors/props and fake environments something which has plagued CG-filled films (the PT being a solid example of this), or even pre-CG VFX-filled films for that matter.

NFBisms said:

I wish they were finishing Crystal Crisis instead, to be honest.

They might make it into a comic or a novel like they did with some of the Maul episodes and the conclusion to Ventress’ arc. I think I read somewhere that Lucasfilm still treats these stories as canon, so it would be strange if they didn’t do anything with them at all in the future. Wasn’t there also a Boba Fett vs Cad Bane episode that’s still unfinished?

yotsuya said:

ZkinandBonez said:

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.

I really don’t see any indication that TCW was ever linked to the EU/Legends. It has always been canon. The earlier 2003 mini series even fits (Anakin becoming a Jedi and getting his face scar and growing his hair out). When they announced that the EU was being cut and would be Legends and not Canon, I never for a moment thought that included anything animated. It’s canon status was never in dispute as far as I’m concerned. And what I heard officially backs that up. The 2003 series might be iffy, but the 2008 movie and series is not.

I’m not really sure what you’re saying here; everything SW related made pre-2014 qualifies as Legends. When TCW was made was simply “canon” just like everything else, except Disney decided to keep it as part of the new canon so it now exists in this weird double continuity. Even though Lucas specifically never really cared that much for canonicity and anything he made could prioritize and even overwrite other ideas, everything made was still “canon”, including the Tartakovsky CW series. There are even TCW related spin-off material that is now officially Legends, and the show even had plans to include Darth Revan and have an episode featuring the Yuuzhan Vong.

I’m not saying that TCW’s canonicity is in dispute, just that it has become an official part of two separate continuities, just like ep. 1-6 has. Though I suppose there’s no real “official” canon for Legends as all pre-2014 EU material is officially just non-canon. SW continuity isn’t as well maintained as f.ex. the various DC comics continuities, so Legends is kind of hard to define nowadays.

Lots of interesting observations here. I personally don’t agree with everything he says, especially in the second video (like f.ex. I don’t think TROS makes Vader’s sacrifice pointless), but I do agree with the general broad strokes of it.

What Do We Want From a Star Wars Movie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeUGLUYYYNQ - from the Patrick (H) Willems YouTube channel (20 mins long)

What Do We Want From a Star Wars Movie? (Part II)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PjlM2R88E0 - from the Patrick (H) Willems YouTube channel (31 mins long)

VFX Artists React to THE PREQUELS Bad & Great CGi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbAV4dO8gvM - from the Corridor Crew YouTube channel (15 mins long)

The blurb:
“The Crew reacts to some of their favorite Bad and Great CGi Shots from the Star Wars Prequels!”

(They also did a similar video for the OT.)

In the same vein as Ripplin’s YouTube/Vimeo/etc… Star Wars finds thread which is now in the General Star Wars section, and Fated-Dualist’s The random YouTube / Vimeo etc video finds thread for the Original Trilogy thread for the OT section, I figured it made sense to make one for the post OT movies and TV series as well.

This thread doesn’t really need any “rules” as with the documentary and trailer threads, but a highlighted title would be appreciated as an addition to the video link to make it easier to differentiate a video post from a reply.

