IF text commentary only if it was edited to stay in real time with the film. The way IF writes, we'd be in the middle of Dagobah and he'd still be talking about the probe droid shots.
I have a suspicion my nephews will be giving me the Saga Bluray set for Christmas. I haven't bought it because of the many known issues but I haven't said anything around them about it because they're only in their teens and while I have made them SW fans over the years, they don't have the passion for it that we "vintage" fans do when it comes to perfect color and the pre-SE versions.
So, assuming they get it for me, failing doing my own color correction and remastering which I'm not up to doing (partly for tech reasons but mostly because I could never top the works of Ady and Harmy), what would be the easiest way to adjust the color settings on my TV to compensate for the various tinting issues of the BDs? My set has a few pre-sets for different color settings so I could keep one for "normal" and use one or two of the others for "SW specific" settings.
What I'm thinking of is more general instructions...adjust brightness this direction from center, hue towards red (or green, as appropriate), contrast at XX% relative to brightness...that kind of thing. Exact levels would be something each person would have to determine for themselves based on their individual TVs but at least we'd have a common starting point.
The only computer FX they had then were mostly animated elements - phasers, shields, transporters, generally anything "electrical energy based" - and maybe an LCARS display here and there. There were a couple of holographic map/planet elements used in "The Last Outpost" and "Contagion", but I don't remember too much beyond that. Those would be the only other things that might have to be re-done with modern CG.
Remember, we're talking about 1986 to 1994 here. The Genesis planet animation in Trek II and "The Last Starfighter" were state of the art only a couple of years before, and "T2" and "Jurassic Park" only showed up in 1991 to 1992 and at the time were way beyond a TV show budget and schedule. In general, Trek TV didn't start to use CG on a regular basis until about halfway thru Voyager, around '98 or '99.
Yeah, motion capture helps with speed of movement but the actual images that get overlaid onto that movement still have to interact with the environment correctly. That's the part CG is still trying to perfect.
What you're seeing is the clarity of the original film. TNG was shot on film, FX and all, but edited on standard def 480p video. They're not adding CG detail and FX, they're just getting back what was lost in the first place.
darth_ender said:
But I do feel that at the present, CGI still lacks some of the realism of puppetry (while obviously excelling it in some aspects). That is why I prefer a sort of hybrid, with the puppet forming the basis and the CGI simply improving without replacing.
The word you're looking for is "gravity". A lot of the CG creature work out there doesn't correctly - or at least doesn't completely - address how a body and related surfaces move and react to each other. There are so many subtle things that happen with surface density, material weight, force of impact and substance pliability that both the CG animation programming and animator's manual adjustments have yet to completely account for. Granted, some of it is purposely ignored in the interests of giving an action sequence more impact and "wow" factor but there's plenty more where it's not done simply out of laziness or because the people involved simply don't have a good eye for what it should look like. There are so many things that your brain picks up on a subconscious level as to whether an object is real or not that CG hasn't completely accounted for yet.
There's no reason the memory wipe has to be the equivalent of re-formatting a hard drive. It's probably more like when you root thru your computer every now and then and delete old files and folders you don't need anymore. Your computer still works the same way it did before, it's just missing some information here and there compared to before.
As for Owen not recognizing him - it was over 20 years later. Droids are commonplace and there's only so many models and colors they come in. I saw a car at a repair shop that was the same exact make, model, year and color as a car I got rid of six years ago. When I got closer and looked at some of the details, it wasn't exactly the same but at a glance I thought it was. The last time Owen saw 3PO was when he (3PO) had the rusty body plates. When they meet again at the sandcrawler, 3PO is gold (albeit dirty) but not the rust color he was 20-odd years ago.
Hunt down the "Star Jedi" font set - much better than the "Star Vader" one you used.
Also, I don't know what program you used, but if you want "Revisited" and the DVD logo to blend in a little better, turn on anti-aliasing and maybe add a touch of blur to soften the edges.
Watching the OT on Spike right now, something I always noticed but don't remember seeing come up in the thread (although with almost 1000 pages, it's hard to go back and check for it)...
When Vader chokes Needa then turns to Piett for an update, at the end of the scene when Piett says "Alert all commands - deploy the fleet", for some reason the sound mix on that line sounds like Ben Burtt left the "comm link filter" on - it doesn't sound like Piett is there saying it but saying it over a comm channel.
I never noticed that some were on and some weren't until IF pointed them out but I submit that they don't need to be fixed because they're not mistakes.
We all know that background is a combination of matte paintings. Maybe some of them were painted dark on purpose to indicate that those vents were turned off/not in use.