An in-progress index of the videos that appear in this thread…

1 • VFX Artists React to THE PREQUELS Bad & Great CGi (Corridor Crew)
2 • What Do We Want From a Star Wars Movie? Part I & II (Patrick (H) Willems)
3 • Rise Of Skywalker Final Battle - 16 Bit Scenes (Mr Sunday Movies)
4 • Rogue One Opening Crawl Star Wars Celebration Europe 2016
5 • Darth Vader’s Dark Humor (EC Henry)
6 • Why I Love Rogue One’s Characters (EC Henry)
7 • Bor Gullet and the Problem with Star Wars Canon (EC Henry)
8 • VHS rip of Behind the Scenes of Star Wars Episode 1 (UK Star Wars fanclub)
9 • The Forgotten Alternate Draft of the STAR WARS Holiday Special (NerdSync)
10 • The Impossibly Bad Star Wars Holiday Special - Caravan Of Garbage (Mr Sunday Movies)
11 • Thumbwars IX playlist (OEDEWORLD)
12 • How Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Should Have Ended (How It Should Have Ended)
13 • The Phantom Menace Pepsi TV Commercial 1999 featuring Jake Lloyd
14 • The Skywalker Legacy - Making The Rise of Skywalker
15 • Learn to Speak Geonosian! (EC Henry)
16 • Drunk Star Wars Script Recital - Episode 1: The Phantom Menace (Bruce Greene)
17 • Darth Maul is a JEDI (color edit)
18 • Everyone ignores Anakin
19 • Lactose intolerant Anakin
20 • Mr. Plinkett’s The Star Wars Awakens Review (2016) (RedLetterMedia)
21 • Duel of The Fates (Medieval Style)
22 • Battle of The Heroes (Medieval Style)
23 • Every Ship in the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy | Star Wars By the Numbers
24 • A Ride Through the Galaxy - Fan Trailer
25 • Honest Trailers - The Mandalorian
26 • Clone Wars Utapau Unfinished Scene Animated - Grievous vs Obi Wan
27 • If The Mandalorian was an Anime
28 • Star Wars Holiday Special Cartoon Segment (1978)
29 • The Mandalorian - “Green Child o’ Mine” (Sweet Child of Mine parody)
30 • Nick Gillard in a talk about his life, career, and lightsabers
31 • Baby Yoda Remembers Order 66
32 • Jyn’s Heroes - Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Meets Kelly’s Heroes
33 • VFX Artists React to THE MANDALORIAN Bad & Great CGi (Corridor Crew)
34 • Stuntmen React To Bad & Great Hollywood Stunts #18, #23 & #29 - The Clone Wars & The Mandalorian (Corridor Crew)
35 • Star Wars Episode 2 Fan Speculation Trailer (2001)
36 • Solo: A Star Wars Story Special Edition (Beckett shot first)
37 • Family Guy: Blue Harvest Extra - Seth MacFarlane interviews George Lucas
38 • I Watched the Battle of Geonosis in 0.25x Speed and Here’s What I Found
39 • Ewan McGregor & Pedro Pascal Talk Storm Troopers, Baby Yoda, & Star Wars Secrets
40 • Animators On Their Famous Creations - Rob Coleman interview about Jar Jar and others
41 • Disney is basically remaking the Thrawn Trilogy (EckhartsLadder)
42 • Emperor Palpatine’s Plan (Robot Chicken)
43 • ‘Star Wars: Episode I - low cost version (Studio 188)
44 • ‘Star Wars: The (Totally) Phantom Menace
45 • Ebenezer Sheev?
46 • Jar Jar Bells
47 • VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGI #58 - The Phantom Menace & Attack of the Clones (Corridor Crew ft. Adam Savage)
48 • 8 Dioramas based on scenes from The Mandalorian season 2 (Boylei Hobby Time)
49 • Bitterasiandude Inc. (YT channel for The Mandalorian actor Paul Sun-Hyung Lee)
50 • The Battle of Naboo Opening Scene Remade in Unreal Engine

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

I’ve been waiting for this!

Man, the BTS footage is…confusing to look at!
I hope that, in the future, they’ll release another video breaking down a single scene or shot and how they achieve it.

Hopefully, as other shows and movies start using it, they’ll probably have to go into more details for the “general” public, especially when they’ll have to start teaching film students about it, etc.

They do illustrate fairly well at 0:33 how it works. From what I’ve gathered the camera is in contact with the computer(s) rendering the game-engine so that it can move around without revealing a 2D image (which happend with a lot of backdrops in old movies), but what I’m still unsure about is how the camera knows where it is located on the real set. I would assume this tech (for now at least) only works with certain digital cameras.

I’ve seen videos where they had one screen doing this, but when you wrap it around a whole set then it becomes complicated. I honestly had never in guessed that they’d used this technology for interiors, I assumed it was only for shots like the one with Mando and the child with the sunset in the background mentioned in the video, or f.ex. in ep. 1 when Mando and Quiil leans down on a ridge and sees the camp down in the valley. It’s really strange to see Herzog’s office just vanish and turn into a white wall (gave me a TNG holodeck vibe).

I just posted this on the Beyond the OT Documentaries thread, but figured it made sense to share it here as well.

The Virtual Production of The Mandalorian, Season One
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUnxzVOs3rk - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (4:40 mins long)

The blurb:
“A behind the scenes look at the groundbreaking virtual production technology used on The Mandalorian, Season One. Over 50 percent of The Mandalorian Season 1 was filmed using this ground-breaking new methodology, eliminating the need for location shoots entirely. Instead, actors in The Mandalorian performed in an immersive and massive 20’ high by 270-degree semicircular LED video wall and ceiling with a 75’-diameter performance space, where the practical set pieces were combined with digital extensions on the screens.”

The Virtual Production of The Mandalorian, Season One
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUnxzVOs3rk - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (4:40 mins long)

The blurb:
“A behind the scenes look at the groundbreaking virtual production technology used on The Mandalorian, Season One. Over 50 percent of The Mandalorian Season 1 was filmed using this ground-breaking new methodology, eliminating the need for location shoots entirely. Instead, actors in The Mandalorian performed in an immersive and massive 20’ high by 270-degree semicircular LED video wall and ceiling with a 75’-diameter performance space, where the practical set pieces were combined with digital extensions on the screens.”

ILM: Behind the Magic of the Star Wars: The Force Awakens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzxrwXHCoU&t - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (4 mins long)

ILM Spotlight Featurettes from Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

ILM: Behind the Magic in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBvi8opWTiQ - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (3 mins long)

Blurb:
“This full-length reel represents a sample of the work created for over 1750 shots by hundreds of artists, scientists, and engineers around the world.”

ILM: Behind the Magic of Grand Moff Tarkin in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlSn50_BePU - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (40 sec long)

Blurb:
“A look at the Oscar Nominated Visual Effects work behind the recreation of Wilhuff Tarkin for Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.”

ILM: Behind the Magic of the Battle of Scarif in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUjhNSDmb9I - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (1 min long)

Blurb:
“A taste of the Oscar Nominated Visual Effects and virtual camera work behind the space battle above Scarif in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.”

ILM Spotlight Featurettes from Star Wars: The Last Jedi

ILM: Behind the Magic of Supreme Leader Snoke in Star Wars: The Last Jedi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Ld3phO1V0 - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (1:40 mins long)

Blurb:
“Take a look behind the magic at the Oscar nominated Visual Effects of Star Wars: The Last Jedi. In this clip we get a closer look at the motion capture performance by Andy Serkis and the incredible work by ILM Artists to bring Snoke to life.”

ILM: Behind the Magic of the Battle of Crait in Star Wars: The Last Jedi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TolPxaXrCfU - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (1 min long)

Blurb:
“Take a look behind the magic at the Oscar nominated Visual Effects of Star Wars: The Last Jedi. In this clip we follow the rebels to Crait for a showdown with the First Order.”

ILM: Behind the Magic of the Mega Star Destroyer’s Hangar Bay in Star Wars: The Last Jedi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ2R0Sr-xes - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (30 sec long)

Blurb:
“Take a look behind the magic at the Oscar nominated Visual Effects of Star Wars: The Last Jedi. In this clip we get a closer look at whats involved in creating the massive hangar set.”

ILM: Behind the Magic of the Dreadnought Bomber Run in Star Wars: The Last Jedi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6FXNz-eYv0 - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (1:20 mins long)

Blurb:
“Take a look behind the magic at the Oscar nominated Visual Effects of Star Wars: The Last Jedi. In this clip we see what kind of damage a single member of the Resistance can inflict on the First Order.”

ILM Spotlight Featurettes from Solo: A Star Wars Story

ILM: Behind the Magic of the Speeder Chase in Solo: A Star Wars Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGebheN-DWw - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (1 min long)

Blurb:
“A glimpse at the opening sequence of Solo: A Star Wars Story and the visual effects used to create Corellia.”

ILM: Behind the Magic of the Train Heist in Solo: A Star Wars Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzwl8iQE4ZQ - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (40 sec long)

Blurb:
“A glimpse behind the magic of Solo: A Star Wars Story and the visual effects of The Train Heist.”

ILM Spotlight: Creating Lando’s Millennium Falcon for Solo: A Star Wars Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1Y5MjxXJsY - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (3 mins long)

Blurb:
“A look at the creation of Lando’s Falcon for Solo: A Star Wars Story.”

ILM Spotlight: Creating L3-37 for Solo: A Star Wars Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkaQQISSMFA - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (2:35 mins long)

Blurb:
“A look at the creation of L3-37 for Solo: A Star Wars Story.”

V.I.N.Cent said:

Interesting how he chose to include the orange snake from the Kenner figure.

Star Wars C-3PO & R2-D2 Smoking PSA 1983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPMu8QP8M9M - from the Neil Bowyer YouTube channel (1 min long)

The blurb:
“A Star Wars–themed public service announcement produced by the United States Department of Health and Human Services aired in 1983 and starred the droids C-3PO and R2-D2, who warned children about the dangers of smoking. The television spot consisted of a skit in which C-3PO finds R2-D2 smoking a cigarette, prompting C-3PO to explain the negative physical effects of smoking and how the two of them should set a good example for Humans.”

To me the funniest part of this video is that this interaction doesn’t really seem that out of character for Artoo and Threepio.