Fixing mistakes is one thing - homogenizing every detail so that everything is mindlessly consistent is something else.
asterisk8 said:
Good one!
By pop metal I mean a heavy metal song with pop music sensibilities, by "greatest" I mean a phenomenal display of song structure, lyrical content, instrumental and vocal prowess, a song that transcends its genre and era.
The KISS song is a great contender. It definitely transcends its time and genre, and definitely belongs on any Top 10 list, but I don't think it's all that brilliantly composed. Lyrically and structurally it's awfully simplistic, like a nursery rhyme. The solo is pretty uninspired too. But its iconic status is beyond dispute, probably because you can sing along halfway through the first time hearing it.
Being a lifelong KISS fan, I'm somewhat biased, but regarding your technical/musical evaluation of it, I beg to differ. I think the brilliance of it is in its simplicity - you DON'T NEED to listen to it over and over to be able to sing along or perform it yourself. Don't judge the solo section of the song because that's a little unique to each performance, and even more unique depending who played it as the lineup changed over the years - Ace Frehley, Vinnie Vincent, Bruce Kulick, Tommy Thayer.
Besides that, it's just a plain fun song. The band has freely admitted to not trying to write deep, philosophical, multi-layered lyrics - well, except for Music From The Elder, but that's a different discussion. Their first concern with if it's a good song or not is if the audience feels good when it's finished. If they do, then the song is successful - radio play and music awards be damned.
If by "Pop Metal" you mean a heavy metal song that gets played on popular (non-rock/metal) radio stations, then there's only one clear winner.
No inner circle at all, please. Some of us use full labels, not the larger opening CD ones.
How old/new was that plug-in? It's possible that the developer is working on re-breaking the block and will update it at some point.
Judge said:
Why do so many people insist on using Matt Sloan to voice Darth Vader these days? He sounds nothing like JEJ, in my opinion.
Because he's cheaper than JEJ?
doubleofive said:
Notes from FB comments:
For Vaders saber in the cave, just listen to the scene. His sabre is heard igniting but it is already lit in that shot, so you now see it ignite. The hangar shot hasn't had the ceiling replaced yet ( you can still see where the set ends). This will be replaced once i have built and filmed the new hangar miniature.
the blade in the original was not only attached in the wrong place, but also bent. You can see here that the new rotoscoped blade is correct:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/89625
There's also a slight mis-alignment with the astromech unit - when you swap between the pics, the body moves slightly but the feet don't.
So the lizard stops - what's the big deal? It's obviously a real creature, not an effect, so why couldn't it have found something of interest to it on the other side of the tree where we can't see and it stopped to deal with it? It's not like the lizard was purposely trying to get out of Luke's way and suddenly forgot to follow Kersh's directions - it was just going about its business.
You're trying to find proof that the original cuts really do still exist somewhere in LFL's basement. The proof has been there since 2004.
Empire of Dreams.
All the shots of ANH in the sequence where they're talking about the initial release are of the original 1977 print. How do I know? Simple.
It doesn't say "Episode IV A New Hope" on top of the crawl.
That's the first and most obvious. I think they even have a shot of Han shooting first in there and I'm pretty sure it ends with the DS blowing up with NO shockwave ring.
We don't need to figure out IF the original cuts still exist. THEY DO. What we need to focus on is getting Lucas to admit it.
I bought the films as individual discs because they were on sale for total cheaper than the box set. All mine have the same case art as what you've got there and there's nothing on my "Battle" that says it's an extended version. Is that only available in the box set?
So set up the second one and as stuff comes in on the first one, change it over to the new one.
none said:
Here's something completely minor. In the GOUT look above Ben's head. There's a black ellipse sticking down. Seems to have been straightened in the 2004.
No, it's still there, unchanged. If you overlay the two frames, the 04 is just cropped a little tighter all around.
Tatooine matte doesn't need to be replaced, but maybe a subtle cloud layer moving separately from the planet itself would help.
DS explosion is fine. Remember the scale of what's going on. Those "yellow particles" in scale ARE giant flaming chunks of the station.
No, leave the Emperor and Yoda out of ANH. That's something Lucas would do, which is why he crammed Jabba and Fett into the SE in the first place.
There's a very easy way to compare the voice - listen to the way he says "Look at the size of that thing" at the start of the ANH battle. Definitely the same voice.
Apparently, that half-dozen "un-changes" in Purist put it just under their minimum.
Someone could make the argument to LoC/NFR that their mandate of preserving films requires them to restore it and make copies. If they don't, they're not much more than a glorified storage vault.
